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Has anyone said the should have been practicing his finishing instead yet?
Attempt to sell all three. If you can't, then look to loan out Antony and Sancho with options/obligations. Use Rashford as a backup and not an automatic starter. These players might be hurting you off the pitch, but don't allow them to hurt you on it too.How do you get rid of them then?
Do whatever is necessary. If you can't sell them, then loan them with options/obligations. Rashford is the most useful of the three, but only use him very sparingly as a squad option until the time comes when you can sell him.No shit Sherlock. The question is how.
Nobody is that dumb to buy them, they're not that self conscious to take a cut.
Shhh. You can't be reasonable on this thread. Rashford was absolutely terrible and should be sold immediately.He did alright but his finishing was off, a shame but definitely showed positive signs. Remember it's still a pre season game.
He did alright but his finishing was off, a shame but definitely showed positive signs. Remember it's still a pre season game.
Oddly the manager is nothing but positive about his performance in training and how he interacts with the squad. So how are the 2 comparable and what do you know from your dealing with Marcus that would qualify you to know better?Personally his attitude stinks and he should have been shipped out. Arteta did it with PEA and his squad was better for it. We don’t have the luxury to carry players through games
How was it a decent performance? What was good or even acceptable about it?Can't believe the overreaction on social media. Marcus worked well for the team and missed 2 chances, so he's being piled onto for a nothing of note game and having a decent performance. Genuinely don't think it helps any player to see some of the guff posted about them.
We played well against one of the best teams on the planet and should have won, so let's all target certain players is just bizarre.
It doesn’t matter. Don’t you know, you can just make stuff up on internet forums and then people will believe it’s gospel so they can use it to suit their agenda.Oddly the manager is nothing but positive about his performance in training and how he interacts with the squad. So how are the 2 comparable and what do you know from your dealing with Marcus that would qualify you to know better?
Ten Hag was quick to remove Ronaldo who had issues with training and the manager, also Sancho.
How was it a decent performance? What was good or even acceptable about it?
He walked onto the the pitch fully dressed, with each shoe on the right foot. That's the standard Rashford has to meet in order to achieve a 'decent' peformance. That's long established. He hasn't got a 'poor'. Even when in comparison with everyone else on the pitch he looks dreadful, his performance will always be described as 'decent'.How was it a decent performance? What was good or even acceptable about it?
Standards are in the pits if our best paid, ‘franchise’ player is deemed acceptable by merely putting the effort in.As long as he's improving, I'm fine with it. Just hope he will not lose motivation again mid season. A motivated player is an asset to any team
Obviously I don’t know Marcus, I’m going by what I see of him in matches on the pitch.Oddly the manager is nothing but positive about his performance in training and how he interacts with the squad. So how are the 2 comparable and what do you know from your dealing with Marcus that would qualify you to know better?
Ten Hag was quick to remove Ronaldo who had issues with training and the manager, also Sancho.
How was it a decent performance? What was good or even acceptable about it?
Totally agree. People seem to be happy with ‘he’s improving.’ This is ridiculous. We don’t need improving players who are supposed to be our main goal threats, we need him to put the ball in the net. Standards have dropped massively.Standards are in the pits if our best paid, ‘franchise’ player is deemed acceptable by merely putting the effort in.
If he doesn’t get 30 G+A minimum this season we must start hawking him around, before it turns to another post-2014 Rooney/Sanchez situation.
This.Standards are in the pits if our best paid, ‘franchise’ player is deemed acceptable by merely putting the effort in.
If he doesn’t get 30 G+A minimum this season we must start hawking him around, before it turns to another post-2014 Rooney/Sanchez situation.
But he didn’t put the chances away. No one has an agenda against him, we just don’t think the sun shines out of his backside like some on here. No on should be above criticism and standards should be high at United. Can’t believe that even needs to be said but here you goHow wasn't it a decent performance? His manager is happy with him and I'm not the one complaining about how he performed.
Had he converted one of his 2 chances no one would be complaining, aside those with an endless agenda against him.
I'd strongly beg to differ, it's just a carry on from last season. His performance wasn't poor, yet he's got 3 threads all very active with people making out he didn't play well, which isn't true.But he didn’t put the chances away. No one has an agenda against him, we just don’t think the sun shines out of his backside like some on here. No on should be above criticism and standards should be high at United. Can’t believe that even needs to be said but here you go
But that's exactly the issue. He was served with two excellent goal opportunities. Apart from finding himself at the end of those passes opening a shooting position, what did he do to call this a decent performance? That is a genuine question. If Casemiro and Bruno don't make that pass, surely he's still having a decent game right?How wasn't it a decent performance? His manager is happy with him and I'm not the one complaining about how he performed.
Had he converted one of his 2 chances no one would be complaining, aside those with an endless agenda against him.
Who says he is our main goal threat ? You ?Totally agree. People seem to be happy with ‘he’s improving.’ This is ridiculous. We don’t need improving players who are supposed to be our main goal threats, we need him to put the ball in the net. Standards have dropped massively.
Just because a player misses a chance doesn't mean they had a poor performance.But that's exactly the issue. He was served with two excellent goal opportunities. Apart from finding himself at the end of those passes opening a shooting position, what did he do to call this a decent performance? That is a genuine question. If Casemiro and Bruno don't make that pass, surely he's still having a decent game right.
He ruined nearly every attack he was involved in, he created nothing, he was only a negative to our play, he was useless defensively just beaten constantly.How wasn't it a decent performance? His manager is happy with him and I'm not the one complaining about how he performed.
Had he converted one of his 2 chances no one would be complaining, aside those with an endless agenda against him.
Which part of his play? Because he was the worst player on the pitch doing nothing positive.He played well?
Yeah sureHe ruined nearly every attack he was involved in, he created nothing, he was only a negative to our play, he was useless defensively just beaten constantly.
that's like saying OT doesn't have a leaky roofBut he didn’t put the chances away. No one has an agenda against him, we just don’t think the sun shines out of his backside like some on here. No on should be above criticism and standards should be high at United. Can’t believe that even needs to be said but here you go
Exactly! Whether player scores a chance or not is not a good indicator of his performance. I am asking what did he do to make you say he played well, because I don't think he did much.Just because a player misses a chance doesn't mean they had a poor performance.
He played well , if you don't see it that's fine I'm not going to do a YouTube content to show all involvements. Manager was fine with him and so am I. Hoping he has a very good season. Finding the negativity very tedious already! Team played well as a whole, which was very positive.
Jesus Christ, how passive aggressive is this? You're making up a scenario here where the vast majority of people think Rashford had been decent over the last year. That's not the reality I've here or talking to people outside of here. Bizarre really, because he's been absolutely slated and the vast majority of the performances were worthy of the criticism, although not the vitriol.He walked onto the the pitch fully dressed, with each shoe on the right foot. That's the standard Rashford has to meet in order to achieve a 'decent' peformance. That's long established. He hasn't got a 'poor'. Even when in comparison with everyone else on the pitch he looks dreadful, his performance will always be described as 'decent'.
The Rashford thread this season, like last, will be full of people insisting that he's had a string of performances so 'decent' that they led them to lose his place in the England set-up and started to see others ahead of him at United too. No Sir, Rashford is nothing else other than 'decent'. Except, that is, when he's actaully decent. On those occasions he's "world class"
There's a core of the support who have been gaslighting this for a few years now. We can look forward to another season where outrageously bad performances being stoically defended with the five magic words: '"I thought he was decent"
I would argue about only the part where you say he has no talent. Of course he does, how do you end up scoring 20+ goals in multiple seasons otherwise? He’s definitely shown enough over the past 4-5 years, that he has the talent as well as potential.I actually feel for Rashford, he’s been in this sort of situation several times and its not easy to overcome.
The only thing he can do is to put his head down and work really hard for the team, but its difficult when you’re the “face of the club” and the highest earner, because you’re also expected to deliver the numbers.
Its a position Marcus Rashford should have never been in, he was never that level of talent nor he had the mentality.
Jose Mourinho got lots of stick for basically treating Rashford as a squad player, he played plenty but he was never the main striker or the main man, Jose knew Rashford was never that level of player.
Then Ole came along and decided to build the attack around him and Martial.
Martial had the talent but was incredibly injury prone and had poor mentality, Rashford was never ever the level of talent to be the main man of one of the 2-3 biggest clubs on the planet.
For his own sake, he should’ve left to play in an another league, but since he never wanted to leave, the minimum he can do is to get the basics right of being a wide player, work hard, track back, forget about being the main man, do the right things for the team.
Him running into blind alleys consistently thinking he’s supposed to be Neymar, is a problem and and its easy to rectify, just don’t do that, but it also goes back to the club forcefully turning him into a “Neymar” when he was never that level of talent to begin with.
Exactly. I think Amad and Bruno had good games and I can explain why. I think anyone who thinks Rashford had a good game should also be able to explain the reasons. "he almost scored" doesn't seem like a strong argument to me.How are people arguing he was good or even decent yesterday? He missed two easy chances, one of which is almost whiffed completely. But let’s ignore that and look at the rest of the game. He was lined up against a City youth player at RB and didn’t beat him once. He should’ve been running at that kid at every opportunity but he looked either disinterested or unable. The one time I remember him actually taking him 1v1 he looked slow and was easily stopped.
With Rashford it reminds me of Nani back in the day in that, if they’re feeling confident they can be game changers. When they aren’t, they’re invisible at best.
I said he had a decent game, had he scored he'd have played well. He wasn't a problem for the team like he was last season. I expect him to have more involvement when he's got a proper fullback behind him, as we tend to play more down the right when Rashford is more isolated.Exactly! Whether player scores a chance or not is not a good indicator of his performance. I am asking what did he do to make you say he played well, because I don't think he did much.