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Main reason? Hmm?

Debatable, but undoubtedly a large reason. Much of the Arab world is scared of Muslim extremism and terrorism and they also really don't want to make millions of Palastinians directly their problem, thus the borders locked for decades. Not that that that justifies Isarael's behaviour in general.

This is certainly the case for Egypt and Jordan (the former being the middle east's most populous nation). Sisi doesn't want to deal with infusing Palestinians into his population after having gained power by overthrowing a Muslim Brotherhood guy. Jordan is already about 50% Palestinian, so the King won't want to risk destabilizing himself by adding more.
 
They knew people were inside and it was intentionally firebombed.

There was a whole family inside - parents and 2 kids. Everyone died apart from the other kid who had some significant scarring. The settlers then chanted at the sentencing something along the lines of 'we put Ali on the grill' (the baby's name was Ali).

fecking hell.
 

Imagine being the doctor or medical staff there having to see this unfold in real time. Absolutely heartbreaking. And then having to find the parent (if they're still alive) and convey this.

Having to have basic life necessities at the whim of an enemy that sees you less than human, has you living in an open air prison for decades, where you can't promise any hope for the future to your kids because you're at the mercy of this fascist brutal regime.

It's just horrible. Any one that supports this shite is culpable.
 
Question , Is it a war crime to bomb or attack a hospital if that hospital is also being used as a Millitary base?
 

So devastatingly tragic.

What do you think his child will feel as he grows up? Father and grandfather murdered for no fault of their own and now likely displaced and inevitably living in a refugee camp in a land his immediate family have called home for generations. Are we at all surprised if he's filled with nothing but vengeful hate for the Israelis, and would be seen as a perceptive recruit for the likes of Hamas?
 
A soldier stood in front of a tank, is waving a flag promoting something vehmently opposed by people they are conquering and killing, and i'm the problem.
Odd how some Muslims have an issue with this but not say, some of the more grim stuff in the Quaran.
 
So devastatingly tragic.

What do you think his child will feel as he grows up? Father and grandfather murdered for no fault of their own and now likely displaced and inevitably living in a refugee camp in a land his immediate family have called home for generations. Are we at all surprised if he's filled with nothing but vengeful hate for the Israelis, and would be seen as a perceptive recruit for the likes of Hamas?

It's a vicious circle. This is how extremism thrive, its not a surprise that Rabin was in their way and he had to go because he showed room for peace with the Palestinians. Labour party leader Merav Michaeli accused both Netanyahu and Bin Gvir of being complicit in the assassination of Rabin.

Ben Gvir, the rising star of the current election campaign, whose Religious Zionism party is seen heading for some 14 seats in the 120-member Knesset, first captured national attention when he was filmed as a teen boasting about stealing an emblem from Rabin’s car a short time before the assassination.
“We got to his car, and we’ll get to him, too,” he told a reporter at the time in televised comments.
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Check this one too. She deleted the post when she discovered that this is just a calendar after many thousands laughed at her.
 
Only seen a few clips but imagine piers Morgan interview with Corbyn tonight might make a few headlines tomorrow, mostly in the daily mail I guess.
 
You are insinuating that much of arab's world are ok with the Palestinians being murdered everyday because they do not want them to be their problem. This does not sound good.

Ok with it is a relative term. They don't want an influx of Palestinians though and they have resisted this for a long long time.
 


I don't think her translation is accurate. (purely isn't the only sense here). In Swedish I could use a similar adjective ("rent") to say "exclusively". That's how I understand the sentence she is quoting here... "Das sind doch keine reinen Deutschen" should be understood as "They're not solely Germans".
 
It will be hard for any objective non-gaslit observer to continue deny this stuff once it’s proven house to house each day.

Off course they are going to find tunnels, where else they are hiding? But are we going to believe everything The Israeli state show us? They just faked a document on their official twitter account and got caught.
 
It will be hard for any objective non-gaslit observer to continue deny this stuff once it’s proven house to house each day.

If you look at this thread maybe it wont be that hard.
 
It will be hard for any objective non-gaslit observer to continue deny this stuff once it’s proven house to house each day.

It would have been much easier to prove all you say, if Israel had allowed independent observers to go in and check the hospitals before occupying them and staging whatever they want...
 
If you look at this thread maybe it wont be that hard.

I believe there’s a longer six minute version of the video. The Israelis are going to be doing this every day or each time they come across something worth putting out. There’s an obvious propaganda quality to it, but that doesn’t mean the information is in any way inaccurate.
 
I believe there’s a longer six minute version of the video. The Israelis are going to be doing this every day or each time they come across something worth putting out. There’s an obvious propaganda quality to it, but that doesn’t mean the information is in any way inaccurate.
Or that it is true? If the russians made a similar video, you'd claim it was staged and in fact there is no way knowing it isn't.
 
It would have been much easier to prove all you say, if Israel had allowed independent observers to go in and check the hospitals before occupying them and staging whatever they want...

I don’t think independent observers can’t go into those places. They just have to know they’re taking their security into their own hands. The Israelis also have an embed program for journos who can travel into Gaza with them.
 
I believe there’s a longer six minute version of the video. The Israelis are going to be doing this every day or each time they come across something worth putting out. There’s an obvious propaganda quality to it, but that doesn’t mean the information is in any way inaccurate.
No, but the fact that they're caught lying on a daily basis sure as feck does. You can't trust anything Israel puts out at this point, because everything is tailored to suit their agenda (which is to make Gaza uninhabitable for Palestinians), and who knows how much of it is fabricated, planted or outright made up.

It's frankly baffling that you're so willing to just accept whatever Israel says, after what we've been seeing for the last couple of decades.
 
Yes, but that’s for the Russia thread.
The point is, there is no reason to believe what's obviously Isreali propaganda. Doesn't mean it isn't true. Doesn't mean it is. Hamas is obviously a terrorist organization and it isn't beyond them to hide in hospitals etc., but considering Israel is targeting hospitals, humanitarian workers and shelters, I don't consider it beyond them to stage scenes like these to at least try to justify their actions.