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Iker Quesadillas said:
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Should be easy to avoid. Like in the caf when you write feck and cnut, they only need to automatically change the words

Genocide - change to - right to defend themselves
Ethnic cleansing - change to - tiding up
Occupied territories - change to - promised land
 
Revan said:
What is the fair solution for you then? 'Jews leaving from where they came from?' Nope, it ain't gonna happen.
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That's one hell of a straw man argument if I ever saw one. My position on this conflict is very clear and I dare you to find anything I've written that remotely advocates the tripe you've just posted. How about a two state solution based on the 1967 borders? You know, in accordance to the UN resolutions and international law?

You're having an absolute mare.
 
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Perhaps not the smartest question, but why is the UK getting involved ?
 


"There has been no significant change in the volume of humanitarian supplies entering Gaza or improved access to the north. Since the beginning of April, an average of 181 aid trucks have crossed into Gaza per day via the Karem Abu Salem (Kerem Shalom) and Rafah land crossings. This remains well below the operational capacity of both border crossings and the target of 500 trucks per day".
 
20% of mainland, or "normative", Israel is made up of Palestinian/Arabic population. Then we have Gaza and the West Bank, where, overall, if you add the population numbers together we derive a 50:50 (or thereabouts) divide between Israeli and Palestinian (Palestinian-Israeli; Jewish-Palestinian and the many not-so-simple histories and groups therein).

What can Israel expect, or hope, to gain by pursuing its path of WB colonization by Gazan isolation? To colonize the WB? It won't work. You can absolutely take the land away and mass Palestinian populations into denser areas but the neighboring Arab states are not going to accept more refugee camps (millions already with either a distant or direct claim to that land spread out across the diaspora).

Israel has internal conflicts it cannot resolve without a two-state solution. It will always come back to that fact. I ask because there are Israelis here and I'd like an ad hoc reply or two as to what Israelis within Israel think about the situation (long-term).
 
Idxomer said:
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Palestinians are outlaws in the original sense of the word. Outside the [protections of] law, meaning you can do whatever you want to them without repercussions. Israel is a genuinely savage country.
 


Never forget they killed a 6-year-old surrounded by her murdered family members asking for help and the paramedics who went to get her out.
 
berbatrick said:
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Hitting similar notes but singing different songs. The US establishment (do not defund certain endeavors) and various denominations. Remove the most excessive rhetoric and it's a speech from Biden's State Department.
 
I am hoping that the UNRWA stuff by the West was all just for show/distraction and didn't have any real effect on the ground with funding funnelling in through other means. Otherwise it looks to be a coordinated effort by the West to cause further suffering to Gazans.
 
Dr. StrangeHate said:
I am hoping that the UNRWA stuff by the West was all just for show/distraction and didn't have any real effect on the ground with funding funnelling in through other means. Otherwise it looks to be a coordinated effort by the West to cause further suffering to Gazans.
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Unfortunately it has had an effect, as has the continuous targeting of humanitarian and aid workers, with a few charities/NGOs stopping their aid as they're unable to protect their staff. It's all a concerted effort by the Israeli regime.

They've also intentionally targeted civil staff and police in Gaza who administer the aid as they know without the organisation and logistics these folks provide it'll lead to more chaos and ruin.
 
Demonstrators Across the World Disrupt Cities in Protest of Gaza Genocide


Demonstrators across every inhabited continent took to the streets to block major corridors and spots of economic activity on Monday, April 15, in a coordinated economic disruption to protest Israel’s genocide in Gaza.
The “A15” protests were planned across 50 cities, including 21 in the U.S., encompassing 17 countries in total. Protesters blocked shipping ports and railroads, targeted funders of arms manufacturers like Israel’s Elbit Systems, blocked factories for arms manufacturers directly, and linked arms across major roads, including highways and airport entrances.
In the U.S., demonstrations were held in places like New York City, Detroit, Houston, Seattle, Minneapolis-St. Paul, and Portland, Oregon. Across the world, protests took place in London, Johannesburg, Seoul, Ho Chi Minh, Montreal, Athens, Vancouver, Mexico City, Melbourne, and more.

The goal of the actions was to “cause maximum economic impact” in order to fight for the liberation of Palestine as international leaders continue to back and fund Israel’s genocide of Gaza in its seventh month. Israel’s campaign of bombardment and starvation has killed at least 34,000 Palestinians, with thousands more missing under the rubble, in mass graves or disappeared into Israel’s prisons.
The protest efforts were vast and often included multiple actions even within a city. At least dozens — if not hundreds — of protesters were arrested for their participation.
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https://truthout.org/articles/demon...d-disrupt-cities-in-protest-of-gaza-genocide/
 
The Corinthian said:

Hamas domed a probable pedo.
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It goes way beyond this topic but why are so many people willing to share their most depraved tendencies to the world? Did he really want to be known as "The kids' shoes sniffer"?
 
JPRouve said:
It goes way beyond this topic but why are so many people willing to share their most depraved tendencies to the world? Did he really want to be known as "The kids' shoes sniffer"?
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According to @Amir That's not what the caption says.
 
maniak said:
It's still weird as feck smelling the sock of your daughter.
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It's a least one of those weird things that should keep to yourself but to some extent I can empathize. I remember someone doing it with his wife's bras.
 


“I was thinking about this young boy who was about 10 years old, who was walking down the street with his sister, probably four or five years old, and a missile struck right next to them and blew out his brains from the left side of the skull. He came into me kind of taking his last breaths and it was this dystopian image in my mind because his sister was right next to him screaming. Shrapnel sheared her right buttock off her body and it was like this horror movie that I was living in real life. That sticks with me because it was so representative of the trauma inflicted upon this population, especially the pediatric population.”

“I took care of many children whose parents were killed in front of their eyes," said Dr. Subeh. "Faisal and his brother Adam were in their home, came out to the hallway in their home and found their pregnant mother and father in the hallway. And the Israeli soldiers shot them, shot the parents in front of their eyes, and then proceeded to shoot Faisal in the abdomen, shearing his intestines and his urinary bladder. I mention this this story because it's unfathomable that this would happen in this day and age, but also because I think it's important for folks to see this extra layer of pain and suffering inflicted on the surviving family members.”
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Amir said:
Shouldn't believe every lie you read. No soldier by that name was killed. And more importantly:

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Fair - have deleted. It's weird as Tim Anderson (you'd think) would be a credible person on twitter.
 


The diplomatic cables detail pressure being applied to members of the Security Council, including Malta, the rotating president of the council this month. Ecuador in particular is being asked to lobby Malta and other nations, including France, to oppose U.N. recognition.

“We therefore urge you not to support any potential Security Council resolution recommending the admission of ‘Palestine’ as a U.N. member state, should such a resolution be presented to the Security Council for a decision in the coming days and weeks.”

The cable says, “Ecuador would not want to appear isolated (alone with the United States) in its rejection of a ‘Palestine’ resolution (particularly at a time when the most UN member states are criticizing Ecuador over its April 5 incursion into Mexico’s embassy in Quito).” Ecuador finds itself in an escalating conflict with Mexico over its decision to arrest the former Ecuadorian vice president inside the Mexican Embassy.
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