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Not sure if it is official or not but would be very strange of ANI to say "Government Sources" without someone from the Government giving any info.ANI speaking about vested interests
I mean, I wouldn't give much importance to what the government or its sources say to save face on the matter.
But the disclaimer to not believe 'vested interests' given the BJP/government has the biggest vested interest here and has proven to be the most effective spreader of misinformation and propaganda.
I was at the Mumbai rally. Good numbers- organisers are saying 50k, it felt like 30 at least. Also, thanks to the Sena (+Cong/NCP) govt, no problem with the police, they were there but not interfering. Lots of slogans aimed at Modi (lots of "chowkidaar chor hai", and some "Modi-Shah Quit India"). The usual azaadi: Modi-Shah, manuvad, bhookhmari se, aur aurato ki azaadi. Lots of people talking about/carrying constitution/preamble.
For the awful part - who came? Liberal or leftist educated rich people like me (mostly academics and students), and lots of Muslims. The only ordinary non-Muslims were CPI/CPM/union cadre and a small handful of Congress workers. I think 90-95% of the people there weren't Modi supporters since before 2014, so nothing new was added. Maybe some of the younger students were new.*
The class/education divide was so visible in the westernised posters of the liberals -"I hate big bhakts and I cannot lie", "CAB is so bad even the introverts are here" and some more with strong cringe, compared to the straightforward ones from everyone else (no to cab, secular india, no to fascism, lots of modi-hitler). There had been stuff on social media that the new call at protests was going to be Allahu Akbar but this was all strictly secular, which was nice.
Some ironies - one of the speakers Eknath Gaikwad from Congress, was mentioned in the report on the 92-93 riots because he led a mob to a police station to free Sainiks who had been locked up for burning some Muslims. And of course the chief irony of a Sena govt allowing this. There was a poster thanking Uddhav next to a poster of Arundhati Roy.
Still, I have to say - the azaadi chant is great, electrifying.
*On my facebook, i'm surprised- only 1 person is for CAB, and quite a few apolitical people and 1 bhakt are saying things against it. maybe some small percent of young people are changing their minds.
For the awful part - who came? Liberal or leftist educated rich people like me (mostly academics and students), and lots of Muslims. The only ordinary non-Muslims were CPI/CPM/union cadre and a small handful of Congress workers. I think 90-95% of the people there weren't Modi supporters since before 2014, so nothing new was added. Maybe some of the younger students were new.*
The class/education divide was so visible in the westernised posters of the liberals -"I hate big bhakts and I cannot lie", "CAB is so bad even the introverts are here" and some more with strong cringe, compared to the straightforward ones from everyone else (no to cab, secular india, no to fascism, lots of modi-hitler). There had been stuff on social media that the new call at protests was going to be Allahu Akbar but this was all strictly secular, which was nice.
Some ironies - one of the speakers Eknath Gaikwad from Congress, was mentioned in the report on the 92-93 riots because he led a mob to a police station to free Sainiks who had been locked up for burning some Muslims. And of course the chief irony of a Sena govt allowing this. There was a poster thanking Uddhav next to a poster of Arundhati Roy.
Still, I have to say - the azaadi chant is great, electrifying.
*On my facebook, i'm surprised- only 1 person is for CAB, and quite a few apolitical people and 1 bhakt are saying things against it. maybe some small percent of young people are changing their minds.
Better watch out, you'll be declared as an urban naxal and thrown into jail on trumped up charges.
If those reports are true, how exactly are they a laughing matter?
Laughing matter in the sense it's tried and tested diversion tactic which couldn't go wrong.
Glad to see responses to that tweet which shows people can clearly see through their bs.
Fair enough, the diversion tactics are evident, it's just sad that people have to get killed over political agendas.
Thanks for this update. No violence then at this really? I'm not surprised violence ensued at the placed where police where under the orders of the BJP.
Yep exactly. Went to the one in Delhi at Jantar Mantar and felt the same way.
That's the one shame. That the core Hindu base isn't seeming affected.
I was there too. There were a lot of signs in Hindi as well so I felt it was a decent mix. But I do feel 16:30 on a weekday did limit the sort of crowd we got.
Modi - Rioters can be identified from their clothes.
you'll recognize them by the clothes... And also the bewildered frown on their face.I've read in many places in social media that even liberal educated people are openly stating their hatred for Muslims.
Out of interest, what specific complaints do they have?
shit's getting worse out there going by few reports.
Nagpur
My hindi is terrible bro! Need subtitles for bollywood movies
Any VDO's in English? Or Can you recommend me an English speaking TV station or YouTube page covering this?
Stone gang in fake skullcap held by Murshidabad police
A youth known locally as a BJP worker and five associates, each of them in lungi and skullcap, were detained by Murshidabad police on Wednesday after local people allegedly caught them throwing stones at a train engine. Chief minister Mamata Banerjee on Thursday alleged, without mentioning this incident, that the BJP was buying skullcaps for its workers to wear while going on the rampage to try and deflect blame on a particular community.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi had on Sunday said the protesters against the Citizenship (Amendment) Act could be “identified by their clothes”. Officers in Murshidabad said that residents of Radhamadhabtala village had caught and handed over the six youths after seeing them throwing stones at a Sealdah-bound trial engine travelling on the Sealdah-Lalgola line. They said the six included Abhishek Sarkar, 21, a local BJP worker. “The youths claimed they had worn lungis and skullcaps for the sake of a video they were shooting for their YouTube channel. But they could not prove the existence of any such channel,” district police chief Mukesh said.
Radhamadhabtala residents said Abhishek, who lives in neighbouring Srisnagar, was seen at the forefront of all local BJP rallies. “We became suspicious when we saw the youths change their clothes near the railway line,” a villager said on Thursday. “We knew Abhishek as he is very vocal about his views. So we decided to confront them.”
Sources said a seventh member of the group fled after being accosted. The other six were being questioned at Behrampore police station on Thursday. Local BJP sources confirmed that Sarkar was a party worker but BJP district president Gouri Sankar Ghosh said: “He is not a member of our party. We don’t know anything about the incident in Radhamadhabtala.”
In Calcutta, Mamata told a rally on Rani Rashmoni Avenue: “On Friday, we have a protest meeting at Park Circus after the prayers. I request everybody to maintain peace.” She added: “Don’t fall into the BJP’s trap. They are trying very hard to turn this into a fight between Hindus and Muslims, when it’s anything but…. We have received intelligence that the BJP has been buying skullcaps for its workers. They are wearing them to get photographed and filmed while vandalising public property… to malign a community. “I urge our younger generation not to believe everything they see on social media. The BJP has been misusing the crores at its disposal to spread fake news and videos to incite violence and hatred.” A Radhamadhabtala resident said the Sealdah-Lalgola tracks passing through the village had been a site of tensions last weekend. “We ensured calm after much struggle this week, and cannot tolerate such negative intentions,” he added, alluding to the six detained youths.
https://www.telegraphindia.com/stat...&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tt_daily_twit
A youth known locally as a BJP worker and five associates, each of them in lungi and skullcap, were detained by Murshidabad police on Wednesday after local people allegedly caught them throwing stones at a train engine. Chief minister Mamata Banerjee on Thursday alleged, without mentioning this incident, that the BJP was buying skullcaps for its workers to wear while going on the rampage to try and deflect blame on a particular community.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi had on Sunday said the protesters against the Citizenship (Amendment) Act could be “identified by their clothes”. Officers in Murshidabad said that residents of Radhamadhabtala village had caught and handed over the six youths after seeing them throwing stones at a Sealdah-bound trial engine travelling on the Sealdah-Lalgola line. They said the six included Abhishek Sarkar, 21, a local BJP worker. “The youths claimed they had worn lungis and skullcaps for the sake of a video they were shooting for their YouTube channel. But they could not prove the existence of any such channel,” district police chief Mukesh said.
Radhamadhabtala residents said Abhishek, who lives in neighbouring Srisnagar, was seen at the forefront of all local BJP rallies. “We became suspicious when we saw the youths change their clothes near the railway line,” a villager said on Thursday. “We knew Abhishek as he is very vocal about his views. So we decided to confront them.”
Sources said a seventh member of the group fled after being accosted. The other six were being questioned at Behrampore police station on Thursday. Local BJP sources confirmed that Sarkar was a party worker but BJP district president Gouri Sankar Ghosh said: “He is not a member of our party. We don’t know anything about the incident in Radhamadhabtala.”
In Calcutta, Mamata told a rally on Rani Rashmoni Avenue: “On Friday, we have a protest meeting at Park Circus after the prayers. I request everybody to maintain peace.” She added: “Don’t fall into the BJP’s trap. They are trying very hard to turn this into a fight between Hindus and Muslims, when it’s anything but…. We have received intelligence that the BJP has been buying skullcaps for its workers. They are wearing them to get photographed and filmed while vandalising public property… to malign a community. “I urge our younger generation not to believe everything they see on social media. The BJP has been misusing the crores at its disposal to spread fake news and videos to incite violence and hatred.” A Radhamadhabtala resident said the Sealdah-Lalgola tracks passing through the village had been a site of tensions last weekend. “We ensured calm after much struggle this week, and cannot tolerate such negative intentions,” he added, alluding to the six detained youths.
https://www.telegraphindia.com/stat...&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tt_daily_twit
My hindi is terrible bro! Need subtitles for bollywood movies
Any VDO's in English? Or Can you recommend me an English speaking TV station or YouTube page covering this?
There is no other comprehensive alternative as far as i know. You can make do without the audio parts.
Sort of been reported. The bakhts are saying it's a setup because Mamata talked about it the day before
Educated yes. Liberal no.
The Indian mainstream media is a farce. I went to get a haircut yesterday and they were running news on Aaj Tak. And mostly they were yapping about how the cops were consummate in their behaviour, using force only as a last resort once violent protestors lost the plot, and not committing any brutality.
Edit: Sorry the above was for other locations.
Multiple reports last night of lathi-charge, water cannons, people getting detained left right and centre.
The CAA gives accelerated citizenship to the minorities from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan. It doesn't deny citizenship to anyone. A lot of confusion regarding this amongst the people (blindly) protesting against it.