[2 man midfield]

Solid again. Wonder if club will trigger that extension for another year or let him go next summer. Evans may be retiring so perhaps Amorim will want to keep Maguire as an option.

You’d think so. He’s not injury prone, doesn’t make a fuss about being on the bench, and is generally in decent form these days.

 

[Rojofiam]

This !
He doesn't suit the 3 at the back system and is just too slow

Solid enough, but no idea what he was doing for their first goal. He’s great in the air and a lump too, he should be showing aggression and clearing everyone out to win the ball, instead he just bounced in the centre of the goal and watched it go in.

Called him coming off when Yoro came on, I think that might be the game that seals his fate. Too slow.

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[BorisManUtd]

You’d think so. He’s not injury prone, doesn’t make a fuss about being on the bench, and is generally in decent form these days.

Yeah. As bad as this and last season have been, Maguire has rarely been in centre of the (negative) attention. He's actually been one of the better ones when given a chance.

 

[criticalanalysis]

Was solid today, but his dallying on the ball still fecking drives me mad. He sits there like he's going to play some 40 yard line splitter every time instead of just keeping it circulating quickly, and it makes it more difficult on those wide CB's as they are easier to close down.

I thought he was quite decent today and moved the ball a lot quicker than usual. It was de Ligt that I was disappointed with as his body position and time to get the ball out of his feet was slow; he was better after Maguire came off and he went central but the game was gone by that point.

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

I thought he was quite decent today and moved the ball a lot quicker than usual. It was de Ligt that I was disappointed with as his body position and time to get the ball out of his feet was slow; he was better after Maguire came off and he went central but the game was gone by that point.

Yeah MdL just isn't a wide CB. He's not comfortable being as progressive as we need that position to be and he's also to defend a lot of wide spaces that aren't his strength.

 

[criticalanalysis]

Yeah MdL just isn't a wide CB. He's not comfortable being as progressive as we need that position to be and he's also to defend a lot of wide spaces that aren't his strength.

It's his first season and he's come into a cauldron of fire so I don't want to be too critical but I would really wish he picks up a bit more responsibility/decisiveness in his play. It's not like he's not capable as he has shown a fairly decent technical and physical level. It doesn't help playing a system he's not comfortable at all with but meh.

 

[Dominos]

Just maybe, his aerial ability might have helped against Arsenal’s set pieces. They didn’t score in the first half.

They already scored their first goal with him on the pitch.

He also shot himself in the foot as he often does by picking up a completely needless booking so couldn't make a tactical foul for the rest of the game when we were bound to be getting counter attacked on as we chase a goal.

Did well other than the stupid yellow though.

 

[Cabin Clown]

Thought we looked more vulnerable from set pieces when he went off.

 

[Fortitude]

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As a head's up, this is the definition of 'adds nothing to the discussion' and can easily earn you warning points.

 

[Desert Eagle]

Thought he did pretty well. Maybe there is a future for slabhead under Amorim. Some really nice diagonals today.

 

[Rojofiam]

He was excellent as usual in a settled team. And as usual, 99% of the criticism of him is based on irrelevant and made up issues. If anything, yesterday's game proved he's one of the best CCBs you could get for a back 3.

 

[Speako]

Just maybe, his aerial ability might have helped against Arsenal’s set pieces. They didn’t score in the first half.

Suggest you watch him on the first goal. Marshalling fresh air. Ridiculous.

Passed out well from the back though at times, and not his worse game.

 

[Cassidy]

Just maybe, his aerial ability might have helped against Arsenal’s set pieces. They didn’t score in the first half.

I would say we were a bit lucky they didn't score from one in the first half to be honest, saying that he played well

 

[Champ]

They already scored their first goal with him on the pitch.

He also shot himself in the foot as he often does by picking up a completely needless booking so couldn't make a tactical foul for the rest of the game when we were bound to be getting counter attacked on as we chase a goal.

Did well other than the stupid yellow though.

You mean his yellow card where he was trying to eek out as much time so we weren't down to ten players and a defender less for any length of time? That one?

 

[Rojofiam]

Suggest you watch him on the first goal. Marshalling fresh air. Ridiculous.

Passed out well from the back though at times, and not his worse game.

I swear these type of posts cannot be serious.

-Obviously each player has their pre-planned position when defending corners
-Obviously the defending side doesn't know where every ball will end up going to

I suggest that you watch that goal back again.

Do you think he should've wrestled through 3 of his teammates and 2 Arsenal players in order to be able to clear that ball out? All within 2 seconds? Or he should've read Rice's mind and knew in advance that the ball would go to the near post so that he could position himself somewhere else, somewhere Amorim certainly didn't instruct him to go to?

 

[Speako]

I swear these type of posts cannot be serious.

-Obviously each player has their pre-planned position when defending corners
-Obviously the defending side doesn't know where every ball will end up going to

I suggest that you watch that goal back again.

Do you think he should've wrestled through 3 of his teammates and 2 Arsenal players in order to be able to clear that ball out? All within 2 seconds? Or he should've read Rice's mind and knew in advance that the ball would go to the near post so that he could position himself somewhere else, somewhere Amorim certainly didn't instruct him to go to?

I'm absolutely serious. But i've learned to ignore the Harry lovers a long long time ago. He was nowhere. Left flailing. Stood on his own, a yard out, It's not difficult to see. It's his job to get near it. I don't need to watch it again.

 

[Rojofiam]

I'm absolutely serious. But i've learned to ignore the Harry lovers a long long time ago. He was nowhere. Left flailing. Stood on his own, a yard out, It's not difficult to see. It's his job to get near it. I don't need to watch it again.

It literally wasn't his job to get near that particular cross you are talking about. Your counter-argument is "Harry lovers" because you know that if you watch that replay that you're incorrect in your criticism of the player. His responsibility on that corner was clearly the centre of the goal area, not the near post. Typical unjust scapegoating of Maguire

And as usual, 99% of the criticism of him is based on irrelevant and made up issues.

Your post is another perfect example of this

 

[Dominos]

You mean his yellow card where he was trying to eek out as much time so we weren't down to ten players and a defender less for any length of time? That one?

You mean the one where he got himself booked and we were still down to 10 men, and he successfully wasted about 5 seconds?

You're right, genius move.

 

[Speako]

@Rojofiam I saw it clearly live, and I’ve seen it clearly since. He is a 6ft 4 Centre Back who’s job, collectively with the defence, was to get the ball away from the danger area, an area Arsenal were renowned for: watch what he does, or more importantly, doesn’t. He stands alone a yard out , with the ball in the back of the net.

Interestingly, he was subbed shortly after.

We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.

 

[Rojofiam]

@Rojofiam I saw it clearly live, and I’ve seen it clearly since. He is a 6ft 4 Centre Back who’s job, collectively with the defence, was to get the ball away from the danger area, an area Arsenal were renowned for: watch what he does, or more importantly, doesn’t. He stands alone a yard out , with the ball in the back of the net.

Interestingly, he was subbed shortly after.

We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.

https://learning.coachesvoice.com/c...all-tactics-explained-mourinho-conte-simeone/

 

[Champ]

You mean the one where he got himself booked and we were still down to 10 men, and he successfully wasted about 5 seconds?

You're right, genius move.

Better that then having a CB less for another minute,
But it's fine, I get people need to pick apart anything they can when it comes to Maguire.

 

[Speako]

https://learning.coachesvoice.com/cv/zonal-marking-football-tactics-explained-mourinho-conte-

Weak defence, no wonder you like him.

Replay the goal, and wait for the camera behind the net , then hit pause just before Timber heads in. You’ll see Harry as the only defender in no man’s land. Honestly, it’s not difficult. If you really can’t see that, this conversation is pointless, like most in this forum.

As a balanced view, I thought he actually played pretty well, this aside.

 

[Real Name]

Another good performance.

 

[Longshanks]

Suggest you watch him on the first goal. Marshalling fresh air. Ridiculous.

Passed out well from the back though at times, and not his worse game.

Never heard of zonal marking? He good in the air but he can't clear out 10 players to make it to a ball that's not dropping in his zone. That's not how zonal marking works.

 

[Trex]

He had a solid game, we'll need to spend money in other areas so letting go of someone like Maguire isn't good idea.
Our back three options
De ligt, Mazraoui, Martinez, Yoro, Maguire, Shaw, Kukonki is fine going into next season. That's six senior pros. We'll struggle to upgrade in this area, money should be spent elsewhere.

 

[fergiewherearethou]

He was good and I think he is a decent option especially in the middle 3.

 

[Speako]

Never heard of zonal marking? He good in the air but he can't clear out 10 players to make it to a ball that's not dropping in his zone. That's not how zonal marking works.

Been through this already. Suggest you read the posts.

 

[Revival2024]

He had a solid game, we'll need to spend money in other areas so letting go of someone like Maguire isn't good idea.
Our back three options
De ligt, Mazraoui, Martinez, Yoro, Maguire, Shaw, Kukonki is fine going into next season. That's six senior pros. We'll struggle to upgrade in this area, money should be spent elsewhere.

Nah, I think it is a good idea to get rid of Maguire. He was okay against arsenal. Nothing exceptional and has clangers in him. This type of mentality is why Manchester United has remained rotten for seasons. Clinging on to players that simply are not good enough is bad news for United. The same goes for Luke Shaw, Rashford, and the rest of the clan.

 

[erikcred]

Never heard of zonal marking? He good in the air but he can't clear out 10 players to make it to a ball that's not dropping in his zone. That's not how zonal marking works.

Yeah, I don't know what people are moaning about. Unless they wanted him to just join the fray to show passion.

 

[Blood Mage]

Probably our second best CB on the ball. I think he suits that central CB role better than De Ligt who was more impressive in the RCB role yesterday.

 

[DannyCAFC]

Nah, I think it is a good idea to get rid of Maguire. He was okay against arsenal. Nothing exceptional and has clangers in him. This type of mentality is why Manchester United has remained rotten for seasons. Clinging on to players that simply are not good enough is bad news for United. The same goes for Luke Shaw, Rashford, and the rest of the clan.

You have a lot of needs though and it's going to take a number of seasons to get the squad right.

I agree with Trex that there are much greater priorities than CB and so it would probably be best to exercise the +1 option on Maguire and keep him for another year, especially if he's only 4th / 5th choice. He'll be fine for 10-15 games if he's required to come in and cover for injuries to the likes of De Ligt or Yoro.

Bear in mind Lindelof and Evans are also out of contract (both of which I would assume you also agree long-term aren't good enough), getting rid of both Maguire and Shaw would leave you very short in that position given you probably need to make 3-5 key signings elsewhere.

 

[mctrials23]

His biggest issue is still his glacial pace. The rest of his game is fine. You can't be a tugboat in a team that has any aspirations to push up though. As others have said though, CB isn't a priority considering other positions that are far more important.

 

[Kush]

Sums him up

I don't get the praise for him, I saw the same issues as I have in the past. He slowed everything down, took too many touches only to pass it back or sideways. He was a big part of the reason why Arsenal were able to regroup and get back into shape.

 

[sillwuka]

Looked good when he came on

 

[Doracle]

Yeah, think he has to start in that mid CB position. Suits him well and he’s got a better passing range than De Ligt.

 

[Bojan11]

He was fantastic today.

 

[Judas]

Pocketed Haaland. Doesn’t get much love on here but he was fantastic today.

 

[Swedish_Plumber]

Good defender plays well.

 

[golden_blunder]

Thought he was superb. Him and DeLigt, gave little away

 

[Raw]

Hope he stays at the club. He's very reliable.