I was wrong about Casemiro

I’ll join in.

Although I didn’t doubt his quality, I thought he came to us to cash in and retire. It appears I was wrong, and I couldn’t be happier about it.

Excellent footballer. I hope he sticks around for a few years and that he gets to be part of turning the tide for Manchester United
 
I too was wrong about casemiro - now Im hoping we can get 5 years out of him. Hes a roll royce of a player. Unbelievably good.
 
Great player. Quality and a proper old school leader.

If we were to win a title in the next 2 or 3 years it will be down to him. A bit like when Cantona came.
 
Couldn't believe people doubted him when he was joining. Only suggests you wouldn't have watched him, he's been one of the best midfielders in the world for a while now, and his biggest qualities were filling a role we haven't replaced since Roy Keane.
 
Couldn't believe people doubted him when he was joining. Only suggests you wouldn't have watched him, he's been one of the best midfielders in the world for a while now, and his biggest qualities were filling a role we haven't replaced since Roy Keane.
I didn't doubt his quality, but rather how these signings usually turn out for us as a result of lacking the minimal structure you'd expect from a Premier League side. At the time I just couldn't fathom how quickly ETH would turn that around.
 
Getting burnt by Schweinsteiger made me a bit apprehensive of Casemiro on such a huge fee.

It’s early to judge but so far he’s everything I wanted out of him performance wise and then some.
 
ETH on Casemiro: We definitely have the right player. I am delighted for this team to have him. He is raising the limits for Manchester United.

 
I hold my hands up and admit it.

I initially thought Casemiro was a glamour signing to appease the fans after the Arnautovic and Rabiot debacle earlier in the summer transfer window, a player on a steady decline. How wrong I was!

He is literally the CEMENT in our midfield which holds it all together and has given us something we have really lacked in that department for years. Credit to Ten Hag who must have encouraged the club to jump on this opportunity when it presented itself.

10 lashes. That's the cost of shooting your mouth off prematurely
 
Like others on here,, I thought here we go, another Schweinstiger, Sanchez, DiMaria etc. When in fact he has been one of the best players signed since RVP. Hopefully he can keep injury free and his form for at least the next 2-3 seasons, and be the catalyst for a great TH era.
 
Truth is ETH has improved him as well. I know people will protest that comment but .. Bruno, Rashford, etc have all improved massively under him and Casemiro is no exception. His passing was never this good. I mean Bruno was the highest among the highest rated players in the World Cup…and was an occasional bench Warmer for Portugal when Eric came.. now he’s an undroppable.
 
He got this one wrong but Anthony seems to play eerily how he described he would...
You know I love you, professor, but, no, I’m not taking an L on this one. Midfielders as wasteful as him are not my cup of tea.

He reminds me of Veron’s time here. Capable of some brilliant moments, but is too wasteful for the majority of it. Difference is, Veron came into a world class midfield consisting of a world class Scholes and Keane, and a very dependable Butt (ooooooh, I say!). Casemiro has come into a dead midfield so anything good he does is over praised and anything bad - of which there’s a lot - is overlooked.

The only way Casemiro works is next to a midfielder capable of controlling games to the highest level. Those who can keep the ball under pressure because Casemiro cannot. Modic carried the Madrid midfield, Arthur carried the Brazil one where they actually won something. That’s why de Jong is a must.

On Antony, thanks for the nod. As I said, I liked Antony at Ajax - and still do - but he was not the type of right winger/forward we needed. We needed someone who could dribble to open up defences, and someone who could keep the ball under pressure so that when we play the ball into channels, we can actually keep it and pin teams back. Neither of which were Antony’s strengths.
 
You know I love you, professor, but, no, I’m not taking an L on this one. Midfielders as wasteful as him are not my cup of tea.

He reminds me of Veron’s time here. Capable of some brilliant moments, but is too wasteful for the majority of it. Difference is, Veron came into a world class midfield consisting of a world class Scholes and Keane, and a very dependable Butt (ooooooh, I say!). Casemiro has come into a dead midfield so anything good he does is over praised and anything bad - of which there’s a lot - is overlooked.

The only way Casemiro works is next to a midfielder capable of controlling games to the highest level. Those who can keep the ball under pressure because Casemiro cannot. Modic carried the Madrid midfield, Arthur carried the Brazil one where they actually won something. That’s why de Jong is a must.

On Antony, thanks for the nod. As I said, I liked Antony at Ajax - and still do - but he was not the type of right winger/forward we needed. We needed someone who could dribble to open up defences, and someone who could keep the ball under pressure so that when we play the ball into channels, we can actually keep it and pin teams back. Neither of which were Antony’s strengths.

De Jong is never leaving Barca so about time Erik accepts that and looks elsewhere
 
[bollocks]

Disappear for months and months, and NOW you come back. The absolute fecking state of you. :lol:

The exact same as @Amadaeus when he disappeared into thin air only only to resurface five minutes after we'd lost the Europa final to crow about Poch for some reason. You probably cheered every goal. Shame not one of them made you look less of a prat.
 
Disappear for months and months, and NOW you come back. The absolute fecking state of you. :lol:

The exact same as @Amadaeus when he disappeared into thin air only only to resurface five minutes after we'd lost the Europa final to crow about Poch for some reason. You probably cheered every goal. Shame not one of them made you look less of a prat.
:lol:
 
Disappear for months and months, and NOW you come back. The absolute fecking state of you. :lol:

The exact same as @Amadaeus when he disappeared into thin air only only to resurface five minutes after we'd lost the Europa final to crow about Poch for some reason. You probably cheered every goal. Shame not one of them made you look less of a prat.
Its hard to believe but there are genuinely some people who wish things going south for us. Like literally waiting with a post ready to go as soon as something goes wrong.

There are folks like these in the Varane thread, folks saying Mourinho/LvG better than EtH in the EtH thread and the last thread I expected to be bumped was this but alas!
 
Disappear for months and months, and NOW you come back. The absolute fecking state of you. :lol:

The exact same as @Amadaeus when he disappeared into thin air only only to resurface five minutes after we'd lost the Europa final to crow about Poch for some reason. You probably cheered every goal. Shame not one of them made you look less of a prat.
Thought he was banned for good
 
You know I love you, professor, but, no, I’m not taking an L on this one. Midfielders as wasteful as him are not my cup of tea.

He reminds me of Veron’s time here. Capable of some brilliant moments, but is too wasteful for the majority of it. Difference is, Veron came into a world class midfield consisting of a world class Scholes and Keane, and a very dependable Butt (ooooooh, I say!). Casemiro has come into a dead midfield so anything good he does is over praised and anything bad - of which there’s a lot - is overlooked.

The only way Casemiro works is next to a midfielder capable of controlling games to the highest level. Those who can keep the ball under pressure because Casemiro cannot. Modic carried the Madrid midfield, Arthur carried the Brazil one where they actually won something. That’s why de Jong is a must.

On Antony, thanks for the nod. As I said, I liked Antony at Ajax - and still do - but he was not the type of right winger/forward we needed. We needed someone who could dribble to open up defences, and someone who could keep the ball under pressure so that when we play the ball into channels, we can actually keep it and pin teams back. Neither of which were Antony’s strengths.
Hi Souness in disguise.
 
You know I love you, professor, but, no, I’m not taking an L on this one. Midfielders as wasteful as him are not my cup of tea.

He reminds me of Veron’s time here. Capable of some brilliant moments, but is too wasteful for the majority of it. Difference is, Veron came into a world class midfield consisting of a world class Scholes and Keane, and a very dependable Butt (ooooooh, I say!). Casemiro has come into a dead midfield so anything good he does is over praised and anything bad - of which there’s a lot - is overlooked.

The only way Casemiro works is next to a midfielder capable of controlling games to the highest level. Those who can keep the ball under pressure because Casemiro cannot. Modic carried the Madrid midfield, Arthur carried the Brazil one where they actually won something. That’s why de Jong is a must.

On Antony, thanks for the nod. As I said, I liked Antony at Ajax - and still do - but he was not the type of right winger/forward we needed. We needed someone who could dribble to open up defences, and someone who could keep the ball under pressure so that when we play the ball into channels, we can actually keep it and pin teams back. Neither of which were Antony’s strengths.

been waiting all season to post that haven’t you
 
Disappear for months and months, and NOW you come back. The absolute fecking state of you. :lol:

The exact same as @Amadaeus when he disappeared into thin air only only to resurface five minutes after we'd lost the Europa final to crow about Poch for some reason. You probably cheered every goal. Shame not one of them made you look less of a prat.
It's funny how he is doubling down on this ridiculous take and is using this game to come back into this thread as if he was always right about him. It's not like Madrid has ever lost to Barca 4-0 with both Modric and Kroos in the starting line up..... oh wait

Casemiro is a class player. You can only do so much when the other 9 outfield players have a meltdown collectively.
 
You know I love you, professor, but, no, I’m not taking an L on this one. Midfielders as wasteful as him are not my cup of tea.

He reminds me of Veron’s time here. Capable of some brilliant moments, but is too wasteful for the majority of it. Difference is, Veron came into a world class midfield consisting of a world class Scholes and Keane, and a very dependable Butt (ooooooh, I say!). Casemiro has come into a dead midfield so anything good he does is over praised and anything bad - of which there’s a lot - is overlooked.

The only way Casemiro works is next to a midfielder capable of controlling games to the highest level. Those who can keep the ball under pressure because Casemiro cannot. Modic carried the Madrid midfield, Arthur carried the Brazil one where they actually won something. That’s why de Jong is a must.

On Antony, thanks for the nod. As I said, I liked Antony at Ajax - and still do - but he was not the type of right winger/forward we needed. We needed someone who could dribble to open up defences, and someone who could keep the ball under pressure so that when we play the ball into channels, we can actually keep it and pin teams back. Neither of which were Antony’s strengths.
Did you actually wait for 2 months for a bad performance to bump this thread?
 
Its hard to believe but there are genuinely some people who wish things going south for us. Like literally waiting with a post ready to go as soon as something goes wrong.

There are folks like these in the Varane thread, folks saying Mourinho/LvG better than EtH in the EtH thread and the last thread I expected to be bumped was this but alas!
You can bet your house that this was saved as a draft for a long time and then just posted with a touch of modification. :lol:
 
Its hard to believe but there are genuinely some people who wish things going south for us. Like literally waiting with a post ready to go as soon as something goes wrong.

It's incredible. Most of these people claim to be United fans.

I'm one of the people who said we should sell Rashford, but I'll gladly see that thread bumped and look like a moron every week because that means he's scoring goals and Man Utd are winning games of football. Who gives a shit about being right about one thing on the internet in comparison.
 
You know I love you, professor, but, no, I’m not taking an L on this one. Midfielders as wasteful as him are not my cup of tea.

He reminds me of Veron’s time here. Capable of some brilliant moments, but is too wasteful for the majority of it. Difference is, Veron came into a world class midfield consisting of a world class Scholes and Keane, and a very dependable Butt (ooooooh, I say!). Casemiro has come into a dead midfield so anything good he does is over praised and anything bad - of which there’s a lot - is overlooked.

The only way Casemiro works is next to a midfielder capable of controlling games to the highest level. Those who can keep the ball under pressure because Casemiro cannot. Modic carried the Madrid midfield, Arthur carried the Brazil one where they actually won something. That’s why de Jong is a must.

On Antony, thanks for the nod. As I said, I liked Antony at Ajax - and still do - but he was not the type of right winger/forward we needed. We needed someone who could dribble to open up defences, and someone who could keep the ball under pressure so that when we play the ball into channels, we can actually keep it and pin teams back. Neither of which were Antony’s strengths.
Pathetic
 
Disappear for months and months, and NOW you come back. The absolute fecking state of you. :lol:

The exact same as @Amadaeus when he disappeared into thin air only only to resurface five minutes after we'd lost the Europa final to crow about Poch for some reason. You probably cheered every goal. Shame not one of them made you look less of a prat.
:lol: carnage
 
You know I love you, professor, but, no, I’m not taking an L on this one. Midfielders as wasteful as him are not my cup of tea.

He reminds me of Veron’s time here. Capable of some brilliant moments, but is too wasteful for the majority of it. Difference is, Veron came into a world class midfield consisting of a world class Scholes and Keane, and a very dependable Butt (ooooooh, I say!). Casemiro has come into a dead midfield so anything good he does is over praised and anything bad - of which there’s a lot - is overlooked.

The only way Casemiro works is next to a midfielder capable of controlling games to the highest level. Those who can keep the ball under pressure because Casemiro cannot. Modic carried the Madrid midfield, Arthur carried the Brazil one where they actually won something. That’s why de Jong is a must.

On Antony, thanks for the nod. As I said, I liked Antony at Ajax - and still do - but he was not the type of right winger/forward we needed. We needed someone who could dribble to open up defences, and someone who could keep the ball under pressure so that when we play the ball into channels, we can actually keep it and pin teams back. Neither of which were Antony’s strengths.

Are you a Man Utd fan or general football fan? Think you need to separate your priorities and bias when you're commenting.

Casemiro is objectively working for us and you've taken a massive L on this one. Is he the future and will we be able to sustain this if we don't make recruitment in the summer? That's a fair question but nobody can answer that right now.

If we had Arthur for your footballing viewing pleasure/idealistic dreams, we'll be still seeing McTominay play the majority of our games in midfield because for all the technicality Arthur has, he seemingly wasn't professional off it and has had bad injuries. You doubling down is not proof of you being right, it's your ego and pride showing because perhaps harshly you've been ripped to pieces on this forum for your takes on Casemiro/Eriksen; they were/are stop gaps but one's that have been effective for what is a long term project, that people also failed to realise also needs instant results.

I recall you saying you logged off for your mental health or something. If it's related to watching Utd, then we can all empathise with but sometimes you should just need another perspective on not 'being right' and have some humility.
 
Man, it's one thing to criticise a player for the performance. But it's a whole different thing when you wait for one bad performance and take that fecking moral stand- look I told you before that he is bad and washed out.

I may be getting a warning for this but feck it. Stop being a c*nt or stop supporting the team.
 
You know I love you, professor, but, no, I’m not taking an L on this one. Midfielders as wasteful as him are not my cup of tea.

He reminds me of Veron’s time here. Capable of some brilliant moments, but is too wasteful for the majority of it. Difference is, Veron came into a world class midfield consisting of a world class Scholes and Keane, and a very dependable Butt (ooooooh, I say!). Casemiro has come into a dead midfield so anything good he does is over praised and anything bad - of which there’s a lot - is overlooked.

The only way Casemiro works is next to a midfielder capable of controlling games to the highest level. Those who can keep the ball under pressure because Casemiro cannot. Modic carried the Madrid midfield, Arthur carried the Brazil one where they actually won something. That’s why de Jong is a must.

On Antony, thanks for the nod. As I said, I liked Antony at Ajax - and still do - but he was not the type of right winger/forward we needed. We needed someone who could dribble to open up defences, and someone who could keep the ball under pressure so that when we play the ball into channels, we can actually keep it and pin teams back. Neither of which were Antony’s strengths.
You got back now.
The absolute state of you.
 
You know I love you, professor, but, no, I’m not taking an L on this one. Midfielders as wasteful as him are not my cup of tea.

He reminds me of Veron’s time here. Capable of some brilliant moments, but is too wasteful for the majority of it. Difference is, Veron came into a world class midfield consisting of a world class Scholes and Keane, and a very dependable Butt (ooooooh, I say!). Casemiro has come into a dead midfield so anything good he does is over praised and anything bad - of which there’s a lot - is overlooked.

The only way Casemiro works is next to a midfielder capable of controlling games to the highest level. Those who can keep the ball under pressure because Casemiro cannot. Modic carried the Madrid midfield, Arthur carried the Brazil one where they actually won something. That’s why de Jong is a must.

On Antony, thanks for the nod. As I said, I liked Antony at Ajax - and still do - but he was not the type of right winger/forward we needed. We needed someone who could dribble to open up defences, and someone who could keep the ball under pressure so that when we play the ball into channels, we can actually keep it and pin teams back. Neither of which were Antony’s strengths.
He’s worked amazingly already without that but Ten Hag wanted De Jong too so not like you are some oracle seeing he would be even better beside a playmaker.

He’s at a higher level by far than any of Pool’s midfielders btw. They can only dream of having a player like him in their squad. Yesterday’s result was a fluke and basically a symptom of our poor fitness of late having relied on a thin squad in too many big games in a short period of time.

This is what can happen when a thin squad is challenging for four trophies. We overstretched and it came back to bite us in one fixture incredibly badly. Freakish some of their goals too so wouldn’t get too knee jerk.
 
Casimiro has been next level but something was wrong yesterday, not bad performance wring, he looked injured, he couldn't clear his lines or connect properly, anyone else spot this?
 
He’s worked amazingly already without that but Ten Hag wanted De Jong too so not like you are some oracle seeing he would be even better beside a playmaker.

He’s at a higher level by far than any of Pool’s midfielders btw. They can only dream of having a player like him in their squad. Yesterday’s result was a fluke and basically a symptom of our poor fitness of late having relied on a thin squad in too many big games in a short period of time.

This is what can happen when a thin squad is challenging for four trophies. We overstretched and it came back to bite us in one fixture incredibly badly. Freakish some of their goals too so wouldn’t get too knee jerk.
True and the squad had started to look a little fatigued,as evident in the West Ham game. Just feel that teams like Liverpool or City would never have slipped up in the same way as we did yesterday, even if they were essentially fielding the same players week after week.
You could argue the case that we haven’t the depth of talent to cover, maybe DeGea has emotional issues with Pool after conceding so many goals against them in past meetings and should’ve been on the bench?
There’s fundamentally more to this than we recognise and it’s now up to ETH and the coaching staff to corral them back into shape.
 
There are some real losers on here who view "winning" an argument on an internet forum as something of true value, the bumping of this thread to make a post as staggeringly planned and woeful is a wonderful example. Pity doesn't really do that sort justice, but it's got to be a weird empty little existence.