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Nasrallah is a cunning one and enjoying the show right now. I personally think that he'd rather stay out of it, but still has to answer to Khamenei, one way or another. If the order comes from above, he'll have no choice but to enter the war.
I don't believe that Iran will let Hezbollah go in unless there's a real chance to inflict a major blow to Israel. It all depends on how well the IDF are faring right now in Gaza, and the fact that we have absolutely no impartial informations about the military situation to rely on, makes it difficult to make any prediction.
In my opinion, Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas are banking an a nasty ground war in Gaza, with A LOT of civilian casualties, and the ensuing international pressure to get a cease-fire that will allow Israel to claim victory without achieving its primary goal, the complete destruction of Hamas, which let's be honest, was never attainable anyway. The prestige of Tsahal and the Israeli intelligence services have been badly damaged on 10/7. The manner Israel is conducting this war is contributing to even make it even worse. The Abraham Accords are now shelved for a long while, Netanyahu and his government are fecked and Palestine is on the map once again. People on both sides are thirsting for blood. That's already a big victory in itself for them. Screw the thousand (+) Israelis and ten of thousands (+) of Palestinians who died in the process.
Hamas will be ousted out of Gaza, I have little doubt about that and I think that the Hamas leaders know it too, but chances are high that it will reappear in one form or another. My bet is on the West Bank. The disproportionate retaliation in Gaza and what's happening with the settlers in the West Bank at the moment will make sure of it.
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My school was always closely aligned with the SA anti-apartheid movement, to the extent we had some major leads of the ANC visit us frequently. We were also educated about the Palestinian people's right to their home and the terrible crimes committed to steal it from them since 1948. Since then, I've somehow just followed them on the news/twitter but never invested in it as much as I did back then through school.
Knew of but now getting acquainted with the hundreds and hundreds of absolute horror atrocities committed by the IDF/IOF on innocent Palestinian civilians over the last two decades. It's heart breaking, enraging stuff. I hope the dead find peace and the living know it in this lifetime. Israel and the terrible actors within it need to face justice (as do Hamas and their brand of terror).
Knew of but now getting acquainted with the hundreds and hundreds of absolute horror atrocities committed by the IDF/IOF on innocent Palestinian civilians over the last two decades. It's heart breaking, enraging stuff. I hope the dead find peace and the living know it in this lifetime. Israel and the terrible actors within it need to face justice (as do Hamas and their brand of terror).
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israe...-tony-blair-as-gaza-humanitarian-coordinator/
https://www.ft.com/content/f140a7f4-2541-4db2-8240-8f13600b3aa0
Tony fecking Blair
Gaza humanitarian coordinator
The word humanitarian and Blair should not be mentioned together and should be actually mocked. The guy himself should be in prison for fecking causing the death and suffering of hundredes of thousands if not millions of Iraqis.
https://www.ft.com/content/f140a7f4-2541-4db2-8240-8f13600b3aa0
Tony fecking Blair
Gaza humanitarian coordinator
The word humanitarian and Blair should not be mentioned together and should be actually mocked. The guy himself should be in prison for fecking causing the death and suffering of hundredes of thousands if not millions of Iraqis.
The Israeli state bringing the experts of breaking international law to help them break international law without consequences.
Lovely. Took only murdering 10k civilians to get to this, but it's an overall positive i suppose.
Quality control
Celebrate while you can. At the end of the conflict, the flags, the agendas behind it, and the threat of imposition of haram lifestyles on Muslims will be gone.
Yeah I genuinely laughed in bewilderment when I read thishttps://www.timesofisrael.com/israe...-tony-blair-as-gaza-humanitarian-coordinator/
https://www.ft.com/content/f140a7f4-2541-4db2-8240-8f13600b3aa0
Tony fecking Blair
Gaza humanitarian coordinator
The word humanitarian and Blair should not be mentioned together and should be actually mocked. The guy himself should be in prison for fecking causing the death and suffering of hundredes of thousands if not millions of Iraqis.
They deleted it. Why did they delete it?
Just thinking of that perfectly intact Mein Kampf book that Israel officials pulled from their ass…err, I mean ‘rubble’…it’s genuinely baffling to me the calibre of lies that official Israel accounts are propagating on twitter. Like, legit stuff that my soon to be 5 year old nephew would try and pull over on my sister when he is caught being naughty or doing something he shouldn’t etc.
What the feck are you on about?
There are people with a different sexual orientation and gender preferences everywhere and that also includes Palestine and other muslim countries. No one should ever be judged, condemned or punished for that. The interpretation and practice of a religion is a strictly personal matter and should never be imposed on anyone.
Keep your haram lifestyle horseshit out of the conversation.
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That's not the main reason at all.
A soldier stood in front of a tank, is waving a flag promoting something vehmently opposed by people they are conquering and killing, and i'm the problem.
Main reason? Hmm?
Debatable, but undoubtedly a large reason. Much of the Arab world is scared of Muslim extremism and terrorism and they also really don't want to make millions of Palastinians directly their problem, thus the borders locked for decades. Not that that that justifies Isarael's behaviour in general.
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Supporting the religious persecution of people based on their sexuality, irrespective of the context, is distinctly a you problem. You should hang your head in shame.
With this level of stone age thinking, you will be be alienating any sympathies you get. You are further reinforcing Israel's 'animals' narrative.
How do you expect tolerance from your oppressors when you are showing to be intolerant yourselves?
What do you think would happen if that proposal was actually put forward to the population of the Arab world?
The rejection is 99% due to "economical" reasons.
Proposal? What proposal?
If you mean that they don't want to offer sanctuary to Palestinians because it would be expensive then of course. Support is fine as long as it is just words. That is the point.
Yeah, you're a fecking problem. A big one at that.
Your idea of a monolithic, "pure" muslim population that doesn't give into the haram imposed by the West is a shitty one. You're thinking like a Neanderthal and doing an immense disservice to the palestinian cause. You have no way of knowing how every single Palestinian, or muslim for that matter, thinks, believes and loves. You have no right to judge or decide which way of life or practicing religion is the right one. The Palestinians and the muslims don't need braindead and intolerant people like you.
Give your head a wobble.
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Yes, your intolerant interpretation of your religion is the problem.
The LGBTQ communities in the west are among loudest voices protesting for the Palestinian cause. You are only going to alienate them with this way of thinking.
One matter has nothing to do with the other. Let's not conflate things because of an intolerant bloke on the internet who has little to do with the Palestinians.
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Your religion's utter nonsense, made up rules on how people should live their lives are a problem, yes.
Just an FYI for those involved.
In 1938, the german government used the fact that no European country would take Jewish refugees (including the UK, we point blank refused) to justify the claims that they were terrible inhumane people.
Do not do the same again.
In 1938, the german government used the fact that no European country would take Jewish refugees (including the UK, we point blank refused) to justify the claims that they were terrible inhumane people.
Do not do the same again.
This is a completely different issue actually and its cost in terms of money is far from being the main problem.
Fair enough.
https://theintercept.com/2023/11/12/gaza-evacuation-hind-khoudary/
Description of the march from north to south
Description of the march from north to south
So did they burn a house and didn't know the baby was inside or they just burned a baby alive knowingly?
I'm surprised they didn't add that it had been signed by the führer himself.
How Hamas deterred Netanyahu
When the history of Israel’s policy toward Hamas is investigated, one question will loom large: why did Israel allow Hamas, an implacable enemy, to grow alongside its jugular?
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/how-hamas-deterred-netanyahu/
(disillusioned Israeli right-wing take on Netanyahu’s legacy)
When the history of Israel’s policy toward Hamas is investigated, one question will loom large: why did Israel allow Hamas, an implacable enemy, to grow alongside its jugular?
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/how-hamas-deterred-netanyahu/
(disillusioned Israeli right-wing take on Netanyahu’s legacy)
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You are insinuating that much of arab's world are ok with the Palestinians being murdered everyday because they do not want them to be their problem. This does not sound good.
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They knew people were inside and it was intentionally firebombed.
There was a whole family inside - parents and 2 kids. Everyone died apart from the other kid who had some significant scarring. The settlers then chanted at the sentencing something along the lines of 'we put Ali on the grill' (the baby's name was Ali).
They actually did the meme.