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Henrikh Mkhitaryan - Do you want him for the reported €38m?


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As always the truth is on the middle. He definitely wasn't in De Bruyne's level on KdB last season at Wolfsburg, but he was better than Mane or even Firminho (in his last season at Buli). He also has never played on Hazard's level (not counting the last season when Hazard was very shit). would also say that he has been better than Kagawa on his last season at BVB (first spell).

Comparable with Valencia at his best IMO. So, quite a good player but not someone who can carry the attack of a very top team.

Yeah, I agree with what you've said. My sentiments exactly.
I still expect Memphis has a good chance to succeed here.
With Ibra coming, Mkhitaryan, Rashford also looking a lot better I don't see him having much of a playing time unless he impresses straight away in the few chances he's given.
 
Yeah, I agree with what you've said. My sentiments exactly.

With Ibra coming, Mkhitaryan, Rashford also looking a lot better I don't see him having much of a playing time unless he impresses straight away in the few chances he's given.
Except none of those three play in the position he does. Give the guy a second chance. When a player like Anderson got 8 fecking years, Memphis can't even get 2? I mean if the cafe dislikes somebody, they talk as if he is fecking satan. We will more than 50 games next season. Thats not going to be enough games for him to get chances?
 
Except none of those three play in the position he does. Give the guy a second chance. When a player like Anderson got 8 fecking years, Memphis can't even get 2? I mean if the cafe dislikes somebody, they talk as if he is fecking satan. We will more than 50 games next season. Thats not going to be enough games for him to get chances?

Except that 50 games next season is a wild guess more than anything.

We have 3 positions where he could possibly play, regardless if it is 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 whatever Jose will be using. He'll be on either flank or up top. For those positions we have Martial, Mkhitaryan, Rashford, Ibra, Januzaj and Mata apart from him - that's 7 players for 3 positions. I don't think Depay would get 50 games next season. He got 45 this year with much less competition for his spot.
 
Except that 50 games next season is a wild guess more than anything.

We have 3 positions where he could possibly play, regardless if it is 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 whatever Jose will be using. He'll be on either flank or up top. For those positions we have Martial, Mkhitaryan, Rashford, Ibra, Januzaj and Mata apart from him - that's 7 players for 3 positions. I don't think Depay would get 50 games next season. He got 45 this year with much less competition for his spot.
Firstly I didn't say he would get 50 games. I said the team as a whole would get 50 games. Thats a wild guess? Really? We have 38 in the league and at least 6 in the Europa. Im confident we would make the knockout rounds. We still have CS, CC and FA Cup. Im also sure we would go two rounds in both those cups. There I got 50. Do you want me to show the math: 38 + 6 (minimum) + 2 (KO round) + CC (2) + FAC (1) + Com. Shield (1) = 50. Voila!

And you saying Januzaj has more chances than Depay? What has he done to deserve more game time than Depay? At least Depay showed up in a few games and have a terrific start to the season. Depay plays on the left wing mostly. Again of all the players you mentioned only Martial plays on the left religiously. Depay can be backup for Martial and if he does well, then the boss has a good problem of fitting him into the team.
 
Firstly I didn't say he would get 50 games. I said the team as a whole would get 50 games. Thats a wild guess? Really? We have 38 in the league and at least 6 in the Europa. Im confident we would make the knockout rounds. We still have CS, CC and FA Cup. Im also sure we would go two rounds in both those cups. There I got 50. Do you want me to show the math: 38 + 6 (minimum) + 2 (KO round) + CC (2) + FAC (1) + Com. Shield (1) = 50. Voila!

And you saying Januzaj has more chances than Depay? What has he done to deserve more game time than Depay? At least Depay showed up in a few games and have a terrific start to the season. Depay plays on the left wing mostly. Again of all the players you mentioned only Martial plays on the left religiously. Depay can be backup for Martial and if he does well, then the boss has a good problem of fitting him into the team.

Yeah, misunderstood you on that point. Thought you meant Depay will get more than 50 games.

Not saying Januzaj will get more chances than Depay, but he's a competitor for his place. Jose doesn't rotate his first team much if they are all fit. I don't see Depay as a starter hence he'd get much less time than this year. That is if he's in Jose's plans at all and he's not sold before the season kicks in.
 
I've learnt form the ADM deal that it's pointless getting too excited about a player until he shows it consistently for United, no matter how good he was for his previous club, great looking deal on paper though assuming it goes through.

Can people stop using ADM as a reason to shit on any big-name signing? ADM wasn't wanted at Real so he had to leave, and he wanted to go to PSG (who couldn't afford him that year). No wonder he played shit, he didn't want to be here! Contrast with Mikhi who has declared this to be his preferred destination so he will undoubtedly put the effort in.

And in any case, ADM in his season with us was our lead assist maker despite being dropped for Ashley Young for much of the season, he didn't try and was still one of our biggest attacking threats.
 
Firstly I didn't say he would get 50 games. I said the team as a whole would get 50 games. Thats a wild guess? Really? We have 38 in the league and at least 6 in the Europa. Im confident we would make the knockout rounds. We still have CS, CC and FA Cup. Im also sure we would go two rounds in both those cups. There I got 50. Do you want me to show the math: 38 + 6 (minimum) + 2 (KO round) + CC (2) + FAC (1) + Com. Shield (1) = 50. Voila!

And you saying Januzaj has more chances than Depay? What has he done to deserve more game time than Depay? At least Depay showed up in a few games and have a terrific start to the season. Depay plays on the left wing mostly. Again of all the players you mentioned only Martial plays on the left religiously. Depay can be backup for Martial and if he does well, then the boss has a good problem of fitting him into the team.
Woah just take a second to relax when presenting your arguments. Noones out to get ya just take it easy on the hostility
 
Except that 50 games next season is a wild guess more than anything.

We have 3 positions where he could possibly play, regardless if it is 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 whatever Jose will be using. He'll be on either flank or up top. For those positions we have Martial, Mkhitaryan, Rashford, Ibra, Januzaj and Mata apart from him - that's 7 players for 3 positions. I don't think Depay would get 50 games next season. He got 45 this year with much less competition for his spot.

Well we have at least 47 games next season. (38 + 6 from Europa, 1 from Charity Shield and +2 from the cups) 50 games isn't really that much of an exaggeration, it'd be a disaster if we played less.
 
Well we have at least 47 games next season. (38 + 6 from Europa, 1 from Charity Shield and +2 from the cups) 50 games isn't really that much of an exaggeration, it'd be a disaster if we played less.
As I said, we were talking about Depay and I though he meant that he'll get 50 games, not the team as a whole.
 
But he's 3 and half years older from the time of purchase (which affects the fee) and only has a year left on his contract. So £30m+ is definitively paying too much, but at this stage I just want quality players in.
Van Persie was 29 and had 1 year left. Cost 24mill. Kroos cost 25 mill with one year left. Since then the market has risen slightly. You don't really get cheap price when they have 1 year off nowadays. Maybe 15 mill off their price
 
I rate him highly. But he's not what we need.

He's a wonderful player for a confident, dominant side, but he cannot fight himself into a game when facing tough opponents. He is not one to diligently do his defensive duties.
His last year was stellar, but when Dortmund was in dire need of inspiration, facing a relegation battle, nhe failed to deliver. He was aweful. Dortmunds late run that season wasnt inspired by him.
He was also poor in thar 2nd half against Liverpool. Look how he lets the corner go past him for liverpools 3:3 equalizer. That kind of passivness under pressure will kill you in the premier league and I'm afraid that characterizes him

We need somebody to immediatly burdon with the task of taking responsibility to lead us to the top.

To me, he is more DiMaria than Cantona
No, we just need quality attacking players in the 3 advanced midfield positions. Martial is a danger. Mickey is a danger, Zlatan is a danger. Now we just need a AMC danger
 
How often have you watched him? Because i can't understand how someone that has watched him regularly can have this opinion.

Hmmm I think I watched about 10 games for him at BVB, he never stood out to me.

How many games have you watched and why do you think he'll be successful at United?

I think Jose will make something of him because I trust him as a manager but again I would have rather had other players.
 
No, we just need quality attacking players in the 3 advanced midfield positions. Martial is a danger. Mickey is a danger, Zlatan is a danger. Now we just need a AMC danger

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Not good enough I am afraid. Neither of them. We need someone of the Fabregas level when he was at Arsenal as a AMC. Goals and Assists galore. Scheijder at Inter Milan. Things need to be too perfect for Mata to succeed.

Fabregas mainly played as a CM with Arsenal, didn't he?
 
Rashford could play AMC maybe.....his link up play is top draw, he can pick a pass, shoot and is strong and a good finder of space.
 
Except that 50 games next season is a wild guess more than anything.

We have 3 positions where he could possibly play, regardless if it is 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 whatever Jose will be using. He'll be on either flank or up top. For those positions we have Martial, Mkhitaryan, Rashford, Ibra, Januzaj and Mata apart from him - that's 7 players for 3 positions. I don't think Depay would get 50 games next season. He got 45 this year with much less competition for his spot.


He'l start the season wide left as Martial will not join up till early august
 
Not good enough I am afraid. Neither of them. We need someone of the Fabregas level when he was at Arsenal as a AMC. Goals and Assists galore. Scheijder at Inter Milan. Things need to be too perfect for Mata to succeed.

Mata was unbelievable in that Chelsea team Benitez won the Europa with. We just haven't managed to get the best out of him but there's still been many moments of class.

I read last season he ran the most of any of our players, maybe it's his relaxed style that the fact he's not a dirty player that give off the impression he doesn't work for the team. I'm hoping José doesn't feel the need to try justify his decision to sell Mata by doing it again.
 
And how is your response any different to his/hers?
Because I'm challenging someone who deserves it. How can people share their views on situations when people just go :lol:. Such an arrogant response when the guy is genuine about his view and when it's not that far fetched to play Rashford behind the striker when I think that's where he played sometimes in youth teams
 
I don't really think Rashford could play attacking midfield at the moment. Sure, he's shown a few fantastic touches in the final third. But he also loses the ball fairly often. An attacking midfielder needs to be a lot more careful and smart with their possession on the ball. Up front or on the wing is probably where he is best at the moment, for good reason. He hasn't shown the vision or creativity with the ball to work as an attacking midfielder or #10 either.
 
Rashford could play AMC maybe.....his link up play is top draw, he can pick a pass, shoot and is strong and a good finder of space.

To me, he is more an attacker than a midfielder, he should play striker or wide forward.
 
Rashford could play AMC maybe.....his link up play is top draw, he can pick a pass, shoot and is strong and a good finder of space.
Lets stop chopping and changing players' positions. He is a striker. His future lies in the #9 position. Then why switch him from there? Just to incorporate him into the side? No we dont need to do that. He will get plenty of opportunities to start as a #9 this season, to prove himself.
 
How is Rashfords left foot? Could he play on the right side in a 4-2-3-1 with martial and mhiki left and center? I know he have played wide right forward for us a bit, but I reckon Mourinhos RW role in that set-up is different from a 4-3-3 wide right forward role.
 
So do we expect Mkhitaryan to play on the right if/when he signs for us or are we still going to be in the market for a right winger?
 
Mkhi is not on a 'whole different level' than Mane. He's more consistent, but Mane has the ability to dominate games in a way Mkhi doesn't. Who will turn out to be the better signing is anyones guess, but let's not pretend there's a big difference in quality between the two. Mane is a very, very good player on his day.
 
He'l start the season wide left as Martial will not join up till early august

EURO ends on the 10th. he'll still have 20 days off even if he misses the community shield Martial should be starting in the first Prem game.

That's assuming we don't buy another forward of course.
 
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