Anything coming out from the idf is an instant lie. The "truth" is manipulated by them for their brain dead zombie followers as pro israeli propaganda.
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As for the border skirmishes between Israel and Hezbollah, the NYT article suggests it's to show solidarity with Hamas but not to provoke a bigger war.
I've been scouring around looking at previous videos of Hamas rockets and you're right none seem to produce the blast as the same level as the one that hit the hospital.
I would like to think the IDF hit it by mistake, but the way they having been baying for blood I'm not too sure.
It's all in the delivery. Israel has one chance to spin this the way they want, a more fancy, professional presentation will go a long way to control the narrative as they want.
Saw somewhere that they also want to show it to Biden first.
You may well be right. It might change the minds of some of the people willing to sit in front of a screen and watch a couple of minutes from a representative of a body and state they loathe.
Won't matter in the slightest to the people who will be protesting in the tens of thousands in different cities tomorrow.
I don't know where I'm at. I find it hard to believe either side.
It's not fine. For people who can otherwise avoid it, I repeat, NOTHING good can come from seeing those images, only future trauma
What the hell are they playing at? I could have photoshopped that in 10 seconds,
and I'd need to download the goddamn program first.
They should go to sleep and release whatever video/audio they have as fast as they can.
numpties.
Goes to my 'take the right amount of time to make the right type of presentation' point.
What the hell are they playing at? I could have photoshopped that in 10 seconds,
and I'd need to download the goddamn program first.
They should go to sleep and release whatever video/audio they have as fast as they can.
numpties.
It's like war VAR.
Just confirmed what any human being with one functioning braincell thinks. Not Hamas nor Islamic Jihad posses rockets with this size of damage.
Drinking water has basically run out in Gaza and families are having to resort to boiling toilet water. At this point, a lot of people are likely to die of thirst.
It's really sad to see how strong western propaganda can really be. Literally anything Israel does to Palestine they'll just cover up with fake shit. My family lived it in Sarajevo when they were under siege, the claims that we were doing it to ourselves... except it's now happening 10 fold to Palestinians. Horrible to see and absolutely pathetic anybody who laps it up.
Ironically bataan was better positioned for Iran before she went on her jollys away the strait of Hormuz. Agree with the rest.
Water blockade was ended a few days ago. Situation still dire.
It’s not reaching the displaced people. Even the UN are rationing their own supply to 1 liter per person per day
Likely a Palestinian terrorist missile. Not seen conclusive evidence either way of where that explosion came from. If anybody can tell you with any degree of certainty they are lying. The best conclusion I’ve seen is that it came from Palestinian terrorists, but if you asked me to stand up in court and swear it I couldn’t.
about those “sounds like a jdam” videos on twitter. Jdam is just a kit you attach to a bomb (large number compatible) which gives it guidance, like adding an extra propellor to your dJI drone for stability. So the “sounds like a jdam” is obviously ridiculous. Best sound analysis from somebody who knows what they are talking about with Sound (I don’t) is here:
about those “sounds like a jdam” videos on twitter. Jdam is just a kit you attach to a bomb (large number compatible) which gives it guidance, like adding an extra propellor to your dJI drone for stability. So the “sounds like a jdam” is obviously ridiculous. Best sound analysis from somebody who knows what they are talking about with Sound (I don’t) is here:
Grim. Poor souls.
Ah that's an interesting angle. I'll look that up thanks.
Well the director of the bombed hospital Has just released a statement saying:
The IDF told us, 'we warned you yesterday with two bombs. So why have you not evacuated the hospital until this moment?
The IDF told us, 'we warned you yesterday with two bombs. So why have you not evacuated the hospital until this moment?
I do agree that the majority of the Muslim countries leaders are very much allied to America and aligned with it's policies. As someone who's lived in the Middle East in various different countries for work purposes the majority of the general population aren't. Take the UAE and Morocco for example, establishing diplomatic ties with Israel was sold to their respective populations with a promise of establishing a Palestinian state, In Morocco there's already been demonstrations demanding cancellation of those ties and in the UAE #StopDeplomatictieswiththeZionists was trending (I know it sounds minor but with for anyone who's knowledgeable about the UAE that's a very big thing). Egypt and Jordan will see widespread demonstrations as will Lebanon, Yemen and Iraq which could cause another Arab spring if nothing is done and this continues. Saudi Arabia will definitely stop negotiations with Israel for the foreseeable for this. Basically the longer this goes on the more likely the Middle Eastern populations will revolt and rebel against their leaders, it's a very precarious situation and I'm not sure Netanyahu and Biden have taken this into account. The last thing Israel and the US need right now is more instability and more countries that surround Israel turning into Syria, Libya and Iraq.
Respect from whom, the average Joes or the leaders?
What would 'much respect' from China & Russia garner or equate to?
I believe you must remove yourself from these kind of posts to stay sane. The entire of it is completely nonsensical.
What is your opinion of the Al Jazeera footage? You see a rocket fly up, change direction, fall apart and then a large explosion below it. This causes a fire and we then witness upwards of an hour of an ever increasing number of emergency vehicles driving to and from what is clearly a major incident.
I honestly don’t know anything about this kind of thing so it’s just based off twitter and others opinions, but if you read the tweets of the guy I quoted, he said a “powered projectile“ as in a missile not bomb, and then this. Others have mentioned the projectile has a trail.
There’s also been some geolocation with times done which shows the launch.And this post from a guy who is less experienced (but still published) than Justin. (This footage is geolocated too)
Altogether the consensus is that going with the Hamas version of events is a huge media feck up, which is going to get people killed. I don’t mention which, but an embassy has been overrun and there’s risk of more.
Also American lawmakers need to get a grip and not incite terror and violence @calodo2003 @Raoul - Tlaib is beyond the pale. Should be impeached asap.
What did she say?
To be fair, the first guy I quoted is actually an expert on that stuff. Definitely get your drift though!
“Your war and destruction only approach has opened my eyes and many Palestinian Americans and Muslims Americans like me. We will remember where you stood.” kind of sounds like a threat to the United States.
Yeah - in all the years I have followed events in the region, I have never seen the press being so one sided. It is like an orchestrated effort around the world. Utterly sickening.
What are you trying to imply here?
Oh no you can’t be criticising Murica now
Definitive answers as well, whereas the actual actors are struggling to give out coherent answers
Sick sick world we live in which allows this to burn and fans the flames, even.
Utterly failed species.
Utterly failed species.
She is muslim, she has to be a terrorist… it can’t be about who they vote for next time…
What happened with the tweets from a spokesperson about Israel taking credit for bombing the hospital and then shortly thereafter removing the tweet after the number of casualties came out? And claims the video was from another day or something
At the risk of getting laughed at I attempted to independently geolocate the site of the explosion in the Al Jazeera footage with google maps satellite imagery of Al Ahli Arab hospital:
Here's a comparison from street level on Omar Al Muktar Road (not sure about the shadow):
Here's a photo from SkyNews of the explosion site and Google maps satellite footage again:
I'm pretty convinced that the malfunctioning missile shown live on Al-Jazeera is the one responsible for the devastation at the hospital. Only doubt in my mind is the origin of the missile.
This is brilliant
Jesus. Really? Pictures need to be posted to show what’s happening to the millions of people and who’s doing what. So just ignore the thread if you can’t stomach it. It’s not for you.
Came to post this. Brilliant interview.
Sickening.
Read the thread banner at the bottom of the page.
I always enjoy Mark Hertling as someone who can explain his military viewpoint in simple terms on television.
He explains how difficult it is to make a thorough forensics analysis of the explosion if no one sends experts on the ground. The crater analysis is one thing, but the pieces of the explosive device are what matters the most.
He explains how difficult it is to make a thorough forensics analysis of the explosion if no one sends experts on the ground. The crater analysis is one thing, but the pieces of the explosive device are what matters the most.