Isco

I'm really not sure he is what we need, to me he's another good player but just buying him for the sake of that. I know some people will say buy first fit him in later but as far as I'm concerned that transfer matched is what's put us in trouble.
We should be looking at top class, CB, CM, RW and possibly another ST. If the player doesn't fit that e.g Isco , it's buying for the sake
 
Cracking player - cant see him leaving madrid - certainly cant see him leaving for thursday night europa football and if we would come to manchester I cant help but think his manager would be Pep.
 
He's a cracking player, is young but already with a lot of experience. He has the dynamism and a burst of pace which, for me, we lack at 10. Given the chance to move Mata on and put Isco in, I'd jump at it.

However, he'll be at City come August.
 
I like Isco, he's a quality technique player who busts his balls over 90 minutes.. the type of Mourinho player. We can't have both him and Mata though, they're similar type of attackers, Mourinho might sell Mata though.
 
Guillerme says both Isco and James may be sold. Which one would suit us best and why? I remember when we were linked with James it was as a ROnaldo replacement on the wings. He could be a better version of Mata, to cover both the wings and AMC
 
James is a second striker and Isco is a attacking midfielder. James has a fantastic shot and is the better finisher, while Isco is more dynamic, the better dribbler and overall more creative.
Both can start out wide, but are best in the middle.
 
James is a second striker and Isco is a attacking midfielder. James has a fantastic shot and is the better finisher, while Isco is more dynamic, the better dribbler and overall more creative.
Both can start out wide, but are best in the middle.
You avoided the question nicely like a politician. i.e. you put the ball back in my court. Who do you think would suit us best right now if we could only sign 1 of them?
 
In my opinion Isco is the superior player. I don´t think, that it is really close between those two. James is a great finisher but overall I am not particularly impressed by him. There are various players, who are better than him as second striker/wide forward. Isco on the other hand is one of the most talented attacking midfielders in the world. His development stalled a bit, but he still frequently showed his quality for Madrid despite all the circus that surrounds the club. He also looks a lot more motivated and never shied away from doing dirty work. So I prefer Isco all day long; the only problem is, that he doesn´t fit into our current system. It is pointless to buy Isco with LvG being in charge. James on the other hand would fit very well into the current system.
 
Isco is better the James and should be who you go for out of the two. He is equally good as a CM and attacking midfielder.
 
I wouldn't mind both tbh. They were brilliant as the wide players in a 4-4-2 under Ancelotti. Both are class and Madrid as usual would be fools to let them go.
 
If he's available we simply have to go for him. Too good to miss out on.
 
Magnificent player, I'm a big fan. I'll take him over James any day.
 
James is a Woodward player tbh. Pretty, scores goals, adidas sponsored and massive in an emerging market.
 
I love Isco. Ridiculous technique and not a pansy.
 
I don't see Rodriguez as a Mourinho player at all. Isco.. could be another Deco, has enough work rate about him and more importantly is a proper ball carrier.
 
If Mourinho is our next manager, I can see someone like Barkley instead of Isco/James. It seems that Juventus want Isco, I think he would be a good signing for Arsenal because City already have KDB/Silva. I can see City signing Gundogan.
Also, it is going to be interesting to see where Pogba goes next season.
 
I think Isco has surpassed James and is the better player.

That said, probably off to City if he moves.
 
Why are people acting like James and Isco is an either/or question? They both fit in the same team and i'd be wonderful to have bother here. Demands at Madrid are ridiculous and have a mammoth squad, put them here in the no10 and no7 then we're on to something.
 
Why are people acting like James and Isco is an either/or question? They both fit in the same team and i'd be wonderful to have bother here. Demands at Madrid are ridiculous and have a mammoth squad, put them here in the no10 and no7 then we're on to something.

Seems silly when we have Martial, Depay, Rashford, Januzaj and even Lingard for the width. With the first 3 providing striker cover. We'd just need the one to battle for Mata's spot. I'd personally go for Isco, he suits the Prem a bit more.
 
Seems silly when we have Martial, Depay, Rashford, Januzaj and even Lingard for the width. With the first 3 providing striker cover. We'd just need the one to battle for Mata's spot. I'd personally go for Isco, he suits the Prem a bit more.
They are a few levels above Lingard and Januzaj, Rashford is only 18 too and will be a striker long term.
 
Why are people acting like James and Isco is an either/or question? They both fit in the same team and i'd be wonderful to have bother here. Demands at Madrid are ridiculous and have a mammoth squad, put them here in the no10 and no7 then we're on to something.
I think because both play better at No.10 and we have Mata, Herrera, Januzaj, Pereira and Rooney that can play there. So 1 of them would be enough to improve that position.

Martial and Memphis are better on the left. We don't have a proper right winger. We need pace and James and Isco don't provide that on the wings.
 
They are a few levels above Lingard and Januzaj, Rashford is only 18 too and will be a striker long term.

I agree, but you'll only just stifle their progress bringing both in. One would allow healthy competition, both would push them back to being bit part players and go back to giving people like Weir, Rothwell, Pereira 0 chance of ever getting a game
 
I think because both play better at No.10 and we have Mata, Herrera, Januzaj, Pereira and Rooney that can play there. So 1 of them would be enough to improve that position.

Martial and Memphis are better on the left. We don't have a proper right winger. We need pace and James and Isco don't provide that on the wings.

For a period last year Madrid played with Isco and James on either wing and that worked out fine for them.
 
Dont think he is better than James at all to be fair, he is a nicer player to watch, and one of the most elegant young talents out there but James is just more efficient and has that extra physique and explosivity, both fantastic talents imo.
 
I think because both play better at No.10 and we have Mata, Herrera, Januzaj, Pereira and Rooney that can play there. So 1 of them would be enough to improve that position.

Martial and Memphis are better on the left. We don't have a proper right winger. We need pace and James and Isco don't provide that on the wings.
isco is more of a midfield playmaker, than a genuine attacking 10. while james is an attacker. Its like comparing Seedorf to Kaka or Deco to Ronaldinho. Teams need both, and we know we could use some star quality in our team.
 
They are a few levels above Lingard and Januzaj, Rashford is only 18 too and will be a striker long term.
------Memphis----Martial-----Rodriguez
--------------Isco--------Hererra-------
-----------------Schneiderlin------------
is the sort of direction we should be heading.
 
why would city by isco when they have the trillion dollar de bruyne though? both are wasted on rw

They need depth. Silva is getting older and injury prone too. It actually makes a lot of sense, especially because of Pep.
 
------Memphis----Martial-----Rodriguez
--------------Isco--------Hererra-------
-----------------Schneiderlin------------
is the sort of direction we should be heading.
That side would cause any team in the world problems.
 
We would be lucky to get one of Isco or James, and i dont think Real will sell both, my guess is Isco. Thats the one we wont be after anyway.
 
I agree, but you'll only just stifle their progress bringing both in. One would allow healthy competition, both would push them back to being bit part players and go back to giving people like Weir, Rothwell, Pereira 0 chance of ever getting a game
If you are good enough you'll play. We play in 4 competitions so under normal circumstances there would be ample game opps. One will battle for RW and cover AMC, the other will be AMC. We don't have reliable AMC in our squad so its a no brainer for me
 
If you are good enough you'll play. We play in 4 competitions so under normal circumstances there would be ample game opps. One will battle for RW and cover AMC, the other will be AMC. We don't have reliable AMC in our squad so its a no brainer for me
I do see your point, I think we just differ on squad management views. I am a bit of an anti Galactico as well, so probably my bias.
 
isco is more of a midfield playmaker, than a genuine attacking 10. while james is an attacker. Its like comparing Seedorf to Kaka or Deco to Ronaldinho. Teams need both, and we know we could use some star quality in our team.
So, in a 4231 formation, where would you play Isco? Midfield of 2, as a winger or CAM?
 
It seems that Madrid could sell him if they sign Pogba. He is talented and also contributes in the defensive work. However, he looks more like Guardiola type of player than Mourinhos