[Mac1997]

He was awful again last night, his confidence looks completely shot.

You could say that about a lot of our players though.

Cant remember the last time he had a game were there wasn't a bad error that didn't result in a very good chance or a goal.

 

[Moston Red]

He out of his depth, needs to be playing for a lower league team.

Leicester must be still pinching themselves after that transfer fee.

 

[suheilsworld]

Maguire and Shaw should be nowhere close to the starting XI. It’s been appalling week after week

 

[11101]

He should be getting ripped apart in training this morning for getting turned by a 6ft6 lump like Weghorst.

Bad as he can be as a player its his Captaincy I have the biggest issue with. When these decisions go against us where is he? Stood near the referee looking stupid with his hands on his hips, if we are lucky. A good Captain, like the ones we used to have, would be in the refs face backed up by the players making sure the next decision went our way. Like Tarkowski was when he got our perfectly legitimate goal chalked off, and he's not even their Captain. Then to add to that our manager would be in the press afterwards doing the same thing just like Klopp and Pep do now.

 

[OldTrevil]

He also escaped a red card for preventing a clear goal scoring opportunity as the last man, what a calamity of a CB. The fact he's our captain for me is worse than his price tag, it shows that our football is going nowhere

 

[The Corinthian]

He also escaped a red card for preventing a clear goal scoring opportunity as the last man, what a calamity of a CB. The fact he's our captain for me is worse than his price tag, it shows that our football is going nowhere

It wasn’t a red card not by a long stretch.

Putting that to one side, his performance yesterday was so ropey. He’s been in horrid form this season.

 

[Zoo]

He needs to be dropped for the weekend. Rangnick has shown a willingness to make big decisions so hopefully he gets this one right. There are no first choice CB’s and they should all be competing against each other.

 

[Lay]

Out of his depth. Would be a solid defender in a low block team but he’s a hindrance here.

 

[Adam-Utd]

It wasn’t a red card not by a long stretch.

Putting that to one side, his performance yesterday was so ropey. He’s been in horrid form this season.

It quite clearly could have been. Was the last man and made zero attempt to play the ball, just grabbed the attacker by the face and pulled him down.

He was saved that it was on the half way line. He was absolutely dreadful last night.

I can guarantee you NOBODY in the league is getting spun by fecking Weghorst in the future

 

[GoonerInPeace]

I honestly dont understand why he keeps getting picked. We have a similar problem with Xhaka, however the only reason he gets picked is we are bare thin in midfield. You have LIndelof, Bailly and even Jones as alternatives to Maguire.

A sensational error has been made in buying him for 80m. Its almost certain the worst singing in football history, and im really trying to be fair and not exaggerate, but I cannot think of a worse signing . Turning 29 in about a month so no other club would be interested as he is only going to get slower and he doesn't appear to posses a football brain. He is so clumsy and lethargic. It looks as if he plays with dumbbells strapped to is ankles.

Ive heard a few United fans fan send him back to Leicester , but to be honest, I dont think they would want him back. I dont think any top 10 club would have him.

 

[The Corinthian]

It quite clearly could have been. Was the last man and made zero attempt to play the ball, just grabbed the attacker by the face and pulled him down.

He was saved that it was on the half way line. He was absolutely dreadful last night.

I can guarantee you NOBODY in the league is getting spun by fecking Weghorst in the future

It’s way way too far out to be considered a clear goal scoring opportunity. Yellow card was the right call.

Agree on the rest though - being spun by fecking Wehgorst is embarrassing.

 

[Devil may care]

He's got the mobility of C3P0.

 

[Sparky_Hughes]

He's got the mobility of C3P0.

in a magnet factory

 

[kouroux]

It quite clearly could have been. Was the last man and made zero attempt to play the ball, just grabbed the attacker by the face and pulled him down.

He was saved that it was on the half way line. He was absolutely dreadful last night.

I can guarantee you NOBODY in the league is getting spun by fecking Weghorst in the future

I liked his "no no no" finger waving after that foul

 

[Mickeza]

For their goal, Shaw is just as culpable as Maguire if not more.

Yup. Maguire makes a mistake to press when he shouldn’t. That was done in a split second and it happens. It happens far too often this season from him but that’s another story. Luke Shaw can see all this happening and has a good 5 seconds to react and push up. And he does nothing. From the moment Maguire is taken out of the game we were in deep shit and he should have reacted to that.

 

[Smithy89]

He's so bad it's hilarious. Worst captain i've seen in my life time and i wouldn't put him in my top 20 United cb's that i've watched.

Take last night, Tarkowski is even better.

 

[Raven]

He needs a prolonged period away from the first XI, he's doing himself more harm than good right now. Never really liked his style but he used to be a solid enough CB, this season he just seems to be constantly finding new lows.

 

[romufc]

He is rubbish, some school boy defending in the second half. One thing that annoys me about Maguire and Shaw is that they give away so many needless fouls as well.

 

[Smithy89]

He is rubbish, some school boy defending in the second half. One thing that annoys me about Maguire and Shaw is that they give away so many needless fouls as well.

Shaw is as bad if not worse than Maguire, along with AWB i have no idea how they're playing for a supposed big club. Shaw is constantly out of position, baffling the money we spent on them.

 

[RedDevilQuebecois]

People are again just looking for reasons to blame Maguire. He steps up on his man to make a tackle. The moment he does that McTominay should be getting goal side, not trying to make a tackle from behind. He should cover Maguire. Instead, Verane has to step over to cover and completely leaves his man free and he scored the goal. This is all caused by McTominay running into Maguire and not getting goal side and Verane leaving his man (did he even look at him?). But everything is once again Maguire's fault. Amazing how a guy from Canada knows more about football than most of you. By the way, De Gea just got player of the month in a month where the only game Maguire played was against West Ham and that was the only game De Gea didn't have to do anything. But go on...tell me again how Maguire is the problem

Seriously, this is embarrassing for a defence of the guy. A centre-back's job is like a safety in American football - to cover people, and Maguire is hands down one of the worst we ever had.

 

[12OunceEpilogue]

Yup. Maguire makes a mistake to press when he shouldn’t. That was done in a split second and it happens. It happens far too often this season from him but that’s another story. Luke Shaw can see all this happening and has a good 5 seconds to react and push up. And he does nothing. From the moment Maguire is taken out of the game we were in deep shit and he should have reacted to that.

They're both struggling badly and I would guess adversely affecting each other. Their side is anxiety-inducing to watch every game these days, just all over the place.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Maybe you're the one everyone is forced to like.

Why are you being so salty and upset all of sudden?

 

[Ruud89]

In terms of ability, Phil Jones is still ahead of him. Play him!

Couldnt agree more. Goldbridge said the same thing in the post match video

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Guys, Is it true he weighs 100kgs? Like seriously?

 

[Adam-Utd]

I liked his "no no no" finger waving after that foul

I genuinely wonder if he thinks he's being sly. He's probably watched Fernandinho and thought, yeah I can get away with those too.

Unfortunately clotheslining attackers and getting them in sleeper holds isn't quite so obscure.

I think it's fair to say whatever injury he had before the euros has really badly effected him. What I don't get is why he didn't make these stupid errors for England?

 

[Andrew7582]

I genuinely wonder if he thinks he's being sly. He's probably watched Fernandinho and thought, yeah I can get away with those too.

Unfortunately clotheslining attackers and getting them in sleeper holds isn't quite so obscure.

I think it's fair to say whatever injury he had before the euros has really badly effected him. What I don't get is why he didn't make these stupid errors for England?

He had the usain bolt of football Kyle Walker sweeping things up behind him in the 3 back system, along with two dm's in front.

 

[James35]

Pound for pound looking like the worst signing in our history.

This.

 

[Adam-Utd]

He had the usain bolt of football Kyle Walker sweeping things up behind him in the 3 back system, along with two dm's in front.

A good point. He's much better where he can be a human bollard.

 

[Fortitude]

He had the usain bolt of football Kyle Walker sweeping things up behind him in the 3 back system, along with two dm's in front.

And they sit deep and protect the CB's at all costs.

His need to make split-second, game deciding decisions is reduced considerably for England.

 

[Sylar]

I'm going to go against the perceived wisdom of this thread and say that Maguire wasn't 100% at fault for the goal. I think his lack of pace in his recovery run opened him up for some undeserved criticism. Read an interesting thread in twitter which highlighted that whilst Maguire made a mistake for the Burnley goal, the real issue was caused further up the pitch. It was one error after another which led to the goal.

Essentially, given the way United set up, and that we lack a screening midfielder, we have no player who sits deep enough to cut out opposition passes. Pogba and McTominay left too much space in the centre of the pitch which Burnley exploited. Weghorst dropped deeper and Maguire was forced to follow. Then he collided into McTominay who, rather than covering the area Maguire vacated, charges at Weghorst who was actually covered by Maguire.

I agree, he wasnt 100% at fault. But he still at fault.
As was Shaw (step the feck up). and again, we are being countered on. A sneaky foul in a certain place here or there when our midfield is so high up... Why is this so difficult to do? Somebody tripup their player, pull a shirt, put a block in. Something. You cant let both man and ball go when youre exposed like that.
We dont have enough intelligent players in these situations.

Maguire however is a problem for us, and given its his thread, we should look at how bad he is in situations like this.

 

[Leftback99]

I'm going to go against the perceived wisdom of this thread and say that Maguire wasn't 100% at fault for the goal. I think his lack of pace in his recovery run opened him up for some undeserved criticism. Read an interesting thread in twitter which highlighted that whilst Maguire made a mistake for the Burnley goal, the real issue was caused further up the pitch. It was one error after another which led to the goal.

Essentially, given the way United set up, and that we lack a screening midfielder, we have no player who sits deep enough to cut out opposition passes. Pogba and McTominay left too much space in the centre of the pitch which Burnley exploited. Weghorst dropped deeper and Maguire was forced to follow. Then he collided into McTominay who, rather than covering the area Maguire vacated, charges at Weghorst who was actually covered by Maguire.

It's calamitous from start to finish, another wasteful attack, dreadful midfield covering, big mistake from Maguire and the rest of the defence poor as well.

 

[Revan]

It is absurd that we have a quite better defender in the bench, while playing this calamity any time he is fit.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

It is absurd that we have a quite better defender in the bench, while playing this calamity any time he is fit.

I wouldn’t even dare to put my life on to say Lindelof is better than Maguire, would you? None of them good enough apart from Varane.

 

[SadlerMUFC]

How could Varane do anything else than get between Weghorst and the net? You would have preferred for him to leave a corridor to De Gea in the middle of the box?

Read my post again. First off, Verane doesn't even look at Verane. He completely ignores him. It's almost like he doesn't even know he's there, because he's ball watching. But the moment where the screw up happens is because of McTominay. He tries to tackle from behind when Maguire is stepping up on his man. Mc Tominay then gets in Maguire's way. McTominay should be ignoring the player and getting goal side and backing Maguire up.

Seriously, this is embarrassing for a defence of the guy. A centre-back's job is like a safety in American football - to cover people, and Maguire is hands down one of the worst we ever had.

Tell me what i've said here that is wrong and doesn't just go against your agenda

 

[Desert Eagle]

The first 2 seconds of that clip, look at his eyes. Like a fecking rabbit in the headlights. Thats how he plays also. Out of his depth here

That's our fecking captain.

 

[SadlerMUFC]

How could Varane do anything else than get between Weghorst and the net? You would have preferred for him to leave a corridor to De Gea in the middle of the box?

Read my post again. First off, Verane doesn't even look at Verane. He completely ignores him. It's almost like he doesn't even know he's there, because he's ball watching. But the moment where the screw up happens is because of McTominay. He tries to tackle from behind when Maguire is stepping up on his man. Mc Tominay then gets in Maguire's way. McTominay should be ignoring the player and getting goal side and backing Maguire up.

even your own description of what happened shows the obvious mistake

Yes it does....The obvoius mistake is that McTominay goes in for a tackle that he shouldn't and Verane doesn't mark his man. McTominay takes Maguire out of the play trying to tackle Maguire's man. When Maguire steps up, McTominay should get goal side of Maguire, not also try and tackle. And Verane should be marking Rodriguez, not ball watching. But everyone wants to blame Maguire for everyting so they look for excuses to blame him...

 

[Revan]

I wouldn’t even dare to put my life on to say Lindelof is better than Maguire, would you? None of them good enough apart from Varane.

He has been better during their spell here except the second half of last season.

This season, Maguire has been arguably the worst player in the league and the worst starter I have ever seen in a United shirt. He is at least partially to blame for pretty much every goal we concede.

 

[Mike Smalling]

The decision to make him captain when he had barely kicked a ball for us has to be Ole's worst here.

Buying him was arguably an even worse decision.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

He has been better during their spell here except the second half of last season.

This season, Maguire has been arguably the worst player in the league and the worst starter I have ever seen in a United shirt. He is at least partially to blame for pretty much every goal we concede.

However, form is only temporary so Maguire can still be better than Lindelof when his form is clicked again but at the end of the day neither are good enough anyway. Both always make mistakes in important moment.

 

[Revan]

However, form is only temporary so Maguire can still be better than Lindelof when his form is clicked again but at the end of the day neither are good enough anyway. Both always make mistakes in important moment.

He has been utter crap during his time here except the second half of last season. So yes, form is only temporary and he regressed back to his previous self after playing pretty good for a few months.