I get that feeling too.
Hopefully I'm wrong, and he'll kick on like hell next season. If he steps up, he could be a difference maker for us - we could have precisely that sort of X-factor player we need.
Time will tell.
Ivan Perisic
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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I get that feeling too.
Hopefully I'm wrong, and he'll kick on like hell next season. If he steps up, he could be a difference maker for us - we could have precisely that sort of X-factor player we need.
Time will tell.
Perisic for 40 or Ronaldo for 150 
Perisic for 40 or Ronaldo for 150
Rather have Perisic, firstly he is exactly what we need and will be more effective than Martial/Lingard/Rashford and Mickhi put together.
so we should only focus on his first good season and brush this last season under the table?
Let's have 'em all duke it out for the LW spot, mainly Perisic and Martial.First, sign Perisic till officially confirmed. Then, all of our attackers can train well and perform in games impressively, to impress Mourinho enough to be given games, the Boss does reward players with games for efforts.
Mind that, one player won't play all games throughout the season, there will be rotations, off forms, injuries, suspensions, personal reasons to warrant absence, and tactical reasons, Mourinho will change accordingly.
Also, once Perisic arrives, he'll have to adapt to Jose system and the tougher physical EPL, so the other players may have higher chance to stamp that position as their own before then.
We're aiming to win the EPL and seriously challenges all competitions next season, safer to bet it on an experienced player who have the football qualities and traits that can slot into the team easily and its system giving it its necessary balance, Ivan Perisic, well in theory anyway.
Martial will play games, continue to improve (his workrate does improve under Mourinho) and contribute with goals and assists (impressive stats last seasons despite the inconsistencies and playing lesser games), he's that good and it'll be weird if Mourinho won't use that talent and nurture it.
Our attacking players last season EPL:
Ivan Perisic last season Serie A:
Total number of games played may also have significant influences to those stats mind.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/8/main/...-utd-would-add-another-dual-threat-to-the-old
Wouldn't mind seeing a front 3 of Perisic, Morata and Dembele.
First, sign Perisic till officially confirmed. Then, all of our attackers can train well and perform in games impressively, to impress Mourinho enough to be given games, the Boss does reward players with games for efforts.
Mind that, one player won't play all games throughout the season, there will be rotations, off forms, injuries, suspensions, personal reasons to warrant absence, and tactical reasons, Mourinho will change accordingly.
Also, once Perisic arrives, he'll have to adapt to Jose system and the tougher physical EPL, so the other players may have higher chance to stamp that position as their own before then.
We're aiming to win the EPL and seriously challenges all competitions next season, safer to bet it on an experienced player who have the football qualities and traits that can slot into the team easily and its system giving it its necessary balance, Ivan Perisic, well in theory anyway.
Martial will play games, continue to improve (his workrate does improve under Mourinho) and contribute with goals and assists (impressive stats last seasons despite the inconsistencies and playing lesser games), he's that good and it'll be weird if Mourinho won't use that talent and nurture it.
Rooney plays utter muck and is still one of our best creators.
Looking at that table above, and a combined 25 goals from those 6 attacking players is utterly pathetic.
They should all be ashamed of themselves.
They should all be ashamed of themselves.
Lingard is the worst of the lot, and yet there are plenty who actually argue he's a good player to have in the team. He's worse than Rooney, and it's unanimously accepted that Rooney shouldn't be anywhere near the team.
It's all well and good people saying Perisic isn't at the level we need e.g. Sanchez, Hazard etc. But sadly Perisic will still be a big step up on dross like Rooney and Lingard, and if Martial and Mkhitaryan fail to significantly improve next season, we'll be glad to have Perisic.
He's always looked brilliant when i've watched him for Croatia. I think he'd actually be a solid addition for United. Okay, the fee is a bit ridiculous but I reckon he'd be like Young/Valencia. Both were thought of as wtf signings before you got them and then both had excellent first seasons.
Agreed mate.
Last season we had far too many squad players being used as bonafide starters.
We are never going to get back to where we were if The Lingard and Fellaini type players are not replaced in our starting 11 with better quality players.
The fact is that there is a massive gap between what we need and just being a step above Rooney.
Well its better than what we have on the left.
Douglas Costa and Lucas Moura can't defend like Perisic and they're not Mourinho's type of player.
Felipe Anderson as i said here before, after his father got jailed in 2015 he's not the same.
And i think he was playing more as wing-back this season.
Martial can very well be back to his normal this season and the problem in the lw is solved.
Felipe Anderson as i said here before, after his father got jailed in 2015 he's not the same.
And i think he was playing more as wing-back this season.
Martial can very well be back to his normal this season and the problem in the lw is solved.
How so? I thought we needed another match winner, other than our CF e.g. a Alexis, Griezmann, Hazard, Bale guys who have been known to drag their teams to victories. its not about shiny toy or other rebuttal, its their quality, hence why they play for top teams or are moving to top sides, sides who want to win league titles
Yep, I hate all our existing players too. Whole new XI every season please!
Perisic for 40 or Ronaldo for 150
Gosh I hope something materializes just so Inter can shove their ridiculous hardballing where the sun don't shine, stuck without enough incoming transfer fees for the FFP.
My only issue with Perisic is that I don't get excited to see both Perisic and the current Morata together ''for now''. Both aren't world class or proven a winner and we lack this aspect last season. If it's Perisic and Griezmann or Morata and Sanchez then I can get excited with our attacking options.
Problem is we aren't getting either and Perisic simply isn't good enough to elevate us similarly like Griezmann or Sanchez would. We need that sort of player for our attack though. The next best thing is either getting players, who are better than Perisic or players as talented as Griezmann and Sanchez.
A player like Sanchez is exactly what we need and I am sure that if Mourinho thought the signing was possible he'd be all over it. What I want to see happening though is to see United picking up players like Hazard/Bale before they get their big moves. Before they were superstars their potential was apparent to everyone which is why we fought for them back in the day, and lost, but now we are less frugal and more willing to get in bed with agents so picking up players on the crusp of greatness shouldn't be difficult. We have done it with Bailly and Lindeloff why can't we do it with wide forwards?
Wait you're willing to spend 50m on a player and then see if he cuts it or not? Look I understand the point that it's not my money, that he might fit into Mou's plans but the money being branded out for an average player who is definitely not United quality is crazy.
Would you be willing to spend 300m to bring back Ronnie to this club? Everyone knows he is the worlds best player and is proven in the league. He is definitely fit into our system but at the end of the day he is not worth spending 300m.
I think we need to approach conversations like this with a bit of humility and respect for the manager's judgement because he has earned it over the course of his career. How can you say he is DEFINITELY (emphasis mine) not United quality when the United manager seems desperate to have him in the United team and we currently lack natural wingers performing well? I'm sorry but that sounds a bit odd. I am not saying Jose has not and cannot make player purchase errors. He has and he certainly can. I am also not saying we can't analyse, discuss and even dispute player options just because the manager wants him. Far from that. No manager is infallible. I am only saying shouldn't we give the manager at least a benefit of doubt after all, we almost always have limited information when it comes to transfers and even players (there is more to a player and a purchase than what we see on a pitch)?
Specifically about United quality. What is this United quality? Isn't it subjective? Who defines it? How do you know a player a United manager wants is definitely not United quality? Haven't we had players we thought were average who turned out to be anything but average? Carrick is a classic example. Countless fans tagged him as average when Sir Alex went for him but look how he turned out.
I prefer that those who think a player like Perisic is average say something like, 'I think the guy is bang average but let's see how he turns out since the manager seems determined to fit him in his squad. Maybe he's seeing something I'm not.' That's a more humble approach to the subject.
That is very true. Look how important Darren Fletcher was for the team for a while and few would argue he's world class.
Bescuse with Carrick and Fletcher they had potential. They were pretty young. You can't exactly call Perisic young plus he just had his most productive season as a footballer at the age of 28 cause he finally found his level in the Serie A. And btw he wasn't exactly tearing up the league either.
Also there is the added doubt if he could adjust to the premier league. If you're buying a winger just for the sake of buying one, there definitely are better options.
Also there is the added doubt if he could adjust to the premier league. If you're buying a winger just for the sake of buying one, there definitely are better options.
I agree. This was just in response to those suggesting that Perisic is exactly what the team needs in attack, so that we can become genuine challengers. Not nearly enough. Dybala could be good. he'll bag 20+ per season and is very skillful and conjur something out of nothing. He has also shown he can handle delivering for a top tier team.
Not me, Jose. It's his risk and his neck on the line. I just think Perisic will prove to be a very good addition to the squad. Let's see how it goes.
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United refusing to budge on Perisic
United have been linked with Inter Milan winger Ivan Perisic for a while now but the two clubs can’t agree on a fee.
Milan want £44m but United aren’t willing to pay that.
The Mirror is reporting that Mourinho is refusing to budge on their £26m offer.
The two clubs are at a standstill with their negotiations and United are reluctant to up their offer in the knowledge Inter must meet Financial Fair Play targets by July 1.
United refusing to budge on Perisic
United have been linked with Inter Milan winger Ivan Perisic for a while now but the two clubs can’t agree on a fee.
Milan want £44m but United aren’t willing to pay that.
The Mirror is reporting that Mourinho is refusing to budge on their £26m offer.
The two clubs are at a standstill with their negotiations and United are reluctant to up their offer in the knowledge Inter must meet Financial Fair Play targets by July 1.
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United refusing to budge on Perisic
United have been linked with Inter Milan winger Ivan Perisic for a while now but the two clubs can’t agree on a fee.
Milan want £44m but United aren’t willing to pay that.
The Mirror is reporting that Mourinho is refusing to budge on their £26m offer.
The two clubs are at a standstill with their negotiations and United are reluctant to up their offer in the knowledge Inter must meet Financial Fair Play targets by July 1.
They will agree on offer eventually, they are forced to, to be accurate. Keep stalling and don't raise the offer and it will be done by the end of June.
we should raise the fee to £1 every day
That will torture them.
if they complain we should reduce it to 0.75p
Just to be clear is selling players the only way they can meet the FFP fine?
Madrid's council may buy their training ground for €800m, but it's a long shot.
Yes.
Madrid's?
Then I think we have a chance for 30m. There's 10 days left and it's unlikely they will sell anyone else.
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