Hopefully a turning point from the ridiculous witch hunt our own fans have bought into.
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He has been rightly criticised recently but there's a line and I reckon it has now been crossed. Booing your own players is a disgrace.
Why would the England fans boo Maguire? He always plays well for England.
Fuxking hell, drop a player who’s been a stalwart in his team, who has always played well for him, and who was an integral part of the team that took England to their first final in over half a century. You’d be one fickle as feck manager.
Get out.
Just because he's been stupidly booed by England fans doesn't excuse the piss poor season he's had for us. I can't deal with people like yourself who will now use this as an opportunity to give him more rope.
We are not doing him any favours by refusing to take him out of the spotlight by dropping him or giving the captaincy to somebody else.
He may be terribly off form, but we are really not helping him recover by consistently making him the beacon of our collective failure.
He may be terribly off form, but we are really not helping him recover by consistently making him the beacon of our collective failure.
There absolutely has been a witch hunt against Maguire this season. He hasn't played well this year and made a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes. But he's also getting blamed for things he simply hasn't had a part in.
This forum has posters going out of their way to say why X goal conceded was Maguire's fault, when there were half a dozen errors made by other players in the build up. It's embarrassing to be a part of this community at this stage.
This forum has posters going out of their way to say why X goal conceded was Maguire's fault, when there were half a dozen errors made by other players in the build up. It's embarrassing to be a part of this community at this stage.
He’s been good for England though. He’s getting booed by England fans because he’s been crap for his club this season??
Agreed with this. It is embarrassing and there is evidence that this fan base has a witch hunt against Maguire. Yes, performances haven't been good but like you say, fans use clips that suit their agenda.
A classic example is the Maguire at England training, there is a short clip that is being used to make it look like he can't do Rondo's, if you watch the full clip, it paints a different picture.
Just shows how Manutd fans have created this agenda which has now spilled over to England.
Like Southgate said, every action he does on the pitch is analysed to death and no other player gets the same scrutiny. Even 8 second cuts from training clips are used to attack him.
Some seriously red-tinted spectacles are being worn in this thread 
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Yes, it's all an agenda. Nothing to do with the numerous goal-conceding mistakes and full season of absolutely awful performances.
In fairness the insults and scale of the criticism is unfair...but him getting some flack for being so poor is not unexpected really.
.Yes, it's all an agenda. Nothing to do with the numerous goal-conceding mistakes and full season of absolutely awful performances.
In fairness the insults and scale of the criticism is unfair...but him getting some flack for being so poor is not unexpected really.
It doesn't really make sense when he's not made these mistakes for England. Southgate trusts him and until he lets him down I imagine he will continue to do so. Pickford has had similar backing despite plenty of gaffes for Everton.Some seriously red-tinted spectacles are being worn in this thread
Yes, it's all an agenda. Nothing to do with the numerous goal-conceding mistakes and full season of absolutely awful performances.
In fairness the insults and scale of the criticism is unfair...but him getting some flack for being so poor is not unexpected really.
the vast majority of people who go to England games wouldn’t know or care what some guy is doing in Serie A
All the drama and emotional tripe aside, he's been awful this season for the most part.
I don't think anyone is saying he hasn't warranted criticism. He has because he's been very poor for the majority of this season. It's, as you say yourself, the insults and the way people seemingly go out of their way to blame everything on him.Some seriously red-tinted spectacles are being worn in this thread
Yes, it's all an agenda. Nothing to do with the numerous goal-conceding mistakes and full season of absolutely awful performances.
In fairness the insults and scale of the criticism is unfair...but him getting some flack for being so poor is not unexpected really.
Like, what was the point in booing him for England when he's been one of our most reliable players for years; resulting in two very promising tournaments after years of rubbish? It's here at United where he's made all the mistakes.
I'm not just saying this because I like Maguire either. I felt the same way with Fellaini. I was no fan of his, but I remember him getting sarcastic cheers and stuff at Old Trafford and hated it.
Joke of fans booing him for England.
He’s clearly a confidence player - I can’t see this helping him in any way for the rest of the season.
He’s clearly a confidence player - I can’t see this helping him in any way for the rest of the season.
This is the part I don't understand. Maguire has been comically bad for United at times this season but booing him when most England fans actively dislike United is just bizarre.
It's soul destroying isn't it? I feel sorry for Harry, and also for myself for living in a world where people are so quick and willing to jump on any train that allows them to be mad about something. This is a player that was selected in the team of the tournament mere months ago
You can't see the difference between "some flak for being poor" and being booed or jeered for literally being announced in a team line up?Some seriously red-tinted spectacles are being worn in this thread
Yes, it's all an agenda. Nothing to do with the numerous goal-conceding mistakes and full season of absolutely awful performances.
In fairness the insults and scale of the criticism is unfair...but him getting some flack for being so poor is not unexpected really.
Exactly. United fans are the ones making the memes, videos of his poor plays and even taking small clips from England training, some of it is just clips to further the agenda.
Its funny because we are starting to see it with Bruno as well now.
This must be the only fan base that looks to have a go at their players during a bad patch rather than supporting them.
Roy Keane said it right - There's going to be idiots at football matches, and England fans include a lot of idiots.
Good boy Harry, ignore all the idiots. Wouldn’t actually surprise me if the booing England fans were actually United “fans”.
Do you know who is truly blame for all this? Ole. I was a staunch Ole supporter. I backed his decision to push Maguire. But as evidenced by the last 2 years, to be Manchester United captain you need steel, skill and a huge voice. Maguire is lacking in all 3. Making captain was a disastrous mistake because not only is he being hounded for his failures and the team's, it's exacerbated by the fact that he is MANCHESTER UNITED CAPTAIN!
You don't just need the team's approval, you need the fans. Before him it was Ashley Young, who was boisterous. Tony Valencia, who was well loved and never gave up but not quite captaincy material. Wayne Rooney, Michael Carrick, Vidic, Gary Neville, Keane, Cantona, Bruce and Robson in the Premier league era were all powerful figures in their own right.
Maguire will always be judged against players of that ilk. Wrong place and wrong time is his fate sadly. I feel sorry for him. Blame Ole.
You don't just need the team's approval, you need the fans. Before him it was Ashley Young, who was boisterous. Tony Valencia, who was well loved and never gave up but not quite captaincy material. Wayne Rooney, Michael Carrick, Vidic, Gary Neville, Keane, Cantona, Bruce and Robson in the Premier league era were all powerful figures in their own right.
Maguire will always be judged against players of that ilk. Wrong place and wrong time is his fate sadly. I feel sorry for him. Blame Ole.
Wasn’t he one of England’s best players in the run to the Euro final? He has issues at United but England fans booing him is very weird.
The booing was probably from Manure fans trying to sully the good name of England supporters.
And they said United is only supported by foreigners!
I'm sure you lot can invent reasons to blame Ole for the Russian invasion of Ukraine, water scarcity in Somalia, Boko Haram and Janet Jackson's sagging tits.
I can't understand why booing players is such a taboo in England. Football is an emotional game and that's one of the very few ways fans have to make their voice heard. We're not in North Korea after all.
Having said that there's no reason why England fans should be booing Maguire. He's been doing well for them.
Having said that there's no reason why England fans should be booing Maguire. He's been doing well for them.
Funny as I've seen people make the same "no other player" excuse for so many other players. Almost like it isn't true.
He isn't getting unfair treatment he's just facing the reality of being under scrutiny whilst in extended poor form. Shock horror.
He doesn't deserve to be booed but he's earned the focus and criticism he's been getting.
So... he is getting unfair treatment.
People seem to be saying it's because he shouldn't be picked for the England squad based on what he's been doing this season, when there are other players who have played much better this season didn't get a call up. So they are booing the fact he's being picked on name alone rather than his performances, same old with England really
Fantastic pass last night to Kane late on, shame it didn't result in a goal.
If you want to focus on a few seconds of booing rather than this supposed witchhunt some are claiming then yeah sure.
Joke of an argument. Truth is, he has played well for England and that’s why he is getting picked. Simple.
Sterling hardly played for City last season but was a starter at the Euros. Pickford always gets selected regardless of his club form. Stones didn’t play earlier this season for City but got selected for England (which even led to Klopp complaining that apparently his player isn’t getting the same “favourable” treatment).
As long as the players play well for England they will continue to play for England. Really not hard to understand.
Sterling hardly played for City last season but was a starter at the Euros. Pickford always gets selected regardless of his club form. Stones didn’t play earlier this season for City but got selected for England (which even led to Klopp complaining that apparently his player isn’t getting the same “favourable” treatment).
As long as the players play well for England they will continue to play for England. Really not hard to understand.
If they were booing the likes of Mings, Pickford and Shaw too that might make sense but they weren't.
I think at the time, apart from it being very early into Maguire's career here, it wasn't that bad a decision. He started well and looked like a leader when we were crying out for some. In hindsight it's been a terrible decision because not only has he shrunk but we also got in more leaders and a bit more patience in naming a permanent captain would have been a better idea.
He is under ridiculous scrutiny and has been since the day he joined. We've seen it before granted, but rarely to this extent. Since he's in a position where he will have a good game and people will literally pull out a picture of him looking the wrong way in one instance and use it to hammer him even though it is completely out of context (case in point, the ridiculous "no look defending" meme where in reality he was the only one of the back 4 actually doing his job properly), the same goes for the shite on TikTok where you see 3 second clips of things that ordinarily wouldn't be looked at on because they are normal everyday instances in a game and without context they are pointless. This has been going on for years now and even encapsulates the times he has been playing well.
There is a difference between scrutiny and witch hunt. Maguire is a witch hunt at this point.
United fans taking a England video editing to the final 3 seconds which helps their agenda. If you watch the full clip it clearly shows him being totally comfortable in a rondo.
I have seen videos highlighting every mistake he has made, every goal we concede is his fault as if there is not 10 men on the pitch.
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