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If this is true, the hostage problem will be solved soon enough with the ongoing carpet bombing.
 
That is disgusting if true, but where is this analyst is getting his information about the IDF deliberately targeting the family of the Jazeera reporter?
I’d assume the journo probably has some ties in the IDF.
 
Israel is a democracy, like the antebellum or Jim Crow South, or South Africa, were democracies. They all had elected government and restricted citizenship and personhood by race and/or geography.
 


If this is true, the hostage problem will be solved soon enough with the ongoing carpet bombing.


Always take what Hamas says with a grain of salt, but seems pretty plausible given the scale of the bombing and the density of the area. If Hamas themself are hiding among the civilians, why wouldn't they also be hiding some of the hostages there?
 
That is an oxymoron.
Kinda.

Government members are still democratically elected and, as others more knowledgeable than me mentioned, the Arab Israelis can be part of the Parliament. No matter the flaws of the Israeli political system, it is much, much more than what any country in the region can offer to their own people. So it's not difficult to understand why the western populations, who are in their overwhelming majority utterly uninformed on the subject and what's happening in Gaza and the West Bank, see Israel as a beacon of light in the Middle-East.

While I somehow understand the reasons behind it, I personally believe that this ethnocentric view of the state does an immense disservice to the Israelis, for whom I have the utmost respect and admiration, and is ultimately bound to fail.

History won't look kindly on it.
 
That is disgusting if true, but where is this analyst is getting his information about the IDF deliberately targeting the family of the Jazeera reporter?

He could be just guessing (educated or not)… But the likelihood of just randomly killing so many journalist (already 25) out of the total 3500 adults killed is too low… this makes it more likely that some of the journalist killing was deliberate. Statistically (supposing that 0,2% of the working population are in journalism) we should get to this number first after ~16.000 adult casualties….
 


I wasn't initially buying that Israel had targetted the journalist's family since I thought they died in one of those massive strikes that takes down an entire apartment complex, which would kill many more families, but from the videos it looks like a precision strike on just his house. They knew exactly what they were doing.

Just fecking awful. The Israel government is absolute scum of the earth.



In 2021 Israel suffered 1775 rock attack.


What the feck, did they really just cry about people throwing rocks at them when they have tanks and guns to shoot those people? :D
 
He could be just guessing (educated or not)… But the likelihood of just randomly killing so many journalist (already 25) out of the total 3500 adults killed is too low… this makes it more likely that some of the journalist killing was deliberate. Statistically (supposing that 0,2% of the working population are in journalism) we should get to this number first after ~16.000 adult casualties….
There’s also this:



An hour or so later, his family were killed. He was the most prominent AJ reporter in the region.
 
He could be just guessing (educated or not)… But the likelihood of just randomly killing so many journalist (already 25) out of the total 3500 adults killed is too low… this makes it more likely that some of the journalist killing was deliberate. Statistically (supposing that 0,2% of the working population are in journalism) we should get to this number first after ~16.000 adult casualties….

I take your point, but also journalists will likely be taking greater risks than the general population.
 
What the feck, did they really just cry about people throwing rocks at them when they have tanks and guns to shoot those people? :D
Why not? After all they have successfully campaigned for decades that their lives matter more so any injury to them from people throwing rocks is ofcourse more heinous than them killing Palestinians.
 
He could be just guessing (educated or not)… But the likelihood of just randomly killing so many journalist (already 25) out of the total 3500 adults killed is too low… this makes it more likely that some of the journalist killing was deliberate. Statistically (supposing that 0,2% of the working population are in journalism) we should get to this number first after ~16.000 adult casualties….
Oh I have no doubt they do target journalists intentionally, they are a morally bankrupt state, but he was talking like he was stating a fact. I think like you said he is probably making an educated guessing more than an information he personally got.
 
I wasn't initially buying that Israel had targetted the journalist's family since I thought they died in one of those massive strikes that takes down an entire apartment complex, which would kill many more families, but from the videos it looks like a precision strike on just his house. They knew exactly what they were doing.

I saw a video of the journalist crying and screaming "they took revenge on me through my children". He personally thinks it was deliberate.
 
They murdered Shireen in cold blood. She was Palestinian American, and to date no one has been tried for this murder. So I really don’t think it’s beyond the realms of possibility that they targeted Wael’s family.
 
He (and the original poster) are wrong in their assumption that this is because of Palestine, and not because of Israel.
 
I have probably a dumb question but was hoping someone might have a sensible answer for me.

Why doesnt the Israeli Govt stop the settlers taking Palestinian land?
 


Whattaboutism? Sure… but still, bit much innit?

Speed running the war on terror in the social media age where everyone under 40 grew up fully aware of its hubris/failure/illegality just seems like a really dumb idea tbh, I dunno.
 
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