India politics thread

I hate corrupt politicians as they undermine everything else. Mayawati and Mamta are the ultimate trash in Indian politics. Not really a fan of either, but I'd take him over Mayawati.

Out of mayawati, akhilesh and Yogi mayawatis adminstration was best actually.

I think her Pr is bad but she got work done particularly on infrastructure and law and order.

Yogi is just a bigot and equally arrogant. Akhilesh was better at pr than both but even he was better.
 
I hate corrupt politicians as they undermine everything else. Mayawati and Mamta are the ultimate trash in Indian politics. Not really a fan of either, but I'd take him over Mayawati.
You assume that the govt officials hate corrupt leaders. I remember during the days of CBN in AP before 2004, the govt officials were frustrated with all the sudden visits, accountability checks and all the nonsense CBN govt used to do to make them work harder. Many were waiting for 2004 to oust CBN.
I even remember a conductor in transport bus publicly asking people to vote for Congress.
 
I think you are too optimistic about a non-BJP front. BSP and SP only joined hands because BJP alone was decimating them. BJP is a non factor in TN, so AIADMK and DML would never be part of the same alliance at center. Similarly, I don't buy CPM and TMC being part of the same Govt either even if the CPM is supporting from 'outside'. AAP would never join a Congress led center. YSR and TDP would never be part of same alliance at center at this stage.

Yes, I think there's a very good chance that the AIADMK, TRS, and YSR Congress will support BJP (for ADMK, I've already put estimated 20 seats of theirs into BJP's total).
I do think AAP and CPM will give outside support to a Congress coalition.

The point about different voting for state and central elections is a good one, and would finish the opposition if it happens. Certainly in Bihar 2015 a lot of reports said this is what voters were saying.
 
Yes, I think there's a very good chance that the AIADMK, TRS, and YSR Congress will support BJP (for ADMK, I've already put estimated 20 seats of theirs into BJP's total).
I do think AAP and CPM will give outside support to a Congress coalition.

The point about different voting for state and central elections is a good one, and would finish the opposition if it happens. Certainly in Bihar 2015 a lot of reports said this is what voters were saying.

Kerela section of CPM was already unhappy during UPA 1 days when they were supporting Congress from the outside. Bengal section would blew a lid if they support a Govt with TMC as an integral partner and with key ministries. Even if Yechury prevails and gets them to support such a coaltion at the start, it would never last since TMC would absolutely use their influence at the center to firm up their position in Bengal. Only hope of CPM regaining their lost relevance is to capture Bengal again, they would not sacrifice the same, just to keep Modi out of power.
 
Except Rajasthan, aren't they guaranteed to sweep pretty much rest of it.

SS will not go with Congress. TRS will probably go with NDA as well.

At the moment the answer is no. Don't follow the mainstream media.
 
Kerela section of CPM was already unhappy during UPA 1 days when they were supporting Congress from the outside. Bengal section would blew a lid if they support a Govt with TMC as an integral partner and with key ministries. Even if Yechury prevails and gets them to support such a coaltion at the start, it would never last since TMC would absolutely use their influence at the center to firm up their position in Bengal. Only hope of CPM regaining their lost relevance is to capture Bengal again, they would not sacrifice the same, just to keep Modi out of power.

CPM is almost certainly going to be 3rd in Bengal even in voteshare, and their remaining (mostly Hindu) voters and leaders are defecting to BJP. Before this they had lost all their organisation and cadre to TMC. They are finished in Bengal.

There is a big gap between the central leadership, Bengal unit, and Kerala unit now. Yechury and his faction, who are slowly gaining control of the party from Karat, are pro-alliance. In CPM, MPs directly defying a command from the central leadership is unusual. I don't think they'll stay neutral in a confidence vote.
 
377 gone finally. Welcome India to 21st century.
 
"Majoritarian views and popular morality cannot dictate constitutional rights" - nice quote from the judgement.

This would have happened back in 2013 if we set up a proper five judge bench instead of leaving it to just one guy.
 
His views on this really surprised the hell out of me. Moreso because of his educational background.

Let's be honest here, his views on everything were not that of a person of educational background.
 
Outgoing CJI Misra will be remembered as a legend
Was the protest by congress and left against him only? When they wanted to impeach him or something?

Or was it someone else?
 
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All the judgements of the judges here. Very, very good judgements.

Outgoing CJI Misra will be remembered as a legend.

Legend? Not sure about that.

Justice chandrachud is where it's at for liberal judgements.

Remember before becoming Cji Justice Mishra gave that national anthem order and also upheld criminal defamation.

Read this -

https://m.huffingtonpost.in/nirmit-...-anthem-in-movie-halls-has-a-hist_a_21662502/

But he became much more liberal after becoming Cji. Maybe Justice chandrachud rubbed off on him or it was the pressure?

It has been quite a contentious tenure as cji as well including some precedents and finality of judgements being broken especially in bcci matters and that Prasad education trust case. Even other judges rebelling etc.. but has given some good judgements also like Delhi vs centre etc. Right to privacy, triple talaq and now this amongst others.
 
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Was the protest by congress and left against him only? When they wanted to impeach him or something?

Or was it someone else?

Wanted to impeach him as they think govt. Was blackmailing him and he was under pressure for 3/4 cases.
 
And the Babri Masjid case if I am not mistaken

Aadhar and sabarimala too remember. Also adultery becoming gender neutral and also reservation in promotion and chargesheeted mps/mlas case.

These all will get judgements. Don't think ayodhya will get so soon. What judgwment is reserved is whether to refer to constitution bench.

Oh there's order on live streaming of court proceedings too which can be huge.
 
Was the protest by congress and left against him only? When they wanted to impeach him or something?

Or was it someone else?
Him only.

Excellent news! Really groundbreaking when you consider everything.


What were his views?
Well you know what to do if you want that kind of info:D
 
That's one case I would have no problem delaying forever until everyone just forgets about it.

I know about Babri Masjid, what does the upcoming case concern?
 
I know about Babri Masjid, what does the upcoming case concern?
Land dispute of the Babri masjid site. But petitioners have also asked for review of previous order on fundamentals of Islam. Whether it will be or not that judgements is reserved.

Doubt we will get final order during the next month on anything more than that.
 
What's 377?

Law introduced by British which criminalised homosexual sex with consent and even in private.

It's finally gone today after a long battle.
 
Ahh that's good to here.

It's just a start though. In the Asian subcontinent countries, the stigma attached to being gay is also far too high. It'd take a long battle ahead to change the views of majority of people.
 
It's just a start though. As you'd know, in our countries, the stigma attached to being gay is also far too high. It'd take a long battle ahead to change the views of majority of people.

I think the law being changed should help a lot, it's a good starting point but ultimately we need to educate our population and expose them to other cultures and people. That's the only way to eradicate homophobia and racism. But like 2cents posted in the pakistan thread, that the abuse ahmadis got increased after the law against them so hoping this has an opposite effect.