I've seen it a few times now where some posters say that 22 year olds (eg Memphis) are no longer youngsters and wont develop much more. Video games have ruined some people.
Henrikh Mkhitaryan | BVB confirm transfer
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I've seen it a few times now where some posters say that 22 year olds (eg Memphis) are no longer youngsters and wont develop much more. Video games have ruined some people.
It's widely known that siblings don't matter when it comes to social media and transfer preditions, only WAGs.
True , if siblings mattered we'd have signed griezmann ages ago.
My father has a Turkish name because Christians were oppressed while they were there. His surname is as Armenian as it gets. I get your point though.
Would love for us to sign this guy. Been a huge fan since he played for Shakhtar.
"I don't know much about <insert player name>, but I feel they'll flop/we could do better/not worth it." 
If he comes, he will be a great player and a steal for the prices floating around. Its no surprise that posters who regularly watched him are delighted with the possibility of him joining.
If he comes, he will be a great player and a steal for the prices floating around. Its no surprise that posters who regularly watched him are delighted with the possibility of him joining.
I thought Dortmund encountered quite a lot of teams that put loads of men behind the ball.
Ethnicity however isn't the only factor in determining identity. Its more so a matter of cultural affiliation. If he feels and says he is Italian, was born there, speaks the language natively etc, then he is Italian.
They did. People on here haven't realized that Tuchel's dortmund often has over 60% possession. They do have the ability to break with pace do still, which Mkhi is great at, and will help with Mou as we will look to do that too.
And the name can stay while the genes are diluted a lot.
Talked to a friend of mine who is a Dortmund fan today. He said he's a good player, one that took a long time to get going and one that has a tendency to disappear in the big games. He said with the money we're offering, he'd gladly let him go. He's anything but irreplaceable for them. Do the Dortmund fans on here echo that sentiment @Sphaero @do.ob ?
If we are coming up against packed defenses, surely having a great crosser would be really useful?
Dortmund don't play the same system under Tuchel as they did under Klopp. They're a possession based side now and faced plenty of parked buses.
Mkh can thrive in both systems imo
Mkh can thrive in both systems imo
Your delusion is getting stronger.That's £35m...sounds reasonable
Please could a moderator rename this thread - Mkhitaryan wants to plays with Zlatan ?
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Yeah, pocket change for us but Dortmund would bite woodie's hand for 35m Euros. He would add 5m more to it, if he is feeling generous
I think they sold Hummels for £30m so they probably wouldn't bite woody's hand off for 35m euroYeah, pocket change for us but Dortmund would bite woodie's hand for 35m Euros. He would add 5m more to it, if he is feeling generous
It is annoying how they are Bayern's bitch though and haggle with others
He has missed big chances in big games. The most obvious is the quarter final against Real Madrid in 2014 where he three really good chances.
It's Hamlet, not Giovanni - and Halmet is a common name in Armenia, mostly in pre-80's generation. And both Hamlet and Henrikh are as Armenian as possible.
So has Robben, in bigger games then anyone.
Shit happens, plenty of the best players have games where things just don't go for them.
Not to worry, Midfield Maestro Rooney will be our creative force
Who the feck are we signing, Jane Eyre?
Not too excited about this. We need a big player - someone like Bale, Greizmann, Pogba to make us feared. Ibra is great but we need one more signing of a world class player in his prime.
Agreed. Do Ibrahimovic, Greizmann and Kante and we're
World-class players in their prime believe it or not might not want to join us. Mickey is a top, top player who seems to be reaching his peak, probably only a level below world-class if he can maintain his form.
I don't believe this. I think Griezmann is gettable - and i would consider Kante world class at what he does. There are many others that we can tempt.
Even Mahrez is better than Micky Targarian in that RF/RW position. But we need a world class player and Mahrez isn't that - neither is Micky.
Not realistic enough to get big players like Bale and Pogba and also we need to break a bank to sign one of them. Even Griezmann is still considered to be unrealistic. We don't wanna repeat that Sergio Ramos things again last year. Those big names want to win and they want to be the best. With our current situation we are not good enough for them. Let's have a great season first then start targeting those names
Henrikh Mkhitaryan will be a realistic enough. Great stats last season, versatile, good price for a Bundes League player of the season.
Deluded. How could you possibly think we can attract these big names when we don't even have Champions League football.
Mkhitaryan is a fantastic player and anyone would like to have him. If it was so easy to pluck up world class players City would have bought them all by now.
City did. Even when they didn't have Champions league football. We bought Di Maria when we didn't have CL football as well. The names that I mentioned: Griezmann and Kante are very, very gettable even if the likes of Pogba aren't. That's realistic - not deluded.
Not a chance griezeman will leave a team that's appeared in two out of the last three champions league finals.
Not to mention being coached by possibly the best manager on the planet right now.
I wouldn't be encouraged by the di Maria deal. At the end of the day he was only sold due to Perez deeming his surplus.
Frenchie isn't in the same boat
Di Maria was a one in a million potshot - and look how that turned out. City didn't buy world class players instantly. Kante is realistic, but suggestions of Griezmann are not.
The only world class players wanting to come here would be mercenaries or players that have deep connections with the manager e.g. Zlatan.
Wes Brown who was born and raised in Longsight, Manchester was a Liverpool fan?
I find that hard to believe to be honest. O'Shea was supposed to be a Liverpool fan as a kid though.
While we're at it i remember an interview where Rio said he didn't really support any club as a kid.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/engli...iteds-rio-ferdinand-i-was-a-fan-of-liverpools
What a load of crap. City bought Toure, Silva, Dzeko and even Balotelli (world class at that time) in 2010-11 when they did not have Champions League football.
And how Di Maria turned out has absolutely nothing to do with anything at all. (doesn't help when the manager is anti attacking football). He was a world class player.
Players move to bigger clubs and for more money. It's a profession. Every body wants to make more money in a capitalistic world that we live in. Doesn't automatically make them mercenaries.
None of those players were regarded as world class when they joined City. The idea that Dzeko and Balotelli have ever been considered world class is laughable. Mhkitaryan is of a similar standing to Silva and Toure so I don't really see the issue.
City did what? Signing Robinho? Bellamy? Barry? Bridge? Santa Cruz? Adebayor? They are not even nowhere near Henrikh Mkhitaryan. The next following season their signing Toure, Dzeko and Silva were considered to be the same level as Henrikh Mkhitaryan not in Bale, Pogba and Griezmann level. Tevez joined City because he wanted to join our rival for revenge on Sir Alex.
Kante has one great season only and you called him world class. If that's so then in your point of view Mahrez and Mkhitaryan should be considered to be your world class list due to their one wonder season + their stats is showing that they are one of the best what they do.
BVB are not a counter-attacking team under Tuchel; infact, they are quite the opposite. They play possession football like I thought we would under Van Gaal. Possession football with the ultimate aim to score, not to keep the ball for the heck of it. They had pace to get behind defenses and took risks in the final third of the pitch. The build-up approach was more measured than Klopp's run and gun style, but they were very effective with the ball when it mattered. They were quite pleasing to watch.The closest comparison I can make is to a Wenger team on a good day. (I have a bet with an Arsenal friend that Tuchel would eventually succeed Wenger).
As for Mkhitaryan, I have the same concerns as you. He doesn't look that special a player to me. The stats people bring up from last season are the similar to how, I am guessing, they would have been brought up when we overspent for Mata a couple of years back. Mata had similar crazy numbers in his last season with Chelsea. Players can have an individual season or two that are complete outliers from their overall career. I, personally get a serious Mata vibe from Mkhitaryan. A good player who has the ability to be world class on the day, but doesn't have the personality or the game to be a categorized into a world class player.
The only way this signing makes sense is if he can price him away for under 30m Euros. Kind of a low risk punt.
Im not concerned with this signing. I'm with Jose for this signing. Mainly because I do think we need a no10 role. Just like Jose, Mata isn't favourable in my list. Mata has too many weakness and probably a player who is so limit and full of weakness I have ever known/watched in professional football and even Sir Alex used his weakness to beat Chelsea back then. If Jose thinks Mkhitaryan is the man for our no10 role then I'm with him. He's versatile. The price isn't high. The stats last season was mad. And his first season stats wasn't bad as well. So he's not exactly a one good season player.
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