I don't think anyone thought he wouldn't be good today. Think people were worried in a few years if he declined and is on the league's top salaries
I was wrong about Casemiro
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I've already stated the importance of having an older player with experience in winning trophies in the squad. We need short-term success and long-term planning if we want this cycle to have any shot at permanency.
That is what a proper central midfielder looks like.
Has been so long I barely recognise it.
Outstanding from start to finish, let’s hope he can stay fit for the next 3 years.
Shearer (who always picks a centre forward for motm) highlighted him tells us all we need to know
Has been so long I barely recognise it.
Outstanding from start to finish, let’s hope he can stay fit for the next 3 years.
Shearer (who always picks a centre forward for motm) highlighted him tells us all we need to know
Good to see common sense prevails in this thread and we can ignore the WUMs.
I wasn't able to recognise his greatness at Madrid, often dismissed his ability as I thought any water carrier could play with Kroos and Modric.
He has everything, composure, technique, finesse and my word he looks like a deranged animal flying into some tackles. Fan favourite.
He has everything, composure, technique, finesse and my word he looks like a deranged animal flying into some tackles. Fan favourite.
I think you are needed over in the Antony thread buddyI didn’t say it? Just letting you know you’d been summoned
I think you are needed over in the Antony thread buddy
Oh I’ve seen the pondlife having a go at him.
Didn’t play well tonight but feck me do this lot just love trying to hound players.
Sancho and Antony the current ones seeing as Rashford silenced them.
To be fair to the people who used to doubt him... He took a while to settle here. His first few appearances were not convincing at all.
Me too. I was a bit scared of Casemiro. Real is really good at pressing instantly after they lose the ball high up field. To a large extent, a CDM is really reliant on the team infront of him pressing well. Like what can you do as a CDM if you got a guy 30 feet ahead of you with his face up and options up field? While a CDM can just rely on his vision and ability to read the game and pick off passes if they are made by stressed players.
I looked at Casemiro’s stats being at the top of Europe in terms of tackles won etc and was afraid that it would be completely different for him away from Real. But he is just so good. A real cult player.
In addition — whatever Real do to train their players at passing the ball, we must just copy it. Casemiro’s passing is fantastic. I saw a lot of a young Casemiro, remember how Zidane was thrashed for playing him ahead of bigger names in the midfield. To be honest, Casemiro wasn’t particularly great early in his real career, but he was the one they had that could provide balance on the midfield. But one thing is certain, he definitely didn’t had much of a range in his passing game.
To a fairly large extent, the ability to deliver those long passes and crosses can be trained. Kind of like golf. At this level, to continue the analogy, everyone can drive the ball a great distance from the tee using the driver, but many dont have the precision to comfortably make long passes. All players at Real develop this ability. Sergei Ramos like the last 6-8 years has been the best passing CB I’ve ever seen. I used to love Sinisha Mihajlovic, but Ramos ability to constantly making those long passes diagonally up to wingers is unmatched. I clearly remember a young Sergei Ramos, he didn’t at all have that ability. He was more like a Diogo Dalot type in a sense. Very athletic. Decent skill. Very competitive. But his passing game was average at best.
Imagine if a club ensures that every player that plays like at least 6-8 years for them or more really develop at top notch long passing game. It is immensely valuable. Lindelof would be a 60m player by now instead of perhaps 30-35m. McT. Guys like Axel Tuanzebe. This is really one area we need to improve. Players that leave Real after spending a fair amount of time there just has an extra layer of class you just don’t quite get from many other organizations. Sure talent is a part of it, but it’s more. It’s like the same as with Ramos, Gareth Bale and Ronaldo’s reach in the air. It stands out and goes above and beyond what you could have expected had they not played for Real.
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It’s mad really how few world class CMs we’ve had because those we have had have tended to be around for a long time. Robson, Keane, Scholes and now Casemiro. I’d almost put Ince in there and then you’ve the likes of Mosses, Whiteside and Butt. Veron was a world class player but not for us, still a pleasure to watch and Carrick had a great season in 2013 but was nowhere near great aside from that.
Add Casemiro to Robson, Keane, Scholes and those before my time like Charlton and Edwards. For sure he deserves mentioning with those players.
Add Casemiro to Robson, Keane, Scholes and those before my time like Charlton and Edwards. For sure he deserves mentioning with those players.
It is funny really.
Some posters will constantly highlight how other clubs have massively overpaid for players and call them donkeys and yet ignore what their own club does
It is funny really.
Some posters will constantly highlight how other clubs have massively overpaid for players and call them donkeys and yet ignore what their own club does
Is that what’s happening in the Antony thread? I dare not look.
I guess some posters support the club and it’s players oddly. Strange times we live in
You should pay attention to you tagline more often.
Good, fun thread.
I was hoping he'd be great for us but i've been so jaded after being excited about others like Schweinsteiger, Di Maria Alexis etc... Long may it continue!
I was hoping he'd be great for us but i've been so jaded after being excited about others like Schweinsteiger, Di Maria Alexis etc... Long may it continue!
Of course, I would like to think everyone here supports the club and I am sure we all know when we have got a bargain and when we have been rinsed...it just takes some longer than othersIs that what’s happening in the Antony thread? I dare not look.
I guess some posters support the club and it’s players oddly. Strange times we live in
Of course, I would like to think everyone here supports the club and I am sure we all know when we have got a bargain and when we have been rinsed...it just takes some longer than others
I mean you would? I’d like to think everyone supports our players but I’ve read some pretty awful stuff about Rashford, and now Sancho, to make me think that’s not the case.
I’m just glad the real fans do get behind the lads.
In terms of Antony there does seem to be a desperation by some to declare him a failure as soon as they possibly can. Heavens knows why? Do they get some kind of internet credibility for ‘calling it’? Even when it’s very premature?
Each to their own! I’m just happy with the 3 points and to see the club back on track
So am I and I love to see every player in a Utd shirt perform to their best ability.I mean you would? I’d like to think everyone supports our players but I’ve read some pretty awful stuff about Rashford, and now Sancho, to make me think that’s not the case.
I’m just glad the real fans do get behind the lads.
In terms of Antony there does seem to be a desperation by some to declare him a failure as soon as they possibly can. Heavens knows why? Do they get some kind of internet credibility for ‘calling it’? Even when it’s very premature?
Each to their own! I’m just happy with the 3 points and to see the club back on track
My gripe is when we spend a lot of money on players and they do not perform because we are being laughed at by opposition but that is banter.
As for 'calling it' I think there were too many on here going off a little bit early without looking at the overall performance but who am I to be a party pooper
But to write off Real Madrid legend with that kind of CV is kind of daft to be honest..
Football back.. nothing but great. Casemiro is fantastic.
Varane would too
Yeah he couldn't get a look in ahead of McTominay at one point. Fair play to him for keeping his head down and working hard, and waiting for an opportunity to shine over the young Scot.
Who pissed into your bowl of cereal this morning?
He's already written his name in footballing history with his 5 CL titles! Impact for United of course is different, but as a football player, there is no comparison between them - and Casemiro is still in his peak. As individual players in their prime, the question is between Keane and him, but I said it before he signed, he's the modern day Roy Keane with how complete he is, but also with his aggression and leadership.
I'm not sure what your intention was with this post, if I'm honest.
For sure, although "£60m 30 year old on a 4 year contract on £350k a week" is definitely on the higher end of that scale.
Unpopular opinion on here mate
It just makes too much sense for some to understand.
Casemiro and Eriksen as our CMs instead of any combination of Fred, McTominay and Pogba, is such a massive upgrade it’s insane. Control, precision, experience, calm, steel, creativity. Massive, massive improvement at the heart of our team.
Mate, everyone knows you can't beat father time. I doubt if anyone here really thinks Casemiro has the elixir of youth to beat the clock. Why point out the obvious?
I suggest you just enjoy the moment. Its not good for your mental health to be all depressive.
Ignore the jokers @Compton22. It's actually refreshing to see someone on the forum admit they've changed their opinion, instead of just digging in further.
It's like when I said @rimaldo is secretly living in my attic, and I kept bringing it up even though everyone said I should wait before passing judgement.
It's like when I said @rimaldo is secretly living in my attic, and I kept bringing it up even though everyone said I should wait before passing judgement.
Is that you Graeme?
Just a shame he wont win anything here.
I don't think anyone who has somewhat follow RM / Champions League would doubt Casemero's ability, he was the bedrock of RM. You only puzzled at the price tag, and for how long he can provide. The former is forgiven if he can give the same performance for the next 3 seasons, plus.
See this implies that someone cannot have the emotional capacity to enjoy the moment but also be aware of problems that might present themselves in the future. I assume you're not suggesting either of us is so emotionally and intellectually stunted?
I think you mean he's the figurative cement that holds our midfield together.
If Casemiro was literal cement he would'nt be a sentient being named "Casemiro" he would be a bunch of minerals combined to make what we know as cement therefore we wouldnt have the human being who is the figurative cement that holds out midfield together in our current team.
Silly OP.
If Casemiro was literal cement he would'nt be a sentient being named "Casemiro" he would be a bunch of minerals combined to make what we know as cement therefore we wouldnt have the human being who is the figurative cement that holds out midfield together in our current team.
Silly OP.
Thank you, I appreciate that
However, I am now seriously worrying that I have jinxed him as he could have an absolute stinker of a 2nd half of the season His impact though has been nothing short of breathtaking and I doubt I am the only one that has been slightly taken aback at just how good he has been.
Was worried about his age and motivation as he had won so much. I thought he was fat too due to his chubby face. So what do I know. There is a reason why people like him are winners they are naturally self motivated, winning only motivates them to win more. So happy we got him.
Remember him and Keano shaking hands before scousers game. He endorsed the guy that night and now he is fully established