Does it matter if Rashford is more fit if he still does not have the mental will to sacrifice himself on the pitch for the team? I just dont see this as the solution!
Henry Winter: Rashford spent the summer getting supremely fit, reporting early for training | Wants to stay as he loves the club
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It was a car crash of a post.
Yeah I actually like Winter's writing and of course I hope our club is going in the right direction but this seems like a bit of a rich mix, it does seem a little too obviously PR for me.Holy! So he's basically been playing injured since 2019 according to that guy?
No wonder so many of us are sceptical about Rashford. Whenever he goes through a rough patch, PR articles like these come out.
He was already downhill, had given us his best years and played his heart out every time he put on a United shirt. Can’t believe anyone would begrudge him.
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Still fighting the good fight in here afro! My man
Imagine that! Flat cap, pigeons, pasty diet, straight in double footed on the PL's newest £100mm+ player, doesn't even stop to argue with ref, walks off proud, EtH and Brexit Jim applauding him.
Yep it most definitely was.
I find it very therapeuticStill fighting the good fight in here afro! My man
If this truly baffles you, you must find life very difficult to negotiate and understand.
Amen, brother!
If this truly baffles you, you must find life very difficult to negotiate and understand.
Let's not tell him, the founder of this forum, and most members do not live in Manchester...I‘m so relieved; I believe Rashford will have a great season with lots of goals. He worked so hard last season when he was on the pitch; I‘m full of confidence he will be outstanding.
Of course he wouldn't, he's a great Manc that Alex Ferguson.
PR piece gets released:
"Great to see he's putting a shift in"
This is why he does it. These things work.
"Great to see he's putting a shift in"
This is why he does it. These things work.
LVG turfed out Evra who ended up starting a CL final the following season, Vida was absolutely finished and definitely would have been booted if he didn't leave.
Imagine that. Getting behind players who couldn't even be arsed to run on the ptch, but just stroll around. Seems to have caught on after believing the Rashford PR.
BREAKING: Pro athlete paid to train, trains
I really want him to get his head down and be the player he can be, if he ends up staying but the piece is insulting.
“he is putting the work in now that he visibly didnt all season. He is now ready to do what he chose not to do for the last 12 months”
“the reason he didn’t play well, or even run since August was because of an injury he picked up when the season was nearly over”
How is this not insulting?
“he is putting the work in now that he visibly didnt all season. He is now ready to do what he chose not to do for the last 12 months”
“the reason he didn’t play well, or even run since August was because of an injury he picked up when the season was nearly over”
How is this not insulting?
He‘s on my naughty list. The only to get off of it, is work hard on and off the pitch.
I think he should ditch his PR agency, get off social media and focus on performance 100%.
The same Vidic who was ridiculed by the press when he arrived and underperformed, but then went on to silence them by not only winning multiple major trophies but becoming one of the best the PL has ever seen? Difficult, sure.
Was his fitness every really a problem? Lad always looked like he had the body of a Greek god.
I find it very therapeutic
That's exactly what I was going to say to him aswell! But I just decided to put him on ignore insteadAmen, brother!
I can't stand that kind of attitude, it irritates me big time.I can see Rio now raving on about how this will be he’s season. We have to move him on now surely…?
If supporting the club is limited to only people from Manchester, the club wouldnt have the financial resources to compete. Do you understand what you said is completely out of touch with reality? Have you seen how much the club pay for transfers and wages?
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Last year, the Overlap episode with him was showing him in his preseason preparations, and he spoke at lenght how he does it. And drop an absolute stinker of a season. Now, this article, its a deja vu for me. And you can see why people are connecting the PR dots.
He has never been closer to be put up for sale by the club, he has turned quite a few fans against him with his performances of past season, body language, off the field issues and what's most inexcusable, visible lack of effort during games.
Stories popping up that his brother has flatly refused to even contemplate selling him in Saudi, while stories of a breakdown with Ten Hag emerging.
Nothing would be make me happier to see him do his talking on the pitch instead of having a PR Minions. He was supposed to be the pinnacle of everything this club is about, local youth that was given the chance to show the World what Manchester United is about on the biggest sporting stage. God, I really thought that night in Paris will propell him into a United legend. He has slowly turned himself into the poster boy of everything that United fans don't want in a player.
I hope he turns a new page, gets the right people around him that will tell him the cold truth, instead of having yes men that will validate the fantasy world in which he currently lives and are more concerned about Marcus Rashford the public persona, than the Marcus Rashford, the footballer. Hope the England drop has hurt him enough so that he can really silence his doubters in the upcoming season.
He has never been closer to be put up for sale by the club, he has turned quite a few fans against him with his performances of past season, body language, off the field issues and what's most inexcusable, visible lack of effort during games.
Stories popping up that his brother has flatly refused to even contemplate selling him in Saudi, while stories of a breakdown with Ten Hag emerging.
Nothing would be make me happier to see him do his talking on the pitch instead of having a PR Minions. He was supposed to be the pinnacle of everything this club is about, local youth that was given the chance to show the World what Manchester United is about on the biggest sporting stage. God, I really thought that night in Paris will propell him into a United legend. He has slowly turned himself into the poster boy of everything that United fans don't want in a player.
I hope he turns a new page, gets the right people around him that will tell him the cold truth, instead of having yes men that will validate the fantasy world in which he currently lives and are more concerned about Marcus Rashford the public persona, than the Marcus Rashford, the footballer. Hope the England drop has hurt him enough so that he can really silence his doubters in the upcoming season.
I’m not a pro athlete, not even playing pickup football as a hobby, so I for sure can’t speak for what he’s been going through, but… how hard is it to just put your head down and perform to the level you know you are capable of? He can easily, easily become an icon at Man Utd when all is said and done if he’s consistently putting up the numbers he can at his peak, so why doesn’t he just do that? It’s befuddling and frankly frustrating, coming from a supporter of his.
Username checks out.
We all respect your personal experience but a strong connection can transcend geographical boundaries. There are people who weren’t around or physically present on location during the Seattle punk rock scene or the Beatles / British Invasion period, but have a deep seated personal connection to the music of those periods. Like music, football is a global sport and I’m surprised that by now you haven’t figured out the reason and intensity of foreign support.
And as someone alluded, applying this to the Rashford situation, we all love the local youth academy heritage of the club, but it cannot supersede merit. Just like an individual may find more connection with those from his own community or ethnic origin, but to discriminate against someone, more capable / well natured, of a different one, would be wrong. So it’s perfectly natural for fans to prefer, in a hypothetical scenario, a Park Ji Sung who bleeds for the badge over Rashford who refuses to run or contest long balls.
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He always looks so miserable these days. Like he's not interested at all.
Does he really want to stay and fight for his place? Or does he just want to keep collecting a fat paycheck on the United gravy train?
Does he really want to stay and fight for his place? Or does he just want to keep collecting a fat paycheck on the United gravy train?
What truly matters is the player's professionalism, commitment and love for the shirt. I can't care less of where he was born. I would take Cantona/Keane/Vidic ahead of ravel morrison
I think you missed the fact United is a globally known and supported club. By your logic people should support only the clubs from their own town or village.
There was that episode of the Overlap where the lads alluded to him not having the "right people" around him. You can maybe read between the lines and think maybe it's people who are trying to build a brand and around him and earn from that brand, rather than have someone experienced to give him advice and maybe some tough love as and when it's needed.
Despite everything, his lack of form, criticism from the fans, disciplinary issues, losing his place in the England squad and being left at home this summer - the impression I get from Rashford and the whole PR around him - is that he feels like the victim rather than someone who's at least partially responsible for what's happened to him over the last 12-18 months.
There's no sense it's been recognised either within his camp or even by Rashford himself that he's the one the buck stops with. Instead the response is to firefight with self pity. That "doubt me? Even better" interview, these PR fluff pieces about working hard. Worryingly it tells me he, and maybe people around him, still don't get it. They still haven't admitted the problem starts and ends with his attitude and application on the pitch, not with those unappreciative of his talents.
There's only two roles that Rashford seems comfortable in playing - hero or victim. He needed someone to take him under their wing when he was young, point out all these GQ awards and MBEs and Smash Hits Poll Winners Party gongs (or whatever) were unimportant and to concentrate on his game. When people update the book on what are the risks of a promising talent getting too much fame and too many accolades too soon, I fear it's a shoe-in that Rashford is going to get his own chapter.
Prolonged dip in form, application and in public perception following a peroid of huge praise and accolades, the sudden and sharp withdrawal of such followed on very closely with disciplinary issues, losing his place with the national team, all night benders, self-pittying press interviews. It's sad, but I have some magic beans for anyone who thinks the next chapter of this story is the lad putting his head down, working hard and having a great season.
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I think it's more down to how absolutely lazy he is, and how he sulks.
To be fair, it actually is quite difficult to consistently perform at your top level in a misfiring team that is constantly being dominated and ripped apart because of a combination of tactics and available players. Most people don't seem to realise just how big an impact confidence has on players performance levels, and it's hardly surprising that confidence levels for a lot of players were through the floor last season. When you're confident everything just seems easier; your reactions feel faster, your passes are sharper, you get your shots away a bit faster, you can run further or with more intensity without getting tired, etc.
In saying that, it doesn't excuse just how bad Rashford does get and his lack of effort. A drop in form is one thing, but he goes beyond that.
This is the point I was aiming for last night. But typing from a phone, and at 3 am my local time, your training of thought eludes you.
Well said and I lived in wythenshawe and Salford for 44 years. The club would be a Bristol Rovers if only local people supported them
If we look at it holistically, Rashford's shit seasons have coincided with us having shit seasons. The one when Ole & Rangnick had a tough time and in the last one ETH struggled to get any tune of the team. We as a club struggled in both those seasons and Rashford inevitably suffered too. I am not saying he shouldn't have done better but for some reason he gets singled out despite having scored 30 goals in the previous season. It's not always possible to be highly productive when the team as a whole is on a down-slide.
I'll be okay if Rashford wants to leave and thinks that would be better for his career. I don't think any player should be kept around against his wishes. However, we would have to replace him with another high productivity player if we have to be successful. Besides Vini, Kvara & Leao, I don't see many left sided wide players who can come in and replace his numbers. The grass always looks greener on the other side, but there aren't many players in world football with the capability of replacing his numbers coming from the wide left.
Also, this talk of his "PR getting into action" is funny. There are 320 posts in this thread and 300+ are chastising him and the article. Who is the "PR" working on?
Maybe just maybe Rashford will get off social media and stop getting all defensive from the fans criticising his performance. I don't give two s**** about his PR team pumping videos of the gym work or football drills he does off season. What matters is on the pitch and the effort he puts in. I personally don't think he'll earn that place back but i don't mind being proved wrong in his case.
That's the aggravating part, it does not work, and yet, they are persevering with it.