Jerusalem Post is reporting that she is a peace activist who has worked with an organization called Hands of Peace. If that’s the case then it’s not impossible that she has made friends among Palestinians in the territories. Of course, the Post is using her capture to argue for the fruitlessness of such activism.
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Jerusalem Post is reporting that she is a peace activist who has worked with an organization called Hands of Peace. If that’s the case then it’s not impossible that she has made friends among Palestinians in the territories. Of course, the Post is using her capture to argue for the fruitlessness of such activism.
Aren't those girls meant to be sniper spotters?
Oh. I see. I always wonder how good a friend I can ever be with someone from the Palestinian territores, with all the history and present taken into context. sure I can think that they are are great person and they can think the same about me, but with everything taken into account... it's such a weird friendship to be had.
The girls who were kiddnapped/taken hostage/what have you?
their role is to observe the border 24/7. they are meant to spot every person or thing that gets close to the border.
If you mean the Hands of Peace thing, i've no idea.
There's nothing in this thread about the video released yesterday.
It was released due to the desperation of the families. I don't believe anyone pushed them.
It makes no sense if you take a step back and think in broad terms.
Are we supposed to think what, that the United States are the only country able to see through the UN's lies? Or that European countries know the report is a lie but are playing along with it and antisemitically refunding UNRWA because they want to fund the destruction of Israel?
Which Israeli sources do you consider not be a propaganda?
I don't know all israeli news sources.
I know, it's about following videos.
There has to be coordination with the government before releasing it, no? Surely, they weren't the ones responsible for the editing and mistranslation.
And those you encountered so far were all propaganda (meaning all those that do not align with your view). How unlucky.
You should google about that organization and learn who they are and what they want.
"the law in its majestic equality prevents rich and poor alike from sleeping under bidiges"
The hearings with college presidents is again McCarthy ism in a new jacket. Absolutely despicable they are attacked as much as some of them are even when their schools are trying to find a balance between freedom of speech, keeping open lines of communication and not ostracizing any particular group of fellow human beings. At least Omar raised some valid questions with UCLA why the response to violence was so slow.
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they happily ostracized one group, not realising that it would never be enough for the fundamentalists who run the country.
This just goes back to the widely held misperception that international organizations exist on behalf of giving smaller states more rights, when in fact they have historically been little more than ways for larger member states to advance their foreign policy preferences, while giving smaller states the false impression they are participating in a democratic process. The ICC, as we're finding out from the blowback, is no different in this regard.
Correct. I think, for Europeans in particular, having this image of an international somewhat-democratic order is important. Which is why the CDU saying this outright surprised me.
And your interpretation of the truth is disingenuous. Some Arabs may have sold their land. And what of the 750,000 people thrown off their land? Or are they a footnote in your version of history?
It's a horrible video and I had to grit my teeth to go through, not just once, but many times to try to coin what the militant said despite the bad audio.
What I understood was "Here are the (female) captives". He used the word "Sabia" or "Sabaya", depending on how you pronounce it, which also means captivating or enchanting. That's what I personally got from it. Pregnant in arabic is "Hamila", the verb being "Ahmal" which means "to carry". No matter how many times I listened to the audio, I just couldn't find any hint to a "get her pregnant". It also doesn't make any sense to me, if they're hostages to be freed at some point, why would you do something that will be broadcasted the second the hostage is out of danger?
That's the problem. I felt so sorry for her and truly hope that she and the remaining hostages survive this awful ordeal.
You have to post here more often. Please. We need your voice.
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I wonder where people got that impression from...
They were misled into believing something that was never true. Ulimately, its the superpowers and their close allies who still call the shots, not IOs.
I am not surprised at all.
It's the German equivalent to "ICC is meant for African dictators and thugs like Putin". Not us, the
Repulsive piece of shit.
The new Paul Bremer.
I have my doubts, but if it were to happen it would probably be someone like Brett McGurk.
I guess you refer to Nakba, that obviously happend. It is a historical fact and a result of war which Arab nations started and lost.
Are you aware that even more Mizahrim Jews were ethnically cleansed from Arab countries, where they lived for centuries? Many times on 24 hour notice leaving all possesions behind.
Yes, of course. I'm simply saying that the families weren't pushed to release that video.
The Nakba happened in 1948 as a result of Zionists ethnically cleansing Palestine to settle there and establish the state of Israel. It is not merely ‘a result of war,’ anymore than the Holocaust was merely a result of war. To reduce it this is highly insulting and shows what disregard you have for Palestinians.
Jews being displaced from Arab countries does not give you Carte Blanche to do the same to Palestinians.
The crimes committed against Jews were primarily done by Europeans, yet the Palestinians have been made to pay for them.
Have some shame and stop trying to justify your historical and current actions with whataboutism.
And we wonder why people don't trust in politicians.
Ooh yes, for example Hebron 29, those bloody Europeans.
Consider this to be my last reaction to you. Feel free to react but please don’t insult and threaten me again. Mods will delete it anyway (for your own good). I wish I made a screen shot of your already deleted rant.
I found this video interesting. It further reinforces how many different groups of people have been in and out of the area over the past couple of millennia.
Some Israeli media outlet claimed that "Sabia" means "(female) slave". it's so fecking stupid to lie about something that is so easily shown to be false.
Bu media outlets in general profit from the fact that the headlines of articles stick in the memory of the majority of people, not the truth and not complicated perspectives about anything.
re: getting hostages pregnant, it doesn't make sense from the angle you mentioned, but you won't expect people to act sensibly in situtions like these.
I don't believe that there are female hostages in these situations that are not at minimum touched, harrased,and sometimes raped, in any place on earth.
Islam/Judaism/whichever religion will not stand for it,
but people are not saints, and they are angry. females are easy targets. I wouldn't be surprised if their reproductive systetms don't work because of the conditions in which they are held. won't be surprised to have learned that fetuses didn't survive, if indeed they have been created.
I suspect that both the male and female people inside those tunnels have been deeply harrased in many ways.
not everything has to go down the "oh but the Israeli propaganda machine always lies, I call bollox" road.
Not specified towards you but generally in this thread. It's tiresome.
I also don't want to imgagine what Arab boys, teenagers, women in israeli prisons go through in places that the CCTTV cameras don't cover.
Can anyone on this forum confidently say that if they and their family lived like this, for years and years, with no end in sight, they wouldn’t be extremist?
Ghoulish...
Thanks for going through the ordeal so we can have a better picture of what was said. A horrifying ordeal that these women are suffering for almost 8 months. That doesn't condone the manipulation of the translation by the Israelis
It is well made video, thanks for posting it. To cover basically all history in 30 minutes I guess it did a very good job. Of course each side would likely find some nuances or details to add/change/disagree (e.g. I would mention St. Remo conference as a very important event) but in big picture I think it is accurate.
Stop it. You either don't know what it means at all, in which case you should be more careful and researched before making such allusions, or you do know and you chose to highlight it out of sinister motives.
It means something very specific, contextual and that is historically well documented.
At which point did I threaten you?If anyone dares to challenge your version of events or has any view contrary to the Jewish victim narrative you get defensive.
Zios are gonna Zio I guess.
Thank you for sharing.
No one can say that because it’s not possible.
When there is no diplomatic or peaceful solution in sight and your oppressors are openly and brazenly saying they will never grant you freedom, statehood or equal rights then what choice do you realistically have?
either resist or roll over and die. Not one of us would choose the latter.