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None of that surprises me unfortunately. The disproportionate influence of the pro-Israel lobby on the Western media is unfortunately an endemic characteristic of the latter and is something that is deeply insidious. As far as I'm aware, no other country needs a political lobby to the extent that Israel has, and yet even when the mildest of criticism is levelled against them (and I'm talking the sort of play by the numbers impartiality of the BBC), they bristle with indignation.
Wait, Israelis are using dishonest means to influence public opinion? I’m shocked, SHOCKED!
Fantastic. Hope more countries adopt the BDS form of protest.
Well done New Zealand!
Yup, I mean it's a pretty obvious truth now to be honest. The issue is highlighting this, you get the 'antisemitism' card thrown at you.
Yep. Sad but true.
Fecking antisemites.
There's dozens of these online.
Again, for the record. I personally believe that 100% there are casualties, that there are attacks on palestinians, but in terms of pallywood, yes, they exist. And I personally don't blame a bit of propaganda here and there, but let's not pretend they don't exist.
Pallywood is Israeli led propaganda. Do you have anything more objective that can be used as evidence of the above?
There's dozens of these online.
Again, for the record. I personally believe that 100% there are casualties, that there are attacks on palestinians, but in terms of pallywood, yes, they exist. And I personally don't blame a bit of propaganda here and there, but let's not pretend they don't exist.
Fantastic! Need more of these kind of actions.
So those are actually mossad agents posing as victim?
I’m saying I don’t know who they are. It doesn’t even look like the right BBC font or colour on the news article for starters. Could be anything, and I doubt if it’s from Israeli led propaganda that it’s anything legit.
I assume the poster's saying what is obvious: that's hardly compelling evidence.
How can anyone with a functioning normal human being brain cant say the Israeli/zoinist lobby in the USA do not control/have powerful effect on the media? Bury your heads in sand.
Those are two separate things. And the notion of control I absolutely would avoid talking about or claiming, given the history of that phrase and how it has been used, as well as the lack of evidentiary support.
Also, if there were no evangelical Christians in the United States, there would not be this level of support for Israel and its actions.
It is all very well having a PR system as part of your foreign policy - Israel does it, along with every other country on the planet - there needs to be a willing audience to receive the message. That's why China and Russia's media campaigns, despite them spending much more than Israel on all these types of activities, only really receives acceptance amongst fringe elements of American society.
This is heartbreaking.
the IDF and Israel police are arresting as many youths right now, including Israeli Arabs who they deemed were ‘protesting’. They’re saying up to 500 have been arrested in the last 48 hours.
Safe to say, nearly every social media post about violence and death in this thread are propaganda designed to influence public opinion in one direction or another.
Synagogues burned, riots, people hurt and killed. All participants - Jews and Arabs are rightly getting arrested.
So whats your point?
What? How? If there’s a video of a building being destroyed it’s not propaganda. It’s a video of a building being destroyed. If there’s a video of ‘Palestine fake funeral’ doing the rounds on social media by pro Israeli Twitter accounts it’s propaganda. The two aren’t even remotely the same.
Here he is, fresh from the hasbara refresher course. Where’s the customary YouTube link?
like clockwork.
It doesn't have to be untrue to be propaganda. It just has to be curated in a one sided way to appeal to groups who largely already agree with one another.
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Wow, I hope people say that to BLM, Hong Kong protestors or even the Belarus journalist. It's all propaganda.
You wouldn't say it to them because they are actual participants in events on the ground, not remote bystanders half way around the world posting provocative social media links to people who already agree with them.
You are a strange person.
That's called spreading awareness, no?
News spreads awareness. Propaganda spreads influence.
But the bombing of tower blocks and killing of children is news. The photos released during the Vietnam war that showcased the brutality were news but it influenced the American population into a massive anti war movement. Propaganda for me has to be one sided and/or false, which describes exactly what the MSM have been up to, these social media posts are pushing back against a false narrative.
I agree with this. The trouble is, a vast majority of the information is one sided and intended to influence audiences to conform to a particular view of the conflict.
The problem I see with calling these social media posts propaganda is that they're actively fighting propaganda. If it weren't for them, we'd have to rely on the media narrative, which would not bode well for the Palestinians. I understand what you're saying but I see these guys as whistleblowers more than propagandists.
A response to that clown Oliver:
I've seen a couple of these "responses". Often the defence is we're cnuty but not as cnuty as you say you are.
Its not just what you tell people. Its how you tell people. Propaganda doesnt have to false. It can just be selective. Like if there was a battle and 200 Palestinians died and 3 Israelis died the headline "over 200 people were killed today in the fighting between Israeli and Palestinian forces." is a factually correct statement. But it presents itself as there was a comparable amount of loss on both sides which is factually incorrect. So if you hear that people are dying on both sides, you think it must be a fair fight then, right?