Gotta give you thatI have no idea yet but I am calling it now.
Ivan Perisic
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This signing doesn't make as much sense anymore since we're not signing Griezmann.
What does one have to do with the other?
I fail to see where you are going with this, if anyone of our prospective signings are going to benefit from Perisic's playing style it is Morata.
I think he would complement Griezmann well. So would Morata to be fair, as @SwansonsTache said.
Banega is very close to Sevilla for € 9/10 mln, DiMarzio and his agent confirmed..
Inter need € 15-20 mln to reach the break-even now so they might accept lower offers for Perisic
Inter need € 15-20 mln to reach the break-even now so they might accept lower offers for Perisic
Or sell Brozovic.
Or they might sell one of their reserves for a few million and keep Perisic.
He is. I am a critic of Ivan but he is worth 30 million come on. 30 million is just bog standard nowadays. Pickford, Bolasie cost that amount. Its what you pay for decent players nowadays. Perisic is decent. not great, not special, but at least decent.
He's worth exactly 29.9 million. Not a penny more.
Thats what we should offer them and a Snickers for being right twats
LMAO these pool fans are always so eager to win on paper, the only way they can win anything.
Of course Salah's stats is gonna looks ridiculous on paper considering the fact that his team finished 2nd in Serie A with 87 points while scoring 90 goals. Heck, even Fazio has ridiculous stats there as a CB yet everyone knows how limited he is when he played for Spurs.
Considering his age, his position, how many years will we get out of him? 26 million at best is the price we should stick to. Remember we are in the CL, we have won a couple of trophy's including a European trophy which has given us the keys to go straight into the CL group stages with Mourinho at the helm, our hand has never been stronger probably since the ferguson days we could still do much better than perisic. If inter need the money, we are in an even stronger position where they will crack, if they won't we should take our business else where and look for something much better
I'm not a Liverpool fan.
Meh, the same stuff was posted about Bernardo Silva and how perfect he was for United. These articles should come out when a player signs a contract and the deal is done.
Liverpool signed a 24 year old Salah for 35 million pound. If we sign Perisic for over 40 million pound we might as well give up.
And here in lies the problem. Manchester United the so called worlds biggest club boasting of being the worlds richest club are looking to strengthen there already disappointing squad full of mainly descent players with another decent player.
indeed but its better than spending top player money on decent players. I agree with your point though
This guys knows his stuff, really good journo.
City and Liverpool are already after strengthening their front line (which was already vastly superior to ours to begin with). We were dire at times, trying to break teams down last season and that was with the availability of Ibra, who is now unavailable. Signing Morata is a must and we are praying on the fact he will hit the ground running, considering we don't have Ibra as a back up when shit hits the fan.
I think it's fair to say, we'll be lucky if Morata gets similar numbers to Ibra's last season in the premier league. Do we really think that bringing in Morata and Perisic will bring us on par with the top 4 teams in terms of quality up front? Some posters here make it sound like Perisic will have a Hazard/De Bruyne type of impact at our club, which is what we need for definite but I seriously doubt he will.
I think it's fair to say, we'll be lucky if Morata gets similar numbers to Ibra's last season in the premier league. Do we really think that bringing in Morata and Perisic will bring us on par with the top 4 teams in terms of quality up front? Some posters here make it sound like Perisic will have a Hazard/De Bruyne type of impact at our club, which is what we need for definite but I seriously doubt he will.
Yeah, probably the best football journalist from written media in our language(s)
No he won't, at least not individually. He's not on that level. He's a 'system player' - he'd be coming in to stretch the play and thereby try and provide more space for the likes of Pogba, Mkhitaryan and Mata to operate in. Having a more dynamic #9 should also help in that regard.
I do think a goalscoring wide player for the right flank would be a welcome addition (I assume Griezmann was meant to be that player - not sure if we'll have a backup - Bernardeschi would be an excellent choice).
Griezmann hasnt played on the right wing in I dont know how long. He was to play the false 9 or the #10 role for us.
In terms of Perisic, if you just want a player to stretch the play, then there are plenty of options you can get for cheaper.
Who exactly? I can't think of anyone cheaper that would offer the same pace, defensive contribution, workhorse attitude and willingness to keep the width.
As seen with Willian Jose likes one of those wingers, just like he likes one offensive FB and one defensive.
Is that what "stretching the play" all means?
You've been overly critical of Perisic in this thread no stop, I am genuinely curious to which alternatives you would like us to pursue.
He is a system player and will fit Mourinho's system. Willian isn't all that when you consider his attributes, but still he worked great in a Mourinho system.
Mkhi and Martial are both superior talent-wise to Perisic, how did that work out last season?
I've not watched him on a consistent basis but from what I have seen the criticism of him looks harsh as to me he looks a good player with good quality. Added to what I've seen if Jose is so keen on him I'd be fairly optimistic that he will do well.
People probably have problem with this signing, since we don't have players like Diego Costa and Hazard. So signing someone like William is rather pointless, when we need genuine consistent quality there.
That was supposed to be Griez, sadly that didn't happen.
No one else on that level available really.
Genuine question - can you mention some of the so called "plenty of options"?
James and Nainggolan can play as #10 and are both better than Perisic. Mkhitaryan could play on the left or right. Martial, Rashford, Lingard and Mata for the other position. Coupled with a new striker, I'd rather see that than Perisic.
I don't anyone had called him a bad player at all. I've watched him a good number of times and all I can conclude is that he is decent. He's a player at his peak that never did anything of note to consider him a top 4 player in the PL. Being one of the better players in a poor Inter side that finished 7th in a poorer league isn't exactly something that a team like us should be aspiring to get, if we want to contend next season.
It's down to personal opinions but I suspect people are buying to him because José wants him, apparently. He wanted Ben Haim, Boularouz(sp), Sidwell, Del Horno, Adebayor et al too. I doubt people finished the season thinking "we need to get that Perisic bloke or someone of his ilk" at the end of last season.
If we sign him, oh well. Until then some of us can hope we are interested in players that are of superior quality because this exactly what the team needs, not a squad of just 'ok' players.
Already discussed but he would indeed compliment more to Morata. Just my feeling but I think we were after both Morata and Griezmann with Perisic providing width on the left. Btw. that Griezmann - Morata combo would solve most of our attacking issues. I also think it did shake us probably a little bit in a sense that we thought we will get them both.
As for Perisic, he is one of the players identified by Jose who can give him what he wants on LW. But, essentially don't see him so dependent on other transfers.
Perisic will most likely be bought for his abillity to stretch play, keep the width and do so with pace, how would signing another #10 when we already have two of them solve that?
Perisic's profile is what will interest us a lot too. He's more mature and experienced than Martial, so it gives us time to bring him through. I doubt anybody at Old Trafford is under the illusion that Perisic is better than Martial could be, but there's more reliability in a player like him right now.
The hope is probably that Martial has relegated him to the bench within a season or two and that we haven't overpaid for what will eventually be a squad player.
The hope is probably that Martial has relegated him to the bench within a season or two and that we haven't overpaid for what will eventually be a squad player.
Both claims are false
On defensive FBs
Shaw speaking to MUTV said:
On winger qualities, he has played CR, Di Maria, Hazard, Schurrle, Salah, and Mata all on the wrong foot and most not fitting the profile you described. Willian, even when starting on the right always drifted centrally while Ivanovic as RB provided the width. Mourinho is more inclined to have his wingers drift centrally while the FB provides width and expects his wingers to track the overlapping fullbacks. None of his previous wingers is really similar to Perisic
Mourinho in 2013 said:
Not sure why people are so obsessed with stretching play, when we have Valencia and potentially a new left-back coming in. Ronaldo is regularly drifting towards the centre, as is Bale, because Marcelo and Carvajal are providing the width. It's not like Mata and Mkhitaryan are constantly crowding the centre and reducing the space there. Mkhitaryan played on the right most of the games for Dortmund in his final season IIRC. Again, I'd rather get genuine quality that actually improves us over a decent player, who won't help as much.
Martial will improve us more than anybody on the market if he can find his form consistently.
Which is something I am hoping for.
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