If anyone has the heart to watch, check out twitter. Not going to share here. The market were full of people when IDF raided, hundreds are killed.
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It's really easy to understand how extreme groups thrive in these environments. If this is your life, how can you not be filled with hate and wish for revenge at any cost?
Because Reddit is overwhelmingly American people who are mostly pro Israel and can downvote everyone who isn’t.
feck Israel and the US, the shit on the news today of that massacre is horrific.
Insane way to report a mass killing
Doesn't seem like anything "claims" about it from the videos.Insane way to report a mass killing
It's a slaughter. Indiscriminate mass murder.
Fitting for the anniversary of Normandy
Ah, so that's what they built it for. No surprises tbh
Also hearing the latest massacre involved using an aid truck as disguise? Again not surprising tactics, considering its the terrorist army after all.
Some of the Palestinian victims from the massacre yesterday
Gaza’s death toll surpasses 37,000
Israeli attacks in Gaza have killed 283 people and injured 814 in the past 24 hours alone, according to Gaza’s health ministry.
The vast majority of those casualties — 274 killed and 698 injured — were caused by Israeli’s operation in Nuseirat, the ministry said. Israeli forces freed four captives during the operation.
The latest casualties in Gaza bring the total toll there since October 7 to 37,084 killed and 84,494 injured, according to the ministry.
Israeli attacks in Gaza have killed 283 people and injured 814 in the past 24 hours alone, according to Gaza’s health ministry.
The vast majority of those casualties — 274 killed and 698 injured — were caused by Israeli’s operation in Nuseirat, the ministry said. Israeli forces freed four captives during the operation.
The latest casualties in Gaza bring the total toll there since October 7 to 37,084 killed and 84,494 injured, according to the ministry.
But the thing is that's not what Ramy Abdu actually said.
Of course internally they have no qualms about it but externally it's not a good look and they need to justify it no matter how twisted it is.
To whom do they need to justify it? They rightly don't expect any real consequences for these actions.
If fact, since there were actual hostages rescued in this instance, this massacre would be even more justified in their (and POTUS) eyes in comparison to the run of the mill school and hospital bombings.
They obviously care about PR that's why they have a propaganda wing (hasbara). Among the political elite they have the immunity due to the US but on the ground they are losing.
It's disgusting what has happened to the Palestinians. But to play devil's advocate here, should Israel just have forgotten about the hostages that they saved?
On the one hand, it is probably the only way to save them.
On the other hand, they've brutally murdered 100s of people who have had nothing to with all this.
Was there another way to deal with this?
On the one hand, it is probably the only way to save them.
On the other hand, they've brutally murdered 100s of people who have had nothing to with all this.
Was there another way to deal with this?
Yeah, there’s probably a better way to rescue hostages than to mow down hundreds of civilians in the process
Yes, a hostage deal and an end to the massacres which they have refused countless times in the last 8 months. Most Israelis who actually care about the hostages have asked for an end to the war and still do as far as I know.
The most danger these hostages had faced in the last 8 months was from Israeli bombs and during their rescue.
No sane person would authorize an operation to save 4 people if that implied killing 200+ innocent bystanders.
I know these guys are a minority in Israel but good to see there is a glimpse of some sort of counter view
In this massacre, he was even ahead of that chronology, by posting obfuscation before people even started reacting to the massacre
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Couldn't find anything here, and it's a pretty basic/banal point, but the success of the hostage rescue should alleviate the only meaningful pressure for ceasefire (the part of Israeli domestic opinion which cares about hostages primarily). This proves that the IDF can rescue hostages, not just bomb them, and means that the aims of cleansing Gaza and rescuing the remaining hostages are no longer incompatible. It's been proven many times over this last year that US public opinion, the rest of the world's governments, and the rest of the world's public opinion do not matter. And the US and Israeli governments, who do matter, are not just on the same page on this, they are now conducting lethal operations together in Gaza.
The only thing Gaza has to rely on to survive from US-Israel in any recognisable form is the dwindling weapons stockpiles of Hamas, and if Hezbollah can create enough diversion in the North. Maybe they can try killing hostages, though that will probably just intensify the attack.
The only thing Gaza has to rely on to survive from US-Israel in any recognisable form is the dwindling weapons stockpiles of Hamas, and if Hezbollah can create enough diversion in the North. Maybe they can try killing hostages, though that will probably just intensify the attack.
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Noa Argamani confirmed to an Israeli channel what Hamas published a while ago about two other hostages with her being killed because of an Israeli missile.
According to Hamas, three other hostages were also killed during the massacre and bombing yesterday and one of them was an American.
According to Hamas, three other hostages were also killed during the massacre and bombing yesterday and one of them was an American.
But they never cared much about this pressure anyway and the hostages' families remain behind a deal.
There's no survival for Gaza, that I pretty much agree with. "Thining the population to a minimum" as the Israelis want through ethnic cleansing and genocide is happening. How quickly they do it doesn't matter in the end.
Ganz is out of the Israeli government.
Gadi Eisenkoft has also apparently resigned.
An interesting quote from Barak Ravid's piece on Axios.
"With Gantz's withdrawal, Netanyahu's government will be dominated even more by the ultranationalist ministers Itamar Ben Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich, who will likely increase pressure on the prime minister to take an even more hardline approach to the war in Gaza, take steps against the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and escalate attacks against Hezbollah in Lebanon."
https://www.axios.com/2024/06/09/israel-gantz-leave-netanyahu-government
Won't change jack shit.
One of the worst politicians to ever grace the stage here, in respect to winning/losing voters.
He was thought of THE alternative to Bibi back in October or November. now hardly anyone thinks highly of him.
Is that because he's viewed as too pragmatic at a time when most Israelis want a more hardline approach, or something else ?
So exactly what everyone has been concerned would happen this whole time is now more likely to happen. Perfect
I want to know that too from those who know better. But, my guess is that Ganz doesn’t seem to be able to prove that he “wants” power and that he really wants to be on top of the pyramid. He projects weakness it seems.
I feel for you, bro. What a terrible government you have, and what terrible options you have. Same like here…