ICC World T20 2016

Dhoni was having a laugh in the end. Basically said that we lost due to the toss and conditions. The bowling was garbage. Pandaya's 18 runs over and that Jadeja's 6 misfield cost us the match.

I think he war right about the dew factor. It's a shit toss to lose. Remember one of the matches in South Africa when the WC was held there. If you bat second, the ball swung so much that you'll definitely lose. Jimmy Anderson got Youhana with an absolute howitzer.

That's not fair IMO. Toss shouldn't decide matches. Of course, there were plenty of chances for India to win, but if dew wasn't there, it wasn't a close match. Other stuff about Dhoni, agreed.
 
You can still point out to obvious mistakes made. Like the 2 no balls along with the catch which then got called a six.

The no ball from Ashwin was inexcusable, no doubt. My point though was that WI were well ahead even if the first catch off Simmons was legal.
 
Who is this majority you experience? Cause they ain't in this thread, unless I've missed something huge it's purely been the Indians who fancied themselves.
I've rarely read this thread dude, or cricket on this forum in general.
Cricket forums around the net are a bigger reflection. English fans in general anywhere really, doesnt take much for you lot to get all giddy. Anyway like I said, you shouldn't be bothered if you aren't one of them.
 
uh, I didn't blame the toss for that.

We'd have lost even if someone else had bowled instead of Pandya(who?). The no balls maybe, but that's the nature of the game. You can't say "we'd have won if not for no balls".

Ashwin was getting smashed. Jadeja got smashed. We were 8 overs light on that pitch even if you had another bowler instead of Pandya.

If WI had bowled second, they'd ahve gotten smashed in a similar way.
I didn't mean you, I meant Dhoni. Also, you don't know how wickets would affect a match. It is bizarre to say that if we had got their top scorer out for around 20, it would not have been a closer (if not a different result) game.
 
The no ball from Ashwin was inexcusable, no doubt. My point though was that WI were well ahead even if the first catch off Simmons was legal.
You don't know that. A wicket can be a turning point in a match, let alone one when they were still trying to get a partnership going.
 
I've rarely read this thread dude, or cricket on this forum in general.
Cricket forums around the net are a bigger reflection. English fans in general anywhere really, doesnt take much for you lot to get all giddy. Anyway like I said, you shouldn't be bothered if you aren't one of them.
I'm not so much bothered as surprised. I can't say I browse cricket forums, so you may well be right.
 
Which, dare I say it, may well have been more use if it meant Kohli facing more balls or your lower order hitters that didn't get a knock having a look in.

I think being honest 193 was enough. They just played better.
 
I've rarely read this thread dude, or cricket on this forum in general.
Cricket forums around the net are a bigger reflection. English fans in general anywhere really, doesnt take much for you lot to get all giddy. Anyway like I said, you shouldn't be bothered if you aren't one of them.

Giddy, yes, but mostly people just react to moderate success with never-ending sarcasm.
 
You don't know that. A wicket can be a turning point in a match, let alone one when they were still trying to get a partnership going.

You can't know for sure in a what-if scenario. But on a Wankhede flat track? The odds were definitely in their favor. They would have had to choke like SA at that point for India to win.
 
You can't know for sure in a what-if scenario. But on a Wankhede flat track? The odds were definitely in their favor. They would have had to choke at that point for India to win.
At that point? They were 50-2 at that stage with the reqd RR still close to 12. A wicket then would have been huge.
 
The no ball from Ashwin was inexcusable, no doubt. My point though was that WI were well ahead even if the first catch off Simmons was legal.

Not really. 49/3 at that stage would make a huge difference going by what followed. That partnership with Charles was hugely important and Simmons went on to anchor the win.
 
This is the best England team I've seen in my lifetime. Bowling is a bit meh but batting wise it's very anti-English to what everyone's used to. Should be a good game
 
I think being honest 193 was enough. They just played better.
They played better because our bowlers had no clue how to bowl on a flat track. One would think with all the experience they have had having been brought up on flat tracks, they would have known how to mix it up.
 
I think being honest 193 was enough. They just played better.
Exactly, can't blame the batsmen. On a flat track, it always boils down to whose batsmen can hit harder
 
As was said. match was over from We won the toss. Even when gayle pressed the self destruct button i had full confidence we would slug the Indian bowlers with this small pitch. Good win for west indies and sets up a great rematch for the finals!
 
I still cant believe how bad we bowled. Conceded a boundary or more nearly every over. Poor from Dhoni too. Allowing Pandya to not only bowl but bowl trash.
 
it won't be easy chasing at Eden Gardens. It will be a very different final I think, and Root might just make the difference if England chase.
 
You make your own luck. I really wanted India (us) to win but West Indies were brave and it's hard to dislike or hate. They fully deserve it. Now hopefully they will smash England in the finals. But highly doubt it.
 
At that point? They were 50-2 at that stage with the reqd RR still close to 12. A wicket then would have been huge.
Indeed. A wicket then would have very likely meant Ashwin bowled out 4 overs at a stretch.

The lack of wicket for spinners at that stage was a huge factor in the eventual outcome
 
I love WW's arrogance though. Don't even bother running or panicking. 3 dot balls? No worries, will hit the next two for six. All while Kohli was running his ass of like a madman. They were probably laughing at him:lol:
 
I still cant believe how bad we bowled. Conceded a boundary or more nearly every over. Poor from Dhoni too. Allowing Pandya to not only bowl but bowl trash.
He only bowls trash. He doesn't know any way else to bowl. So letting him in the bowl in the first place itself is wrong.
 
I still cant believe how bad we bowled. Conceded a boundary or more nearly every over. Poor from Dhoni too. Allowing Pandya to not only bowl but bowl trash.

Typical Dhoni arrogance. He was proud of the shit final over tactics against Bangla where Pandya got away with bowling absolute tripe. Since then that's all Pandya has bowled
 
This is the best England team I've seen in my lifetime. Bowling is a bit meh but batting wise it's very anti-English to what everyone's used to. Should be a good game
Nah it's got nothing on the one that revolved around Cook, Strauss, Trott, Broad, Anderson and Swann. That was class.
 
I love WW's arrogance though. Don't even bother running or panicking. 3 dot balls? No worries, will hit the next two for six. All while Kohli was running his ass of like a madman. They were probably laughing at him:lol:
Yeah, for a flat track, you don't need to be technically superior, just a hard hitting batsman. Had it been a challenging wicket, this WI side has struggled (vs SA, Afg)
 
This is the best England team I've seen in my lifetime. Bowling is a bit meh but batting wise it's very anti-English to what everyone's used to. Should be a good game

I think this England team is pretty ordinary

The one that one the WC was good.

This one has crap bowling and okay to alright batting.
 
I think being honest 193 was enough. They just played better.

The only total successfully defended here this tournament has been 209 by SA vs Afghanistan (and even then Afghanistan were more than in the game for most of it, if they had the batting depth of full members they probably would have won). 180 was chased easy, 229 easily, and 193 today.

Definitely not enough on the board for me