Besides that, no one finds strange to hope a club like United play 4-3-3 formation with a playmaker and a winger as wing-forwards?Mkhi and Perisic in he same front 3These feckers have conversion rates that make Rooney look good.
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Exactly, it's suggestive of a defensive style. Big teams have their wide men tuck in and full backs provide the width and play making, no exceptions.Besides that, no one finds strange to hope a club like United play 4-3-3 formation with a playmaker and a winger as wing-forwards?
I may be wrong but it seems people think Jose will play defensive cause he's signing Perišić?
Perišić is a winger who 'hugs' the touchline but also he tucks in lots of times and it's not that he doesn't ever leave the touchline.
Also defense or defensive certainly isn't the first word which pops to my mind thinking about him. It would probably be the last.
Perišić is a winger who 'hugs' the touchline but also he tucks in lots of times and it's not that he doesn't ever leave the touchline.
Also defense or defensive certainly isn't the first word which pops to my mind thinking about him. It would probably be the last.
I thought Perišić made more sense to provide width if we were going 4-4-2 with Griezmann, making Rashford and Martial more upfront options than on the leftwing.
We'll probably play 4-2-3-1 for which he should be good. Of course with Griezman it would be a lot better but maybe along with him and Morata we'll buying another attacking player. And who knows maybe we won't buy Perisic after all.
The papers here are full of news about the deal practically being done for few weeks now but I'm sure they'll just backtrack on it once it will be evident we won't buy him at all.
Can't figure out why people think we would be buying Griezmann to keep playing 4-2-3-1, really. Are we a counter-attacking team now?
Good creative wing player
Why do people keep mentioning 4231, We will not bench herrera and use him as a squad option. Also If We have to get the best goal scoring return out of martial and rashford and mkh we need to use them suiting their strenghts , which 4231 will not provide for lack of balance
Who says we won't play 4-2-3-1 with Pogba behind a striker?
Also we played about 3 different formations last year and I'm sure we'll play more than one formation this year also.
As for Mickhi, 4-2-3-1 is best for him as in that formation he should be the one behind the striker so I'm not sure how it doesn't suit his strength.
So both Pogba and Mkhi will play behind the striker?
Not in the same time of course. I think that much was obvious.
Bernadashi has obviously more potential but from what I remember is very one footed? If we are looking at realistic targets I personally think Mahrez/Costa would be our best options for now, not too sold on Perisic.
Both Costa & Mahrez have questionable mentality. I doubt Jose would want either of them near his team.
Why more potential? We have martial and rashford for the potential part
Mahrez has like one good season in his career. Costa is average and it's debatable he is better than perisic
Bernadashi seems to be more of a wow player. Likes to shoot from long range. Scores, but provides chances too.
We can play this system for few games , but this wont be our main system and definitely not in big games against top sides. We Played many systems last year including 4231 because of mix and match between rest recupration inuries and form and suitability of certain players because we were struggling to score with an unbalanced attack and midfeild. So We will have a more clearer system next season, yet it will be flexible to play different systems including 4231 in some games.
Both Pogba and Mkh can not be playing no 10 together, And also Mkh and mata can always cuts inside and roam in that area with the fullback providing width, so they will end up behind the striker only even if they are on wings.
What is more important that they must be further up the pitch and freed up of tracking back 100 m's to support the full backs defensively on every ocassion and given up free role in attack to get the best out of them which only 3 man midfeild will allow them.
He's also an upgrade on Rashford, Lingard, Mata and Young in the wide areas, can only be a good thing
Bernardeschi would come cheaper which in terms of a team player buy(which Perisic is no doubt is) would instantly make him a better buy.
Bernadashi seems to be more of a wow player. Likes to shoot from long range. Scores, but provides chances too.
footballitalia made that report up it seems.
Well, that is crap then.
I am glad we cooling our interest perisic, for that price he's got to improve our starting 11, which I don't think he is an upgrade. Yes he's better than young, lingard etc, but that bar is not exactly the gold standard
I don't think Mourinho would sign Mahrez in a million years.
Thinking about it, what do you think our subs to Perisic if the deal didn't get completed, considering Willian is out of reach ? We know in the striker that Belotti is the replacement of Morata, and in the midfield the options are Matic, Dier and Fabinho but we don't know any wingers getting linked to us except Perisic.
That's the issue. We want to add a proper winger. People wanted talent players who would prefer drifting inside. As far as proper winger being concerned (both offensively: stretch play, provide crossing, combine with full back; can play on both wing; & defensively: cover well for the full back), Perisic appears to be one of the best in this rare breed, where wing forward is the fashion & younger generations try to emulate Ronaldo/ Messi & can't play winger properly.
Regarding the formation, people show more love for player & become irrational. Even in 4-2-3-1, Herrera can play with Pogba & another defensive central midfielder in a rational way. Remember the Everton game at home? The game ended up with Herrera playing some weird narrowed RB, when in defensive phase he was still a midfielder. He even stepped up & delivered some serious crosses just fine
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Perisic------------------Micki
------------Pogba------CM--------Herrera
--LB--------Lindelof----Bailly-------------Valencia
Some kind of diamond with Perisic & Valencia to provide width. LB should play narrow. If Perisic switch wing, then the opposite with Pogba play wider... The CM position is interesting. Now seeing the formation this way, someone like Dier does enable maximum flexibility in the tactics. Fabinho isn't too bad neither with him can play as RB. With Fabinho, I think there is still room to add another CM. I prefer that to be left our youngster like Pereira, Tuanzebe (even as makeshift)
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Bernadashi seems to be more of a wow player. Likes to shoot from long range. Scores, but provides chances too.
What this excludes is Perisic doesn't take set pieces, so all his chances created are from open play whereas Bernardeschi created few from set pieces.
Great analysis and I agree with what you said. The squad has been crying for a real wide winger who provides some width to the team instead of all these number 10 drifting inside to the midfield leading to overcrowding of the centre of the field against any parked buses but once we get linked to one people immediately refused him and saying he's not quality, really strange.
Perisic may not be a big name but tactically he will provide something this squad is deprived of.
Watching Inter v AC Milan (2016/17) on BT sport3, Perisic had a cracking first half.
10:19KEY EVENT
United 'blow' for Perisic
Corriere dello Sport reports that Ivan Perisic has been ‘taken off the market’ with manager Luciano Spalletti desperate to keep him.
Perisic expects to join United but the main stumbling block is the fee - United and Inter are said to be around £15m apart in valuation.
United 'blow' for Perisic
Corriere dello Sport reports that Ivan Perisic has been ‘taken off the market’ with manager Luciano Spalletti desperate to keep him.
Perisic expects to join United but the main stumbling block is the fee - United and Inter are said to be around £15m apart in valuation.
Hes better then perisic
Well I really hope the Bernardeschi rumours are true, I prefer him anyway
Maybe these types of wingers are yesterdays men perhaps? There must be a reason that the best teams in the world, look for inside forwards and see success with this approach? I feel having 1 inside forward and 1 out and out winger would be a good combo. Also many are lamenting that United don't have a winger to stretch play, yet their tears are motivated by the fact that Martial, Rashford, Lingard and Miki were so poor in front of goal. If we had a Hazard or Sanchez playing LW but scoring many goals, most would not care that we don't have a traditional winger who stretches play. If Martial was as good as year one, no one would be talking about Perisic and his "tactical suitabilty" to the system.
10:19KEY EVENT
United 'blow' for Perisic
Corriere dello Sport reports that Ivan Perisic has been ‘taken off the market’ with manager Luciano Spalletti desperate to keep him.
Perisic expects to join United but the main stumbling block is the fee - United and Inter are said to be around £15m apart in valuation.
That's fair enough. If Inter want us to give them a bid which is big enough for them to buy Bernardeschi then we might as well buy Bernardeschi ourselves. I hope they enjoy their 28 year old pissed off player with no resale value at all.
Seems to be trend now. United to fund the purchase of Mbappe for Real Madrid, Bernadeschi or AdM for Inter, Sandro/Bakayoko for Chelsea while we get their rejects. Maybe we should just go after their targets instead.
I don't mind us buying Perisic but the price must be fair. 50m for him is crazy. Bernardeschi is one of Italy's finest young talents. He's tall, he's technically gifted, he can play across the entire forward line (AML. AMR, AMC), he's got an eye for goal and he's hardworking. Unlike Inter, Fiorentina would probably love to see us sign him as that mean he won't end up at Juventus. For me this deal is a no brainer.
100% agree.
Yeah poor Madrid and Chelsea, they won't be able to buy players if we don't pay them good money.
10:19KEY EVENT
United 'blow' for Perisic
Corriere dello Sport reports that Ivan Perisic has been ‘taken off the market’ with manager Luciano Spalletti desperate to keep him.
Perisic expects to join United but the main stumbling block is the fee - United and Inter are said to be around £15m apart in valuation.
Good news.
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