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[VorZakone]

 

[Cascarino]

I think the fact that to some, killing babies being ‘a European value’, and not just the universal value it is, explains why they have the views they do. Israel and its people are an extension of Europe, and its values. That Israel has killed Palestinians at a greater rate, than vice versa, and that 40% of Palestinians killed have been children, doesn’t have the same impact to them.

 

[MDFC Manager]

Communications (internet etc) has been blown apart apparently. Yeah looks like they're going in now.

 

[RedTiger]

So it begins.

 

[VorZakone]

 

[Giggsyking]

 

[RedDevil@84]

US can now start denying the deaths. And calling for peace once thousands more are dead.

 

[Brown Toothpick]

Israel commiting genocide all while the world is sitting silently. History won't look back at us nicely.

 

[4bars]

Israel commiting genocide all while the world is sitting silently. History won't look back at us nicely.

History is written by the winners. Nazi Germany were the losers. Israel will be the winners and when Palestinians will be gone as refugees in other countries or dead, they will be just a spec in history and Israel what had always had to be, the promise land for jews and a consequence of the Holocaust (is not)

 

[BootsyCollins]

We will look back on this in shame.

 

[Bebe]

They never mention who killed them. They die y themselves.

Not sure what you're insinuating here, they clearly misfired and bombed themselves.

 

[RedDevil@84]

Israel commiting genocide all while the world is sitting silently. History won't look back at us nicely.

Opinions hardly matter. In the end whoever has the money and power is the winner. History has taught us that again and again.

 

[calodo2003]

 

[owlo]

This is going to get so much more fecked up. Not even sure I have the words to enunciate my position.

 

[maniak]

These reporters have balls of steel.

 

[Raoul]

History is written by the winners. Nazi Germany were the losers. Israel will be the winners and when Palestinians will be gone as refugees in other countries or dead, they will be just a spec in history and Israel what had always had to be, the promise land for jews and a consequence of the Holocaust (is not)

Harsh but probably closer to reality than not.

 

[MDFC Manager]

At least we'll not hear of the atrocities for a few weeks...if ever

 

[berbatrick]

At least we'll not hear of the atrocities for a few weeks...if ever

can't trust the palestinians, they can't even shoot straight
- biden, leader of the civilised world

 

[Sly]

This is going to get so much more fecked up. Not even sure I have the words to enunciate my position.

And i suspect it won't be contained just to that region. I hope I'm wrong.

 

[BootsyCollins]

The ”history is written by winners” are true enough, but i feel like it changed with mobile phones and social media. The losers in earlier wars had no way to get their histories out, now they do.

 

[Ekkie Thump]

No light, no communication, no way of getting help. How many are trapped and dying as I type this?

 

[berbatrick]

History is written by the winners. Nazi Germany were the losers. Israel will be the winners and when Palestinians will be gone as refugees in other countries or dead, they will be just a spec in history and Israel what had always had to be, the promise land for jews and a consequence of the Holocaust (is not)

No, don't worry, it's no longer the middle ages. In 2065, a sociology professor at the Benny Gantz University will do a land acknowledgement regarding the sadly displaced peoples.

 

[RedDevil@84]

The ”history is written by winners” are true enough, but i feel like it changed with mobile phones and social media. The losers in earlier wars had no way to get their histories out, now they do.

And then? It juts becomes a folklore on the internet. Major media and govts will deny it, shout fake news, insert new angles to confuse people and then in few years nobody is sure what happened. Everyone picks sides based on their bias.

 

[owlo]

And i suspect it won't be contained just to that region. I hope I'm wrong.

Biden is doing a good job keeping a lid on it right now. All the agitation is coming from Iran. They need dealt with, but hopefully after this, not concurrently to it. More will likely die in that conflict than this one, but it needs done.

Other than that it's mostly civil disobedience; most nations realise that Israel don't have much more of a choice than Palestinians in this. I just wish they could find a way to lower the brutality of it all.

 

[Ekkie Thump]

This is a lot of bombs:

 

[BootsyCollins]

And then? It juts becomes a folklore on the internet. Major media and govts will deny it, shout fake news, insert new angles to confuse people and then in few years nobody is sure what happened. Everyone picks sides based on their bias.

I really hopes it will become more than just folklore on the internet. But maybe you are right.
It just feels hopeless, thousands on thousands will be burried under their own homes, and i will go insane if i think that in a few months no one will care, or even belive that it happened.

 

[owlo]

Harsh but probably closer to reality than not.

I don't buy it.

 

[maniak]

most nations realise that Israel don't have much more of a choice than Palestinians in this.

Is this a joke?

 

[Rektsanwalt]

Biden is doing a good job keeping a lid on it right now. All the agitation is coming from Iran. They need dealt with, but hopefully after this, not concurrently to it. More will likely die in that conflict than this one, but it needs done.

Other than that it's mostly civil disobedience; most nations realise that Israel don't have much more of a choice than Palestinians in this. I just wish they could find a way to lower the brutality of it all.

you‘re talking about peoples lives like they‘re leaves falling down a tree in autumn

makes me vomit

 

[2mufc0]

Is this a joke?

You could have quoted the whole post. So deluded.

 

[maniak]

You could have quoted the whole post. So deluded.

The rest of the post doesn't make it any better. The aggressor always has the choice to stop.

 

[RedDevil@84]

Is this a joke?

You should read other posts on this thread from the poster.

 

[4bars]

And then? It juts becomes a folklore on the internet. Major media and govts will deny it, shout fake news, insert new angles to confuse people and then in few years nobody is sure what happened. Everyone picks sides based on their bias.

Not to forget that in 50-60 years time, who will care? cells or no cells will be history and life goes on

 

[2mufc0]

The ”history is written by winners” are true enough, but i feel like it changed with mobile phones and social media. The losers in earlier wars had no way to get their histories out, now they do.

The Muslim world won't forget for sure, there's a massive disconnect between the rulers of these countries and their people's views, eventually these puppet regimes will fall and can see the issue likely starting the next world war. This could all be prevented with the US withdrawing unconditional support and Israel adhering to international law.

 

[2mufc0]

The rest of the post doesn't make it any better. The aggressor always has the choice to stop.

I'm with you, I was talking about the poster you quoted, total car crash of a post.

 

[maniak]

I'm with you, I was talking about the poster you quoted, total car crash of a post.

Gotcha.

 

[owlo]

you‘re talking about peoples lives like they‘re leaves falling down a tree in autumn

makes me vomit

No?

Is this a joke?

Name a country that would have reacted differently to 1300 people being slaughtered in a day, by an enemy less than a kilometre from its border. Every major nation would react the same.

 

[maniak]

Name a country that would have reacted differently to 1300 people being slaughtered in a day, by an enemy less than a kilometre from its border. Every major nation would react the same.

I prefer to name Israel as a criminal state for what they're doing now instead of talking about hypotheticals. The idea Israel has no choice but to keep killing children by the thousands is a sign that you've lost all perspective and should rethink how you look at this.

 

[Raoul]

The Muslim world won't forget for sure, there's a massive disconnect between the rulers of these countries and their people's views, eventually these puppet regimes will fall and can see the issue likely starting the next world war. This could all be prevented with the US withdrawing unconditional support and Israel adhering to international law.

It wouldn't been much simpler if Hamas simply didn't attack the Israelis and kill 1,300 of their citizens three weeks ago. If not for that, none of what is happening right now would be happening. It was all very predictable from the start when Hamas went into Israel.

 

[BootsyCollins]

The Muslim world won't forget for sure, there's a massive disconnect between the rulers of these countries and their people's views, eventually these puppet regimes will fall and can see the issue likely starting the next world war. This could all be prevented with the US withdrawing unconditional support and Israel adhering to international law.

Not a singel part of the world should forget.

And yes, but neither will. At least for now, but one can have hope for the future.