Isco

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backofthenet said:
We do actually have some very valid options for the inside forward positions in the reserves that deserve their chance in Lingard and Januzaj. Would rather see them get a shot than spending 30mil on Isco.
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Those are most likely players that will have a couple of loans to get some experience and develop, if they are good enough they will get their chance down the road, Isco is ready here and now and a talent so good that you don't overlook him for what might be in a few years time.
 
Devil may care said:
Those are most likely players that will have a couple of loans to get some experience and develop, if they are good enough they will get their chance down the road, Isco is ready here and now and a talent so good that you don't overlook him for what might be in a few years time.
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I think they might surprise if given a chance in the first team. Fergie was definitely suggesting that Januzaj would get his chance, to the point he was included on the bench in the 5-5. I suppose we'll see when the pre-season squad is announced, and we don't know what attitude Moyes will take to blooding youngsters, but I believe he could do a job now and is a viable option.
 
backofthenet said:
I think they might surprise if given a chance in the first team. Fergie was definitely suggesting that Januzaj would get his chance, to the point he was included on the bench in the 5-5. I suppose we'll see when the pre-season squad is announced, and we don't know what attitude Moyes will take to blooding youngsters, but I believe he could do a job now and is a viable option.
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At 18 he'd be very unlikely to play regularly and if used as an inside forward he'd operate best on the opposite side of the pitch to Isco. It's irrelevant anyway I guess, we are not in for Isco and I think Januzaj will go on loan, so Ashley Young and Welbeck will occupy the role next season I suppose.
 
Currently floating about on marca:
Real Madrid have agreed a deal for Málaga midfielder Isco, 21, who will be on loan at Málaga next season, according to Paco González (Cadena COPE).
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Interesting that Barca could have bought him rather than Neymar for significantly less money. For all his tricks and flicks (and goals!) in Brazil, he's never looked anywhere near as impressive against top opponents as Isco regularly does.

If Madrid get Isco, it could be that we will end up viewing it as the better deal.
 
gaz1185 said:
Currently floating about on marca:
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The main story on MARCA just implies Real have no room for him. They'd have to offload Oezil.

Could be Man City he ends up with I'm afraid.
 
No, sorry I don't mean on the Marca webpage itself, just the transfer newsfeed they have. It's Cadena COPE that are reporting it.
 
gaz1185 said:
No, sorry I don't mean on the Marca webpage itself, just the transfer newsfeed they have. It's Cadena COPE that are reporting it.
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Seems like an extension of the same rumour though. If they have no room for him then just loan him out!

He seems too expensive a signing to do that though. The chairman will want big signings actually coming to play with the elections coming.
 
Comsmit said:
He's been playing football in an amazing fashion for well over a year now....it's just now he is coming to the attention of every Tom, Dick and Harry who doesn't see a football world beyond the hyper-bubble that is the Premier League.

He definitely has done enough to warrant the attention, you perhaps just haven't been watching closely enough.
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Why should I? I follow United and catch a few CL games I am content with it. I don't have enough time to find and watch Malaga's games. Plus, people have been wrong about these prospects more than they've been right.
 
Everest Red said:
Why should I? I follow United and catch a few CL games I am content with it. I don't have enough time to find and watch Malaga's games. Plus, people have been wrong about these prospects more than they've been right.
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Which is all fair enough. But if you don't watch a player, how can you make claims like this:

Everest Red said:
I don't think Isco has done anything to warrant this much attention.
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Brightonian said:
Which is all fair enough. But if you don't watch a player, how can you make claims like this:
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He was not called up for Spain for starters(which is a terrible argument actually, given Spain's quality). My argument is based on the fact that one season is nothing to go by. He might end up being very, very good, but you can't be certain of it after mere one season.

Plus this U-21 tournament has helped his hype. Making judgements based on junior tournaments is very dangerous.
 
And I think a lot are getting a bit carried away here too, he's playing in an U21 tournament so I'd expect him to set the tournament alight. It's a massive step up to senior level. Although there's potential there, from what I saw of him in last seasons Champions League he looks good, but he's not Mata or Silva quality as of yet.
 
Kid Cunto said:
And I think a lot are getting a bit carried away here too, he's playing in an U21 tournament so I'd expect him to set the tournament alight. It's a massive step up to senior level. Although there's potential there, from what I saw of him in last seasons Champions League he looks good, but he's not Mata or Silva quality as of yet.
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He was good for a whole season, he's already better than Silva.
 
The Donut said:
He was good for a whole season, he's already better than Silva.
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Is he really though? Silva's had a poor season, but he's proven a lot more than Isco has. I've no doubt that Isco can go onto bigger and better things, but there's some overreacting in this thread.
 
Kid Cunto said:
Is he really though? Silva's had a poor season, but he's proven a lot more than Isco has. I've no doubt that Isco can go onto bigger and better things, but there's some overreacting in this thread.
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I think he might have been being tongue in cheek about Silva. I hope so, anyway. I think Isco has astonishing potential, to be one of the best players in the world even. But at the moment Silva is obviously better, having done it at a much higher level for much longer.
 
Isco's good and has potential, but as far as I'm concerned I don't see him coming into the Premier League and taking it by storm next season. Should he sign with City, that is.
 
I'm talking about him being fantastic for Malaga for a whole season and not just half a season. It was a thinly veiled dig at Silva starting off well then fading badly in the second half of the season.

Anyways, sometimes you just get a feeling about a player and I think, by the time he hits his peak, Isco will be the best player of his generation.
 
Everest Red said:
Why should I? I follow United and catch a few CL games I am content with it. I don't have enough time to find and watch Malaga's games. Plus, people have been wrong about these prospects more than they've been right.
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Well if you did you might understand that he has been doing this for well over a year at Malaga. He hasn't just burst onto the scene he has had a fantastic season. As I alluded to in my previous post, every Premier League meathead has now caught a glimpse of his outrageous talent and decided he tickles their inner muppet.

I'm not saying you needed to watch him, just that if you had you might understand that his talent has been recognised for a good while. And I don't think you need to worry about this prospect...he is the real deal.
 
He's not actually going to sign for City is he?
 
Sam said:
He's not actually going to sign for City is he?
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I hope not. He'll be to them what Ronaldo was to us. Hope he goes to Madrid, or better yet someone at United realises that with Nani going, Rooney possibly going and Zaha with a lot still to learn, that we aren't blessed with technically gifted players and recognise that this Isco lad is a fantastic talent and maybe, just maybe we could spend about 25-30 mill on him.
 
C'mon Kiddo, at least try to figure out what I mean. Hypothetically speaking if he goes there, he will go there as an exceptionally talented young player who is already a level (or two) above most promising young players of his age and with time develop into one of the best players in the world. Just like Ronaldo did with us. Hence me saying ''he'll be to them what Ronaldo was to us'' an amazing youngster with lots of potential who turned out to be a world beater.

I've said it before, sometimes you just watch a player and you know, you know?
 
It's impossible to know if Isco will fire City to Champions League glory whilst winning the Ballon d'Or.
 
That's a bit misleading, tbf. Yes Ronaldo won the Ballon d'Or but only as a consequence of winning the Champions league and he didn't do that on his own, he had a brilliant team around him.
What I'm saying is that with Isco's ability he could easily be as important to City as Ronaldo was to us and yes he could quite conceivably be a member of a Champions league winning team and win a Ballon d'Or, IF he's lucky enough to have a team around him that was as good as the one Ronaldo was in.

People bang on about how much Ronaldo has improved as a player since he left United and it might well be true but he's won feck all compared to his time at United and that is no coincidence. The team he was in then would piss all over the current Madrid team.
 
Isco will never replicate what Ronaldo has for Man Utd even if he had the same or a better team around him.He is a great talent but he isn't that great, Ronaldo is a special player, more than "1" ballon d'Or winner for me even if the facts prove me wrong.
ps: I just wrote this in general and not to counter another caftard's opinion.Just to be clear
 
Even if we somehow changed our minds, we are too late anyway. The other two clubs have buttered him up for weeks before the u-21 and one has his respected former manager working for it whilst the other is one of the two big clubs in Spain.
 
charleysurf said:
Vincente and Joaquin were going to be as well.
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Vicente was well on the way but suffered appalling injuries throughout his time at Valencia. Joaquin was never ever talented enough. Isco has more talent than either of them.
 
["Kid Cunto, post: 13660783, member: 48866"]Why would he choose City over Madrid?[/quote]

Probably money (lots of it)
Though im sure the spin they put out would be about trusting pellagrini and wanting to play for him.
I hope he goes to madrid as it makes them either less likely to go for bale or more likely to flog Ronaldo if they do go for bale
 
Vicente was fecking awesome! One of my favorite wingers ever. Such a shame about the injuries.
 
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