He is probably the best dictator of play at the moment.
I was wrong about Casemiro
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It’s nothing to do with fecking Ole. There is just some dumb twats in here.
Extraordinary isn’t it. Almost feels like it’s some people’s fetish to just make themselves look silly online.
Yep. We need to find another De Bruyne. A player that barely loses it, can carry the ball and pass it around to a high level. A tall order to find that player and for us to be the one to land them, but that's what we need.
No chance. There's about 3 at city that are better alone.
Too busy getting red in the face worried what their friends are going to say tomorrow. Fecking embarrassing stuff.
TC23 had his trademark sorted early doors, whats this guy done?
City are in the top 2 in the world for midfield, its literally their strongest position and has been for years. That has nothing to do with us though.
Eriksen is not even better than Pogba.
Pogba had is own issues but he was true CM.
Midfield is the main problem of this team with how it set-up and play.
Striking is a personnel issue. We haven't bought a genuine striker since Lukaku. All other have pensioners. Ighalo, Cavani, CR7, Weghorst
You can't win anything big when in 2 months you control 2-3 games..
31 isn't that old for a centre midfielder? Also good luck finding the budget for that if you're prioritising that over other positions.
He is quality, there's a reason we were after him.
So he's not the best dictator of play. How good city are has nothing to do with this point.
We were after Brian Brobbey.
Do you really think De Jong wouldn't improve our team?
This clown will never be a TC23 or a JLingz.
If De Jong is so good then why has he been in and out of the Barca team this season and last, and why did we dominate him so easily? If he's a top midfielder then there's an obvious dip in quality in that position throughout football.
Improve, yes. But I don't think he's even the level we need to become a team that fares well under pressure. We saw that against Barca where we caused him all sorts of issues. And technically they're better than us, so it wasn't an issue of the players around him.
We need a GK,RB,CB,2CM and a striker minimum. Probably a backup striker as well.
If we don't sign 6-7 top players in those positions we are in the same old mess.
Seems like Casemiro needs 4/5 games to get to full match speed after time out. A bit like Carrick. He was out for four games.
Erikson is definitely better than Pogba, hes just struggling with his fitness.
Neither of those things is true.
Not the best dictator of play? I think he is, who is better?
He’s been struggling a bit in these tighter games where we get pressed possibly because he’s not the best technical player / on the ball and needs others to make up for him in thag regards. That’s why I say we need a playmaker. Barring Eriksen and his legs sometimes aren’t there we have nobody
He's their second highest rated midfielder by average rating, he's played the 6th most minutes in the whole squad this season.
Hello Todd Boehly. That's not how building a team works.
That's true and we've seen that already with him this season. That's something that makes me think age will catch up with him sooner than later. Even a small amount of time out seems to mess his fitness up quite a bit, and he must surely still be training as normal too.
Which midfielder is ahead? He has been mostly in the team for a while but last season and earlier this season that wasn't the case. I believe they've had injuries to the likes of Pedri, who was ahead of him at one stage.
Rodri and De Bruyne are better. Then there's others at City that play in midfield at times that I think are better, though they move their players around quite a bit and don't always play in midfield. Even De Bruyne gets shifted around, but without question he is better than De Jong by some distance.
Pedri is ahead of him.
De Bruyne is more attacking though he's better compared to Bruno. Rodri is a fair comparison. I think De Jong at his highest ceiling can be as good or better than Rodri.
De Bruyne doesn't really dictate play much, Rodri isn't close to him.
De Jong is notorious for having a weak mentality. I'm absolutely convinced he would flop in the premier league.
In what way
passing, dribbling, Stamina? Assist, scoring goals? Physicality or what?Can Eriksen inspire a United comeback in Etihad even for once? Or we will hide himself and be bypassed.
Pogba had is own issues but Eriksen is a poor mans Pogba.
I have said it many times, the reason why we get hammered since Ole 2021 to now is because of how open our Midfield has become.
We are too light weight. Esp now with Bruno and Eriksen.
Mourinho with all his mistakes he LOST ONLY ONCE above 4(+) goals. Chelsea away. 4-0.
Since Ole took over to now, we have lost over 10 games with over 4(+) goals.
Man United 1-6 Tottenham Hotspur - Oct 04, 2020
Manchester City 4-1 Man Utd - 6 Mar, 2021
Liverpool 4-2 Man Utd 13 May 2021
Man Utd 0-5 Liverpool - 24 Oct, 2021
Watford 4-1 Man Utd - 20 Nov, 2021
Leicester 4-2 Man Utd - Oct 16, 2021
Liverpool 4-0 Man Utd - 19 Apr, 2022
Brighton 4-0 Man Utd - May 7, 2022
Brenford 4-0 this season.
City 6-3 this season.
Liverpool 7-0 this season.
Scoring 10 goals while shipping 52 goals. 52 goals.
If this doesn't tell you what's the problem then nothing else can.
Casemiro isban incredible player but there's no doubt this team and his midfield partners isn't setup to hide his flaws.
He really shouldn't be the player receiving the ball from the back but he currently does. Also pairing him with Eriksen is asking way too much of him defensively.
Too often he's having to leave huge gaps behind when trying to win the ball. The Madrid team was a lot more compact so he wasn't stretched as much.
He really shouldn't be the player receiving the ball from the back but he currently does. Also pairing him with Eriksen is asking way too much of him defensively.
Too often he's having to leave huge gaps behind when trying to win the ball. The Madrid team was a lot more compact so he wasn't stretched as much.
Casemiro is 31 and we paid close to 80m for him. What I'm saying is that unless we actually win something meaningful during the short period he's going to be here, it's not illogical to question such investment. Paid that sum of money in such kind of player who's at the later stage of his career means you want to win a major trophy and you want to win it ASAP. He's not someone who's going to stick for a long period of time or someone you're investing in for the future.
Take that mind. He has been pretty good this season, but it'll ultimately comes up to how much we're going to benefit from him in winning a meaningful trophy (definitely not the League Cup).
Take that mind. He has been pretty good this season, but it'll ultimately comes up to how much we're going to benefit from him in winning a meaningful trophy (definitely not the League Cup).
We should never be pinning our hopes on a defensive midfielder. He’s very good at what he does but he shouldn’t be expected to win games for us, it shows how shite our midfield has been for so long and how far we have fallen.
His casual play sometimes really pisses me off, too many under hit passes and the like. It's something that I noticed early on with him and occasionally crops up in certain games. He is world class, there is no doubting that, but sometimes he performs like he's above it all.
Weirdly he reminds me of Matic, a class player who can run the show but sometimes doesn't seem like his head is in the game and the whole shape of the team collapses. I used to say that if Matic had a bad game the whole team had a bad game, and it feels a bit like this with Casemiro. Perhaps symptomatic of the crucial position they play.
Weirdly he reminds me of Matic, a class player who can run the show but sometimes doesn't seem like his head is in the game and the whole shape of the team collapses. I used to say that if Matic had a bad game the whole team had a bad game, and it feels a bit like this with Casemiro. Perhaps symptomatic of the crucial position they play.
In what way
Can Eriksen inspire a United comeback in Etihad even for once? Or we will hide himself and be bypassed.
Pogba had is own issues but Eriksen is a poor mans Pogba.
I have said it many times, the reason why we get hammered since Ole 2021 to now is because of how open our Midfield has become.
We are too light weight. Esp now with Bruno and Eriksen.
Mourinho with all his mistakes he LOST ONLY ONCE above 4(+) goals. Chelsea away. 4-0.
Since Ole took over to now, we have lost over 10 games with over 4(+) goals.
Man United 1-6 Tottenham Hotspur - Oct 04, 2020
Manchester City 4-1 Man Utd - 6 Mar, 2021
Liverpool 4-2 Man Utd 13 May 2021
Man Utd 0-5 Liverpool - 24 Oct, 2021
Watford 4-1 Man Utd - 20 Nov, 2021
Leicester 4-2 Man Utd - Oct 16, 2021
Liverpool 4-0 Man Utd - 19 Apr, 2022
Brighton 4-0 Man Utd - May 7, 2022
Brenford 4-0 this season.
City 6-3 this season.
Liverpool 7-0 this season.
Scoring 10 goals while shipping 52 goals. 52 goals.
If this doesn't tell you what's the problem then nothing else can.
He is better at dictating play and hes a more intelligent player, I do not know how you can say hes a poor mans Pogba when they are not the same type of player.
There are many reasons why we have conceded more goals, we play a more attacking style of football now, with Mourinho and Ole we played more defensive. We have had lots of important injuries, we used to play with 2 defensive minded midfielders in front of our defense.
The reality is that we are not that good, and have not been good in a long time. We were crap under every manager since SAF. Some styles show it more than others.
So out of all those defeats Eriksen was in the club in the last 3, others happened while Pogba was in midfield or he hasnt played in some.In what way
Can Eriksen inspire a United comeback in Etihad even for once? Or we will hide himself and be bypassed.
Pogba had is own issues but Eriksen is a poor mans Pogba.
I have said it many times, the reason why we get hammered since Ole 2021 to now is because of how open our Midfield has become.
We are too light weight. Esp now with Bruno and Eriksen.
Mourinho with all his mistakes he LOST ONLY ONCE above 4(+) goals. Chelsea away. 4-0.
Since Ole took over to now, we have lost over 10 games with over 4(+) goals.
Man United 1-6 Tottenham Hotspur - Oct 04, 2020
Manchester City 4-1 Man Utd - 6 Mar, 2021
Liverpool 4-2 Man Utd 13 May 2021
Man Utd 0-5 Liverpool - 24 Oct, 2021
Watford 4-1 Man Utd - 20 Nov, 2021
Leicester 4-2 Man Utd - Oct 16, 2021
Liverpool 4-0 Man Utd - 19 Apr, 2022
Brighton 4-0 Man Utd - May 7, 2022
Brenford 4-0 this season.
City 6-3 this season.
Liverpool 7-0 this season.
Scoring 10 goals while shipping 52 goals. 52 goals.
If this doesn't tell you what's the problem then nothing else can.
So yes, I get what the problem was.
feck this thread. Casemiro is far from the problem.
He was crap last night but people are forgetting how important he's been for us all season, one of our best players this season alongside Martinez and Rashford