If Pepe wasn't in such bad blood with Mourinho, we've might had!
Ivan Perisic
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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Bit of a difference in 28 and 34/36, yeah?
This is exactly what we should do.
Costa is 'strong, fast, determined..' and all that as well. It's just that people don't mention it so much because he's got actual technical ability as a selling point as well.
See? He missed, that only proves that he is left footed
Pretty sure that he is ambidextrous enough not to give a damn. There is an example of Brehme (or more recently Cazorla) who even took penalties and free kicks with different foot depending on a situation
Well, there's also the fact that Perisic seems to have had a much better season than Costa. I don't think they're all that similar anyway. Costa's defensive contribution is quite poor.
He's a much less talented player, which is what matters. He doesn't have anywhere near the technical ability that Costa has.
I don't see why workrate is such an important factor for an attacker. We dominate the ball in most matches. We need players who can break down packed defences; not workhorses.
Then Why is Bayern letting him go?
Also about your second point , We do need both. A workhorse Wide player provides width which open up spaces and result in Direct counter attacking play with width, Like the Fergie way.
I think you're oversimplifying a bit. Obviously actual level of performance matters a lot, not just talent.
And clearly it's a plus when your wingers can defend nowadays, especially in the PL, with fullbacks getting more and more attack-minded. It's not their primary job, of course, but you can't dismiss it altogether.
I'm not really trying to make a case for Perisic here. I just don't like the idea that Costa is a much superior signing (if superior at all).
You would think wouldn't you
I have no idea why Bayern don't want him as I'm not Ancelotti; I'd imagine already having Ribery, Robben and Coman (who would all be first choice here) has something to do with it mind.
We had great wing play under Fergie because he had great wingers like Kanchelskis, Giggs, Beckham, Ronaldo, Nani et al. Signing a limited workhorse won't improve our attacking play.
Some of you native English speaker could create a Perisic song based on the old Spider Man theme:
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It's not anywhere near as important an attribute as a players attacking ability though; it's a bonus and nothing more.
The vast majority of matches we play involve our opponents sitting deep and trying to squeeze the space. His workrate will mean nothing then. We need technically elite players and he certainly isn't one.
I am sure most 28yr old players who have been average for the better part of their career would really want to play for a club like United.
Perišić, Perišić
Does whatever Perišić does
Can he go down the wing
Yes he can, he's a winger
Look ouut, here come that Perišić lad
Does whatever Perišić does
Can he go down the wing
Yes he can, he's a winger
Look ouut, here come that Perišić lad
He contributes more in attack than Costa does though. At least last season he did.
He reminds me of Tony Valencia when he was a winger. Explosive, direct but predictable. I hope we do not get this guy, especially for 44m. Costa is a good shout over him or I would prefer the risky jamez. Age is not really a factor for me. 28 means 3 plus years of service and in football terms that's fine.
I was being sarcastic with the yt comment....but I'm gonna hold you to your post...right now I'll take anyone on the left who will produce in any way possible....Martial/Rashford/Young provide feck all at that position.
I don't know who this guy is and my entire knowledge base is off YouTube but one thing that struck me about him in the clips was that he seems acutely aware of where his team mates are, even at break neck speed (he looks pretty quick), rather than hitting into a dangerous area all the time (which can be good) he seems to want to pick out specific players. Make a nice change compared to what we've had.
People worried about him cutting in ala Young due to being right footed, he actually looks very happy to use his left. Gotta say, after reading all the comments I was feeling a little underwhelmed and although YouTube doesn't give us everything, it has made me cautiously optimistic about him.
People worried about him cutting in ala Young due to being right footed, he actually looks very happy to use his left. Gotta say, after reading all the comments I was feeling a little underwhelmed and although YouTube doesn't give us everything, it has made me cautiously optimistic about him.
Shocked that people have not heard of him before.
Do they not watch the Euros/World Cups?
Do they not watch the Euros/World Cups?
I do not feel like I am being hyperbolic when I say bringing back Zaha would make more sense than signing Perisic.
People seem to forget there are at least two sides to a transfer. Just because you think Utd can afford Insigne or Costa or whoever else doesn't mean they want to come or that their clubs want to sell.
Back to Perisic, I can see why many fans are less than enamoured of this signing. Utd have always had great wingers like Giggs and Ronaldo, but let's consider what Perisic could bring to our team.
He may not be the best at any singular trait but he is definitely well above average in several. He is pacy, strong, direct, ambipedal, can get past his man, does his fair share of defensive work, plays both left and right wing and perhaps second striker too.
This set of traits considered as a package would fit well into Mourinho's set up. I don't think Perisic is the Hazard type player people wish for but I see similar (if not as high a level) attributes to a Kanchelskis.
Personally I would be happy if Perisic to United was really true. Our left wing is full of players who have to cut in and are predictable. Perisic adds another dimension to our attack. Those complaining about his conversion rate are considering him in a silo, this guy will create for our strikers.
Back to Perisic, I can see why many fans are less than enamoured of this signing. Utd have always had great wingers like Giggs and Ronaldo, but let's consider what Perisic could bring to our team.
He may not be the best at any singular trait but he is definitely well above average in several. He is pacy, strong, direct, ambipedal, can get past his man, does his fair share of defensive work, plays both left and right wing and perhaps second striker too.
This set of traits considered as a package would fit well into Mourinho's set up. I don't think Perisic is the Hazard type player people wish for but I see similar (if not as high a level) attributes to a Kanchelskis.
Personally I would be happy if Perisic to United was really true. Our left wing is full of players who have to cut in and are predictable. Perisic adds another dimension to our attack. Those complaining about his conversion rate are considering him in a silo, this guy will create for our strikers.
and our B2B mids should also benefit from his crosses
Yeah much talented player and unlocks defense, Douglas costa have never scored more than 6 league goals and this is him playing in shit Ukraine league playing for power house of a team. Then playing for Bayern he has scored 4 goals in each seasons.
On the other hand Perisic scored 11, 7, 5, 10 league goals in the last 4 seasons, last 2 seasons he played for probably the most disjointed team in the top 4 leagues.
Even if you look at assists Perisic wins hands down.
Douglas Costa is playing for the most dominant team in Germany, played for the most dominant team in Ukraine and his numbers are poor. On the other hand Perisic plays for 5th or 6th best team in Italy and his numbers are much better.
Sorry but why do you think it is already a "fact" that UTD will spend 50m+ on Perisic?
The latest rumours are that Utd is refusing to overpay and Perisic has told Inter that he wants to leave them to join us. The fee quoted is 35+ million pounds.
http://www.teamtalk.com/news/man-utds-e40m-perisic-transfer-moves-closer-report
The fee sounds reasonable, taking into account how transfer fees have gone crazy.
Sometimes I get the feeling that even if we were linked to Neymar, Messi, Mbappe and Ronaldo, there'd be people going "meh" and asking for fecking Lukaku and Zaha instead...
This lad's quick, has an exceptional knack of knowing where his teammates are even on a break, is two-footed, scores, assists and also tracks back to help out defensively. He'd add a number of elements our left wing has lacked for years. Yet, people seem to be quibbling about his not being the best of the best. You'd be forgiven for thinking we had world-beaters in that position to read some of the posts. And yet, reality is we've been playing some real NPAs there last season. Martial, Rashford and Young combined probably added less for us than he did for an Inter team that was pretty much cack.
This lad's quick, has an exceptional knack of knowing where his teammates are even on a break, is two-footed, scores, assists and also tracks back to help out defensively. He'd add a number of elements our left wing has lacked for years. Yet, people seem to be quibbling about his not being the best of the best. You'd be forgiven for thinking we had world-beaters in that position to read some of the posts. And yet, reality is we've been playing some real NPAs there last season. Martial, Rashford and Young combined probably added less for us than he did for an Inter team that was pretty much cack.
PSG to the recue. Only €55 m and Perisic is all yours
This. I'm basing most of my opinion on the last Euros where he was by far Croatia's best player.
Good post. I think we still lack proper wingers who can provide width as most like to cut-in. In terms of chances created, we have been good but not great. The lack of wide-men resulted in a very narrow play this season with the Midfield providing creativity not wingers/FBs and only had Rashford who could stretch the defence with his pace. Perisic would be a welcome signing as we need someone like him to get past a compact backline.
I also think it'll help Pogba who was not able to push up because of wingers looking to cut-in. With a defensive minded LB, a holding mid (Fabinho) and a runner on the left to provide width (Perisic) - Pogba will have acres of space and time to influence the game better as he is someone who likes to dally while on the ball.
Ancelotti plays with inverted wingers depending on FBs to provide width unlike Pep who had his wingers doing that. D. Costa is a pacey direct-running winger who also has a mean shot but is not played in the right position and has been underwhelming. I think in other set-ups he'll do well.
Can't believe you guys aren't looking forward to those games where we line up with Perisic and Lingard as our wingers.
Sarcasm ignored. I am looking forward to those games when they are against a league team in the relegation zone sandwiched between two late stage Champions League games!
Amen. Preferrably the SF second leg and the Final.
This guy is an out and out winger isn't he?
Why do i keep reading on here that people think we will switch to a back 3 next year and play Perisic as a wing back, doesn't seem to make much sense. Has he ever played as a wing back does anyone know?
Why do i keep reading on here that people think we will switch to a back 3 next year and play Perisic as a wing back, doesn't seem to make much sense. Has he ever played as a wing back does anyone know?
Classic case of conclusion reached by caf logic. He stays wide + works defensively= Similar to Valencia= Bought to play wing back. Some of them even said he'll be our next left-back..
Moses managed it perfectly well
It talks about Inter Milan wanting him.
In that case the manager was Conte, who has a history playing with wing-backs. So if Perisic was going to Chelsea, I might entertain these theories, although even then I'm not convinced given his qualities going forward.
Just because someone shows defensive workrate doesn't mean he's a defender. Don't know much Moses scoring record but Perisic is a winger with a goal in him, which is why he'll definitely play as a winger under Mourinho imo.
1. Left back was a big problem for us last season and we are not really being linked to anyone who would solve that.
2. We played with wing backs a few times in the second half of last season.
3. After signing Lindelof we have a lot of CBs who are suited to a back 3.
4. Perisic has not played wing back afaik but his physical attributes and defensive stats suggest he would do well there.
Personally I think it might happen but, like every hypothetical team being posted atm, it's just guess work.
It seems to me like a case of adding 2+2 and coming up with 47, probably more out of hope than reason for those who want us to play 352.
For LB we have Shaw and Blind, if we're not being linked to left backs it's probably because Jose is happy with our options there. He might be hoping Shaw kicks on.
I would say our wide options last season were a bigger problem than LB, we have no actual wingers who can give us genuine width and the ability to stretch teams. So if we are singing a left winger it's most likely to solve that problem as opposed to switching formations and moving everyone around into different positions and converting a career winger into a wing back.
Yeah might well be. Seems far fetched to me to sign a winger and try to convert him into a wing back. Surely we would just sign an actual wing back if we were switching formations.
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