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One of the biggest blunders ever made in Indian history. A disgrace of a decision.
 
No one cares about demonetization. Only the poor got fecked over but they're thinking only the rich suffered which is hardly the ground reality. I don't think this issue single handedly is of much help to the opposition.
 
VidaRed said:
No one cares about demonetization. Only the poor got fecked over but they're thinking only the rich suffered which is hardly the ground reality. I don't think this issue single handedly is of much help to the opposition.
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The opposition is too weak or too disjointed to make use of anything. Besides it does help BJP that the most vocal opposition leaders are Ra Ga (declared fool), Didi (declared half-crazy), Mayawati (Corrupt power monger) and AK (Anti-national, anarchist) and leaders from South (who cares a damn about south)

Edit: If the opposition had any plans to topple Modi in 2019, they would have been on the roads with the LPG cylinders and cycles bringing attention to rising petrol prices.
 
VidaRed said:
No one cares about demonetization. Only the poor got fecked over but they're thinking only the rich suffered which is hardly the ground reality. I don't think this issue single handedly is of much help to the opposition.
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It should be. The poor make up the majority of the nation. As you rightly said, they're the ones which get fecked.
 
VidaRed said:
No one cares about demonetization. Only the poor got fecked over but they're thinking only the rich suffered which is hardly the ground reality. I don't think this issue single handedly is of much help to the opposition.
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KM said:
It should be. The poor make up the majority of the nation. As you rightly said, they're the ones which get fecked.
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Vida is right. During UP elections, ground reporting showed that poor folks were in favor demonitization because they though it has hurt the rich responsible for their state. It actually did hurt a sizable porting of BJP vote base in traders and small business owners but they bit the bullet and voted for them anyway. Even in GE, the poor are still unlikely to vote against BJP due to demonetization, but I have heard that some in BJP's traditional vote base are still grumpy about it.
 
The fact that Modi and his supporters don't really mention demonetisation much anywhere is a sign of how big a disaster it was
 
crappycraperson said:
Yet to be proven and by some electoral estimates it helped them win UP.
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It undoubtedly won them the UP elections however as the time has gone on and there hasn't been literally one single benefit of it shows what a poor decision it was.

The proper chronological order of the decision should have been(if there was even a need of demonitization) it should have been GST to EwayBill to Demon.
 
crappycraperson said:
Vida is right. During UP elections, ground reporting showed that poor folks were in favor demonitization because they though it has hurt the rich responsible for their state. It actually did hurt a sizable porting of BJP vote base in traders and small business owners but they bit the bullet and voted for them anyway. Even in GE, the poor are still unlikely to vote against BJP due to demonetization, but I have heard that some in BJP's traditional vote base are still grumpy about it.
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Most of the businessmen I know who were staunch BJP supporters have turned against them.
 
When the people who approved it still don't know what the whole exercise was for, of course it's a blunder. An expensive one, for which me and you will pay for.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
At best this can be termed as not useful, but a blunder is ott reaction.
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So are you denying the rural business sector which was very much cash driven has not been harmed at all. Or for that matter daily wages folks.
Or are you saying it does not matter because the urban crowd were only inconvenienced.

And the whole exercise put in a severe cash crunch and the govt had to spend a lot of money on printing the notes and making every ATM compatible to dispense the notes.
And as of Aug 23, 2018, there are 18125 ATMs of SBI bank alone that still cant dispense the new notes. And SBI has already spent 22.5 crores on recalibrating the ATMs.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...ew-notes-reveals-rti/articleshow/65518523.cms

Not to mention that the banks put severe restrictions on cash withdrawal as they were shortage of cash, eroding public confidence in banking system that their money was available for withdrawal whenever in need.
 
KM said:
Most of the businessmen I know who were staunch BJP supporters have turned against them.
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That's what I thought.. You always think the business class was for BJP but demon basically wrecked them..

Don't know about other states but here in the villages there is palpable anger against it..
 
fishfingers15 said:
NRI's will never understand the impact, including me.
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Not really. It's not as if we are that disconnected. None of my family back in India would agree it was failure, tbh. Or even extended family. Most of my friends think it was not as effective, but still a good initiative. Modi is seen as someone willing to act, which is a big change from Congress.

Two sides of the coin.
 
harshad said:
Its hard to call it a blunder if BJP still ends up winning the GE next year. I hope they don't get the majority.
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Elections are not fought on one policy.
Besides, opposition is so weak that they can't capitalize on any slip ups by the BJP.

Besides, BJP is doing enough hard work to make people forget things like demonetization and increasing fuel prices and fight amongst themselves or be worried about Hindu population going down.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Not really. It's not as if we are that disconnected. None of my family back in India would agree it was failure, tbh. Or even extended family. Most of my friends think it was not as effective, but still a good initiative. Modi is seen as someone willing to act, which is a big change from Congress.

Two sides of the coin.
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All of it is really based on perception though. Almost like how a stock market works. He has drummed up his name and brand enough for people to even doubt him now.
 
KM said:
It undoubtedly won them the UP elections however as the time has gone on and there hasn't been literally one single benefit of it shows what a poor decision it was.

The proper chronological order of the decision should have been(if there was even a need of demonitization) it should have been GST to EwayBill to Demon.
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Oh I thought you wrote political decision as in terms of benefit to the politcal party. Yes, in terms of a public policy decision, it has been really really bad.
 
coolredwine said:
Think the recent arrests were a smokescreen.
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So obviously. The so called secret letters put out by the Pune police looked like something an amateur detective story writer would put. It had the names of all the people they wanted to arrest with initials and all, just appending the word "comrade" before every name, as if maoists are fools to not use any code names or anything.
Then it makes another clean paragraph blaming Modi as a fascist and some nonsense.
 
RedDevil@84 said:
Elections are not fought on one policy.
Besides, opposition is so weak that they can't capitalize on any slip ups by the BJP.

Besides, BJP is doing enough hard work to make people forget things like demonetization and increasing fuel prices and fight amongst themselves or be worried about Hindu population going down.
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Bad state of economy and inflation will hurt BJP no matter what. General populace does not care about ruppe dollar ratio but eventually rising fuel prices will push up prices of basic commodities and that can sink Modi for sure.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Hell, there are so many things wrong with our banking system that makes Demon really insignificant.
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Yes, but Demon was not intended to make our banking systems any more efficient. The basis on which the whole banking system (at least for a layman) is that you put money in your account and that money is safe and available for withdrawal whenever needed.

If you cant withdraw at will, then one would as well put it in their house.
 
Still maintain if Congress could get rid of that clown and get someone else, they could turn out to be decent competitors but they won't so...
 
crappycraperson said:
Bad state of economy and inflation will hurt BJP no matter what. General populace does not care about ruppe dollar ratio but eventually rising fuel prices will push up prices of basic commodities and that can sink Modi for sure.
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Which is where Hinduism is in danger, the commies in Kerala are eating beef and such stuff come in.
As mentioned in Gangs of Wasseypur movie, jab tak cinema hain, log chu***a bane rahenge

Similary, "Dharm khatre mein hain" is a strong ch**yapa
 
crappycraperson said:
Bad state of economy and inflation will hurt BJP no matter what. General populace does not care about ruppe dollar ratio but eventually rising fuel prices will push up prices of basic commodities and that can sink Modi for sure.
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I'd be very very surprised if BJP didn't cut the petrol rates by a big margin right before 2019.
 
KM said:
I'd be very very surprised if BJP didn't cut the petrol rates by a big margin right before 2019.
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Thats the idea. I remember last time in 2014, the vegetable prices were an all time low. So much that in common market, the sellers refused to allow people to select tomatoes. You had to take minimum 2 kgs.
Didnt help Congress though.
All the middlemen are controlled by politicians
 
Well atleast it gave birth to one of my favorite memes ever.

For hindi speakers only. Also NSFW.

 
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