I don't even think Mourinho can be unhappy with Ed.
He simply cannot expect us to pay 55m euros for him.
He simply cannot expect us to pay 55m euros for him.
Ivan Perisic
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That is why I can understand why some people have brought up the idea of a director of football, mourinho cannot possibly expect a club like united to spend that kind of money on a player who is peaking now, that kind of money must be an investment. Yes Pogba cost us a world record fee, but we going to see over a decade of service from Pogba if he does have a long career at united. I am sure there is better options out there for that kind of fee
If Inter won't take 35m pounds(40m euro) then look elsewhere, more than a fair price for a 28 year old they paid 16 million euro for 2 seasons ago.
This will take about a week to play out, depending on how Inter meets their FFP obligations. If Inter cannot raise the funds from elsewhere, I don't see them holding to their £45-50m evaluation and we'll get him for our price.
Are Inter not running out of time to meet their FFP requirements at this stage.....tick tock tick tock. Ill be happy with this one if Inter blink first and accept our somewhat reasonable lowball offer instead of the daft price they are quoting.
Why not just offer them the bare minimum of 30 million euros? They have to raise the money by 5 days and it doesn't look like they are selling anyone else.
I think that is what we have done. They are still holding out for more than 40m from the looks of it. There was talks of contract extension for him from Inter this morning, which would be the dream scenario.
Would rather have Demarai Grey.
Let's move on to other targets. Hope we stand firm on this
With Grey I'd say the chances of attitude /psychological issues are 10 times bigger. No thanks.
Have a feeling Perisic will be a transfer we'll look back on with quite some pleasure.
Hope we drop our interest completely and look for someone else.
For 30m, he could have been an option to our other players without costing too much. As I said, let's move on to other players (who are better on top as well)
Starting to look like we might dodge this bullet but it's worrying that we were so keen on him in the first place.
Phew. I'd have about 200 wingers before him.
This is one problem I think many have had with Mourinho, what was our problem last season? the ability to break teams down, and Mourinho is after a hard working defensive winger that is already peaking, not exactly a player that's going to help solve our creative problems. It still boggles my mind we are in the CL, winning a few trophy's and this is the standard of player he was after, surely there is better out there. It does look like we looking elsewhere which is a relief. Transfers like this is why I can understand why many came up with the option of a director of football, to sometimes pull in the reigns of managers wanting to over spend on players who might even at best give us a couple of years at best, the guy is 28 yet never saw many other teams demanding this player
Mourinho's obsession with size and defensive players is troubling, our biggest problem last season was brekaing down teams as you say, and of the 4 targets we have lined up 3 of them are defensive, even the winger choice is more of a workhorse than a creator, it's like he's got Pogba and Mkhitaryan so everyone else has to be grafters to make up for having a couple of flair players.
And what flair players are available?
Martial, Mkhi and Pogba.
Dembele, Mbappe, Lemar, Bernardeschi, Pulisic, Sanchez and Bernardo was as well but we just stood by as City snapped him up.
Inter dont need € 30 mln.
They need a capital gain of € 30 mln..
In the case of Perisic they must sell him for, at least, € 41 mln to reach the break-even
Anyway it seems they are ready to sell other players (Caprari, Banega, Jovetic and Ranoacchia)
Being Available was the question. Most of them are not. Only Bernardeschi may be realistic also i heard bernardeschi is plan b to perisic. Mahrez may be available.
Reguarding Silva we would still need another player with him who adds balance of workrate and work horse nature and provides width in attack instead of cutting inside.
I'm really amazed by this too, he is so average. He wouldn't improve us significantly IMHO.
There's nothing to say Mourinho isn't after creative players as well.
If I am honest we have them already here, Mkhi and martial can easily play has the right and left of our attacking play, there is pogba also, think our entire backbone needs strengthening in terms of the numbers beyond herrera and pogba. Its just comical the price for him, yeah is he any better than mkhi and martial? hell no. The grafters are our back 4 and CM, not our attacking players. That's why teams like real madrid have had the pay off from 2009-13 onwards, they buy common sense quality world class players and this won them the CL 3 times out of 4 seasons. Pogba is a mix of a grafter and creative players, but he needs the magic from the right left and centre of our team, Pogba should never be the linch pin of our creative stuff, only part of it
I was not totally disputing that, but signing perisic and even entertaining the idea of that price even the lowered price is still comical. Pogba while over priced he is a long term investment, perisic is neither the former or the latter, and is not going to solve our creative problems. Which is why I can see why a director football at times is needed, when we see this kind of transfer activity the club needs to tell mourinho, are we evolving our football? or still the same level has last season?
All of them are available if you put the right price down, none of the clubs they are at can turn down the kind of money United has to offer.
Bernardo has great workrate, if you play 4-3-3 properly your fullbacks provide the width on the overlap, you don't need a touchline hugger.
Would be a fantastic addition on the left. Offers something different from our other attackers in that he can actually cross the ball. Wand of a left foot and great set pieces too.
Will Monaco sell him when they are selling so many players already.
I never understood it, I said when he was first linked that he is a nothing player and I stand by that, a kick and run winger with a good engine, nothing special to raise the standard of our attacking play.
The problem is I don't think Jose trusts Martial, and with Mkhitaryan he's struggled to find his feet in the league, most of his best games were in the EL with only a 3 or 4 game spell of Christmas in the PL where he looked like he could hack the nature of the league. I agree on Madrid and Barca are the same, even Bayern have stacked up offensively.
I have no idea. Perhaps not. Arsenal are supposedly interested, according to the Telegraph/Daily Mail.
Well 90 m is an insane amount of money for dembele, its completely unrealistic when he chose dortmund to develop just last year. Also Silva is gone because Pep called him for his philosophy and sold the dream better, so no point now discussing it.
Also one touchline hugger and work horse in the squad is a must, to provide balance and options and unpredictability. 4141 or 343 or 352 is another system a touch line hugger can be used, 433 wont be the fix system for all games.
He's quality, I think he was Monaco's unsung hero last season as much of the attention was on Mbappe, Bernardo and the comeback of Falcao, but he was a consistent threat out left with good movement and link play with Mendy and a great delivery of his own, he actually molds inside forward and traditional wingplay really well.
Then just use Ashley Young for the odd game where you need that limited touchline role, it's a workhorse job and he can still do that.
Mourinho needs to start evolving our game, this kind of signing does not say to me yeah we playing to kill but same old football has last season. We are in the CL, our hand has never been stronger in such a long time, and Ivan Perisic is the best he can come up with. The logical reason's PPL have given on why he wants him, he does a job in what mourinho wants tactically, that scares me for not the right reasons and we already have those players, why does he want yet another workhorse? Many have said fellaini does a job for mourinho in what he wants, does not mean its benefited united on a weekly basis. The only tactic mourinho needs to solve is our creative play looking like a championship winning team, not a 6th place team that will park the bus in any kind of tough game. I will keep saying this, we have had problems hurting sides and becoming the school bully kings again, these kind of signings are not going to fill and solve that problem. I am happy we looking to add numbers to our CM position, but we need quality on the creative side of things, and we have CL football to sell to any player and trophy's to back it up
We did. But attacking wide he's not that great anymore. I see perisic as his replacement only.
I think 90m for Dembele would pay off in the long run. We would have 2 out of France's top 3 attacking prospects and that right wing is craving for some creativity and Dembele would slot right in.
Now this is a player I think who would improve us easily.
It'll never happen, but he's a dream signing of mine. We'd be getting a better Inter player and a better option in midfield than Matic.
Then why not sign him giving 20 m just last season. He is good, but yet not that good that he will own this league and score goals galore for 90 m.
That is the kind of signing we need, someone who can do something out of the ordinary. The engine room and our wingbacks should be able to take care of our defensive side, its our front 3 that need to be destroying the play. I still think Mourinho goes over kill with the defensive play, where wingers should be defensive players in his eyes, if Mourinho wants to win big again he needs the flair or we are going to find it very hard to score goals again
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