I still cant wrap my head around us giving Lingard 100k a week. He is making more than players like Isco.
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I still cant wrap my head around us giving Lingard 100k a week. He is making more than players like Isco.
I am sure many believe those players were Abramovich's signings
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I think perisic is more of a supplement signing,to have a player when martial or rashford are off the boil.that's why we are not willing to pay more than 30m for him..i think we will still get a star signing for the RW,once the mbappe drama is settled and bale is sent packing for the next shiny toy..
Makes it almost impossible to shift him even if Jose did'nt want him.
IvON or IvOFF? 
IvON or IvOFF?
Perisicouldhappen
No you're right. It's clearly because people think he's average (which he's not imo).
He gives us width down the left side and will be quite useful. Maybe we need to revisit last season where we dropped points against awful sides. Having Perisic on the LW creating chances will help a lot.
I think his profile is roughly what we need on the left wing for next season. As you note, he gives us genuine width on the left which was really missing last year.
Based on how we played last year at times, and the profile of who we have been linked with, I see us playing a 4-1-4-1 when we are out of possession and a 4-3-3 when we are attacking. The right 'winger' will come inwards to form a triangle with the right sided central midfielder and an attacking right full back, while the left back will sit and shift inwards along with the centre backs to cover the field.
The left winger will be quite isolated in this system and be expected to keep the width and work hard running the flank and putting crosses in.
The fact that he knows and likes (and is trusted by) Mourinho is a massive plus. Most of the players we have been credibly linked with have this in common.
He's well overpriced for what he offers. He's bang average in terms of chances created per 90 minutes played. Aged 28, will have no resale value. Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rooney, Zaha, and even the cursed Januzaj all offer slightly better chances created per 90 minutes played. Andreas Pereira is equal with him. Instead, we need to buy younger players like Ousmane Dembélé, Bernardo Silva, or Thomas Lemar. Buy players who are doing well but have the potential to up a gear after a year or two playing here. If we must spend £50m then buy James Rodríguez.
He's well overpriced for what he offers. He's bang average in terms of chances created per 90 minutes played. Aged 28, will have no resale value. Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rooney, Zaha, and even the cursed Januzaj all offer slightly better chances created per 90 minutes played. Andreas Pereira is equal with him. Instead, we need to buy younger players like Ousmane Dembélé, Bernardo Silva, or Thomas Lemar. Buy players who are doing well but have the potential to up a gear after a year or two playing here. If we must spend £50m then buy James Rodríguez.
A number of these figures look wrong and, upon closer inspection, are wrong.
Which figures are wrong? The chances created is Squawka, minutes played is based on modified Whoscored figures. I discard internationals and friendlies. Who scored don't give minutes played for most cup competitions so I have to add them. I could reasonably claim whoscored raw figures are wrong.
Meanwhile we'll wait here (till the end of time) for you to post your alternative chances created per 90 minutes stat.
PS: Shot accuracy and Duels won are both % numbers. Chances created is an absolute number but Squawka don't tell us how many minutes played they are based on.
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If it's true that we're likely to sign Morata and Fabinho then it's what happens here that will define our window i.e. if we sign Perisic we still wont be in a better position to challenge.
He's a very limited player with loose technique and little attacking guile; he wouldn't improve us at all and therefore our attack wouldn't improve either. We'd be going nowhere fast with him.
He's a very limited player with loose technique and little attacking guile; he wouldn't improve us at all and therefore our attack wouldn't improve either. We'd be going nowhere fast with him.
That's odd. For example:
Your table (with data drawn from Squawka) gives figures of: Pogba (1.36), B.Silva (2.22), Lemar (1.80), Coutinho (2.92), Jesus (2.97), which are obviously quite different and not uniformly higher or lower. I don't know what would cause this discrepancy.
Edit: Have you included chances created in non-friendly international and domestic cup competitions in your calculations?
Edit again: You also have Gabriel Jesus with just 337 minutes of football to his name, which is surely incorrect.
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I trust Mou on this. If he does believe that Perisic is what he needs to improve our team, I am all for it. We have also employed quite good scouts recently, so combine that with Mou's experience and our money, we should do well this summer.
I'd love to trust Mourinho and I know next to nothing about this player so I'm not going to pass judgment on perisic but wtf was his track record in his last few windows for chelsea about? That expensive German rightback with the funky name (something that sounds like babapangang?) who never played and was sent away, salah who never played, cuadrado who barely played and shipped out and I must have missed out a few other weird ones like that... it was shocking.
Infra-red. OK I concede you are right: Squawka only include league matches. I will modify any stats I post in future to show that. I'll even delete and repost the stats above if more than one person demands. In future, when I mix whoscored with Squawka, I'll limit whoscored stats to league matches only.
Fixed: Chances created per 90 minutes played (in League matches only)
Fixed: Chances created per 90 minutes played (in League matches only)
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To be fair in 2014 he bought Matic, Costa, Fabregas and sold Luiz for a record fee for a defender. Which at the time looked like magical business in 2015.
Fair enough.
Just to add, signing a left winger who hugs the touchline will stretch the play and allow other players such as Mata and Mkhi more space to work their magic in the middle. Perisic might not turn in the numbers but if his signing leads to other players upping their numbers, utd will be in a good position.
Very good point, if it improves other players productivity then it could just be a master stroke!
I just feel like we need a world class attacker too, one that can strike fear, such a shame Griez didn't happen.
I just can't get behind this signing. I'm sure he's capable of doing a job, but that was our problem last season - too many players 'capable of doing a job' and little more.
Martial on the left last season wasn't even capeable of doing a job.
Spot on
We need a game changer, someone who can conjure a goal out of thin air, like Sanchez or Hazard. Too many mediocre or potentially world class players in our squad
Perisic offers genuine quality.
Maybe you need to accept that we cant sign a superstar for the left hand side.
Please, do tell us who are available then, or better yet, send Woody and Mourinho an e-mail, I am sure they haven't even considered the idea yet.
I wish someone at our club had thought of the simple yet efficient idea of simply signing a worldie game changer, after all the market is ripe with those.
Douglas Costa is available and he's a left footed winger, why can't we sign him?
He is better than Perisic and would most likely cost less.
I would not describe Perisic as being genuine quality.
Bayern fans will tell you he's been poor for a while now. He is not close to Hazard or Sanchez level anyway.
Yet you think Costa is? I doubt your scouting skills
Please do give up
Their actually comparable in ability. I really think people are delusional of how good Douglas Costa is, Perisic is probably more consistent and versatile as well, as well as being better defensively and physically.
Id prefer willian over both and people are way too obsessed with age in our transfers, they cant expect all the team to be 26 and younger and us to win the league... Can they?
Thank you for that prompt reply.
You are welcome, it took as long as that shot of Salahs took hitting the sideline.
Player mishits a shot one time = bad player. Gotcha.
These stats are meaningless for managers. All Mourinho is concerned with is whether a particular player can fill a specific role that he envisages in terms of the tactics he wants to employ.
Yes that one shot was why Chelsea sent him packing.
He's well overpriced for what he offers. He's bang average in terms of chances created per 90 minutes played. Aged 28, will have no resale value. Mata, Mkhitaryan, Rooney, Zaha, and even the cursed Januzaj all offer slightly better chances created per 90 minutes played. Andreas Pereira is equal with him. Instead, we need to buy younger players like Ousmane Dembélé, Bernardo Silva, or Thomas Lemar. Buy players who are doing well but have the potential to up a gear after a year or two playing here. If we must spend £50m then buy James Rodríguez.
So when they show inconsistent form we buy the next young players that year yeah? You need to give martial rashford and all chance to develop. Signing a lemar would probably mean martial has no chance. Whereas perisic would be a better option for martial to gradually develop
Looks like we're being linked (or mentioned) for Federico Bernardeschi. Anybody know the deal with this kid?
Mkhi and Perisic in he same front 3 These feckers have conversion rates that make Rooney look good. Tbh it's wise to never get excited about wingers Mou signs, he is blind to quality wide players.
These feckers have conversion rates that make Rooney look good. Tbh it's wise to never get excited about wingers Mou signs, he is blind to quality wide players.- Status