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It's not so much whether Spurs ''care'' about United or a similar financial giants' money. It's whether Kane will. And he certainly will, sooner or later, expect to be paid in the Rooney type wages band.

Maybe Spurs will change their entire business model in a year, and give him the going rate - he looks like a £250k pw+ player to me. Superstar, scores all the goals.

Most likely, they won't and he will leave. Not this coming season, but probably next.

Don't be deluded. It is entirely about the money. As Muller put it, ultimately it is a player's job and career. Of course, making as much dough as possible is a key factor.

You cannot expect a player who could EASILY earn £250-300k tomorrow at United/Real/City, etc. to stay happy, medium term, on £70k or £150k or even £200k.

As I've said before, This is where Man. Utd - and some Man. fans - get it so wrong. Because of your wealth you've fallen into the money trap .... here's some examples

* You pay astronomical wages to Rooney, although he now contributes relatively little to the team and can't now be moved on because of those wages.
* You commit to paying anything up to close to £60m for a talented teenager (Martial), but ignore the likes of Dele Alli for £5m
* You spend much of your transfer windows chasing 'galactico' or big-name signings, mostly don't succeed, but when you do it's for an over-the-hill player (e.g. Schweinsteiger) looking for one last big pay-day.
* You neglect your scouting, player recruitment and youth development systems ... because the main focus is on buying your way to success.

Spurs will never pay Kane £250-300k per week (nor any other player for that matter). I expect he'll be offered (and will sign) an improved contract this summer for around £100k. I also think he'll be very happy with that, with continuing to play for Spurs and with the prospect of playing in the CL next season.

If he eventually leaves to go abroad for the likes of RM and bigger wages (which won't be anytime soon), then so be it. Spurs would then get a bucket load of money, invest some of it in further improving our youth development system and see the next batch of quality players rise up through the ranks.
 
It's not so much whether Spurs ''care'' about United or a similar financial giants' money. It's whether Kane will. And he certainly will, sooner or later, expect to be paid in the Rooney type wages band.

Maybe Spurs will change their entire business model in a year, and give him the going rate - he looks like a £250k pw+ player to me. Superstar, scores all the goals.

Most likely, they won't and he will leave. Not this coming season, but probably next.

Don't be deluded. It is entirely about the money. As Muller put it, ultimately it is a player's job and career. Of course, making as much dough as possible is a key factor.

You cannot expect a player who could EASILY earn £250-300k tomorrow at United/Real/City, etc. to stay happy, medium term, on £70k or £150k or even £200k.

He seems very level-headed and is adored by their faithful. I'm not sure whether money will be a significant factor for him. With the new TV deal coming in, Spurs will reward him. Someone else may offer more but he may not want to leave.

I think the future of Pochetinno will pay a key role on him and the other youngsters at the club. If Poch stays for the long term and fulfils his vision, Spurs will be performing at the top end of the Premier League regularly, no question about that.

If Poch takes what he feels is the next step in his career i.e. Madrid/Barca then that can lead to a spiral effect because he's the catalyst for Spurs making waves.
 
@GlastonSpur Eriksen is supposed to be earning +100k per week, so with the new influx of money I wouldn't be surprised to see the Spurs pay Kane between 150k-200k, that's not impossible.
 
Come on man , Bale won the 4th place trophy. What has Kane ever done?

But seriously, I love Kane. I think he's as influential as Bale was. It's a shame they don't play on the same team. One thing Kane over Lukaku is the ability to involve the people around him, Rooney had that at his peak, excellent awareness of men around him and the ability to release the ball at the right time. Lewandowski and RVP are the best at it. Kane has that too, classic no.9 attribute.

Somehow I doubt he'd come to United (Levy etc.). Guess it will be Shearer all over again.
 
Back to back seasons of high quality forward play and stacks of goals.... If I'm his advisor this is the summer to make the big move.

If he stays at Spurs next year all sorts of things can go wrong: manager leaves, team loses mojo or maybe he becomes a 2 hit wonder.

If I was his advisor I'd tell him Either spurs pay him £200k per week or he moves.

If he moves, United, Chelsea, Madrid, maybe even City all need a top striker. Market is perfect for him (and Lukaku)
 
Another high quality finish today, I'd rather we broke to world record on him than spend £65M on Lukaku, his all round game is class.
 
Back to back seasons of high quality forward play and stacks of goals.... If I'm his advisor this is the summer to make the big move.

If he stays at Spurs next year all sorts of things can go wrong: manager leaves, team loses mojo or maybe he becomes a 2 hit wonder.

If I was his advisor I'd tell him Either spurs pay him £200k per week or he moves.

If he moves, United, Chelsea, Madrid, maybe even City all need a top striker. Market is perfect for him (and Lukaku)

He's under contract - he can't just go. And plenty of things can go wrong at lots other clubs too - I doubt Kane sees much greener grass elsewhere right now.
 
As I've said before, This is where Man. Utd - and some Man. fans - get it so wrong. Because of your wealth you've fallen into the money trap .... here's some examples

* You pay astronomical wages to Rooney, although he now contributes relatively little to the team and can't now be moved on because of those wages.
* You commit to paying anything up to close to £60m for a talented teenager (Martial), but ignore the likes of Dele Alli for £5m
* You spend much of your transfer windows chasing 'galactico' or big-name signings, mostly don't succeed, but when you do it's for an over-the-hill player (e.g. Schweinsteiger) looking for one last big pay-day.
* You neglect your scouting, player recruitment and youth development systems ... because the main focus is on buying your way to success.

Spurs will never pay Kane £250-300k per week (nor any other player for that matter). I expect he'll be offered (and will sign) an improved contract this summer for around £100k. I also think he'll be very happy with that, with continuing to play for Spurs and with the prospect of playing in the CL next season.

If he eventually leaves to go abroad for the likes of RM and bigger wages (which won't be anytime soon), then so be it. Spurs would then get a bucket load of money, invest some of it in further improving our youth development system and see the next batch of quality players rise up through the ranks.
Well this is just wrong, considering we give more chances to our young players then any other team. But I do get your general point that people have started thinking that just having money is enough to turn other players' heads. Money does eventually make its mark, like it has for City, Chelsea, PSG, Real Madrid, etc., but it doesn't make every player leave their current club if the team isn't in a good shape atm.
 
Money is the name of the game.

We are not talking about small differences here. Sure, players might accept slightly lower wages to play for their preferred clubs. But double or triple? No.

You can't keep players happy without paying them a fair market wage.

It doesn't happen.

He will be earning mega money somewhere in the next year.
 
The opinions in this thread seem kind of ironic how we normally criticise "mercenaries" on here when they sign with Chelsea/City/Real.
 
The opinions in this thread seem kind of ironic how we normally criticise "mercenaries" on here when they sign with Chelsea/City/Real.

You have to admire KingMinger's efforts though. My bet is he's made about 100 posts about Kane and all follow the same pattern: first he mentions that we absolutely must get him, then he somewhat contradicts himself saying that Tottenham won't sell him even for 100 mln quid+ and then he says that we must get him again for whatever money.
 
He's under contract - he can't just go. And plenty of things can go wrong at lots other clubs too - I doubt Kane sees much greener grass elsewhere right now.

Sure they can but he'd be on a 5 year £250k per week contract. Thats the key point.
 
The opinions in this thread seem kind of ironic how we normally criticise "mercenaries" on here when they sign with Chelsea/City/Real.

Who is we? there's countless posters on this forum, bit unfair to paint everyone with the same brush. Also given United's current situation I don't see what's wrong in being positive about something at least. It's a fact that the club is a money making machine, and if we're to get back to the top I feel we'll need to capitalise on that because we currently can't rely on much else. Would you complain if Kane' head was turned by the prospect of making more money at United, the club you love? I certainly wouldn't.
 
As I've said before, This is where Man. Utd - and some Man. fans - get it so wrong. Because of your wealth you've fallen into the money trap .... here's some examples

* You pay astronomical wages to Rooney, although he now contributes relatively little to the team and can't now be moved on because of those wages.
* You commit to paying anything up to close to £60m for a talented teenager (Martial), but ignore the likes of Dele Alli for £5m
* You spend much of your transfer windows chasing 'galactico' or big-name signings, mostly don't succeed, but when you do it's for an over-the-hill player (e.g. Schweinsteiger) looking for one last big pay-day.
* You neglect your scouting, player recruitment and youth development systems ... because the main focus is on buying your way to success.

Spurs will never pay Kane £250-300k per week (nor any other player for that matter). I expect he'll be offered (and will sign) an improved contract this summer for around £100k. I also think he'll be very happy with that, with continuing to play for Spurs and with the prospect of playing in the CL next season.

If he eventually leaves to go abroad for the likes of RM and bigger wages (which won't be anytime soon), then so be it. Spurs would then get a bucket load of money, invest some of it in further improving our youth development system and see the next batch of quality players rise up through the ranks.
If Kane doesn't get a 200k/week contract within the summer of 2017, I think that he'll be off. He might love Spurs, yada yada, but in the end money will talk.

I remember that you were convinced that Bale won't leave Spurs and were as sure as now for Kane, and in the end of the season he left.

For what is worth, I don't think that Kane will join United, mainly because Levy is a pain in the arse, but if Madrid offers 80m or so, then he'll leave you. If that doesn't happen, then we can see a bidding war between Chelsea and the two Manchester clubs. The other option is of course, for Spurs to pay a lot of money to him and to continue being competitive. I think that both of these things have a very small likelihood of happening, with or without the new stadium, sponsorship and Pochetino.
 
150 million

For Kane and Ali. Would you do push the button if the club were willing?
Nope. You can get Griezmann and Reus (to name a few) for less than that, and either of them is better than Kane, and far better than Ali.
 
I was one of those who thought that it would be 'beyond stupid' to spunk 50m on him last summer. Was I wrong..:wenger:

I was skeptical that he would be able to match his premier league goal tally anytime soon. Think he has already equaled, or may be exceeded it after the goal last night, the number of PL goals he scored last season.

He is a pure goal scorer, and they are like gold dust. Would prefer him over any other striker right now.
 
If Kane doesn't get a 200k/week contract within the summer of 2017, I think that he'll be off. He might love Spurs, yada yada, but in the end money will talk.

I remember that you were convinced that Bale won't leave Spurs and were as sure as now for Kane, and in the end of the season he left.

For what is worth, I don't think that Kane will join United, mainly because Levy is a pain in the arse, but if Madrid offers 80m or so, then he'll leave you. If that doesn't happen, then we can see a bidding war between Chelsea and the two Manchester clubs. The other option is of course, for Spurs to pay a lot of money to him and to continue being competitive. I think that both of these things have a very small likelihood of happening, with or without the new stadium, sponsorship and Pochetino.
Kane will never join Chelsea so that wont happen.
 
I was one of those who thought that it would be 'beyond stupid' to spunk 50m on him last summer. Was I wrong..:wenger:

I was skeptical that he would be able to match his premier league goal tally anytime soon. Think he has already equaled, or may be exceeded it after the goal last night, the number of PL goals he scored last season.

He is a pure goal scorer, and they are like gold dust. Would prefer him over any other striker right now.

Yes, he's now scored 22 league goals, compared to 21 last season. But he still has some way to go to match last seasons tally of 31 goals in all competitions (he's currently on 25).
 
If Kane doesn't get a 200k/week contract within the summer of 2017, I think that he'll be off. He might love Spurs, yada yada, but in the end money will talk.

I remember that you were convinced that Bale won't leave Spurs and were as sure as now for Kane, and in the end of the season he left.

For what is worth, I don't think that Kane will join United, mainly because Levy is a pain in the arse, but if Madrid offers 80m or so, then he'll leave you. If that doesn't happen, then we can see a bidding war between Chelsea and the two Manchester clubs. The other option is of course, for Spurs to pay a lot of money to him and to continue being competitive. I think that both of these things have a very small likelihood of happening, with or without the new stadium, sponsorship and Pochetino.

It's a different situation to Bale, because Kane grew up with Spurs, is a local lad and has been with the club pretty much all of his footballing life (apart from a brief interlude with Arsenal's academy, aged 8) ... and even with Bale it took a world record fee.

I think Kane will want to play for Spurs in the new stadium when it opens for the 2018-19 season. After that, who knows.
 
Its more depend on Levy,businessmen love to sell his asset at right time, may be to Real Madrid or if our offer looks tempting then we might land him,Woody wouldn't mind spending.But i don't see anything would happen by this summer,player had no intention to move nor the management want to sell him now.One thing for sure is that they would get more than what they had received for Bale.
 
Bottom line is no matter how much he loves his club or even how well Spurs do, he is going to leave in a season or absolute max two for his proper pay day.

Unless Spurs find a way to pay him the market rate for a top player - as United, Arsenal, City and Chelsea do. That is currently £250-300k. In a year or two it could be north of that.

On some level I hope they do. I think it would be good for the league.
 
Bottom line is no matter how much he loves his club or even how well Spurs do, he is going to leave in a season or absolute max two for his proper pay day.

Unless Spurs find a way to pay him the market rate for a top player - as United, Arsenal, City and Chelsea do. That is currently £250-300k. In a year or two it could be north of that.

On some level I hope they do. I think it would be good for the league.
Chelsea's top earner is on 200K. Only the Manchester clubs are paying those wages.
 
What about Sanchez and Ozil?

Chelsea will pay top whack though, even if their current highest earner is just shy of it.
 
KANE SHOULD SEIZE ON MAN UTD OR MADRID INTEREST - SHERINGHAM

By David Manuca

The former Spurs striker believes the sought-after England international should seriously consider any potential transfer opportunities that arise this summer
Tottenham striker Harry Kane should think long and hard if the opportunity arises to sign with Manchester United or Real Madrid but ultimately avail himself to a top club, according to Terry Sheringham.

Kane has established himself as one of the best strikers in the Premier League in the past two seasons.

The England international has scored 22 goals in his last 26 league appearances, helping Tottenham mount a serious challenge for their first title since 1960-1961.

But Sheringham believes Kane should seriously consider leaving White Hart Lane if the opportunity comes up to move to a bigger club.

"I'm sure there are top clubs looking at him and they'd be prepared to break the bank just because of the way he plays and the way he wants to score goals every time he gets the ball," former Tottenham and United striker Sheringham told the Daily Mail.

"Should he move right now? I don't know. Timing's a funny thing in football because you have to take the opportunity when it arises.

"If you don't, another striker might go to United or Real Madrid or whoever we're talking about and you won't get the chance again for another four or five years.

"You've only got a period of about 12 years in professional football and when these things come along you have to take tough decisions.

"Sometimes they feel right and you have to go with the flow."
 
Despite the win, quiet today (as he usually is against us). I'm still not on board with the hype that he's a £100m+ type player.
 
^No one is worth that unless your name is Messi.

Thought he got contained quite well by Smalling and Blind but at the same time he did alright in his own things and didn't vanish in the game. Absoloutely Utd quality.
 
This guy is top, top class.

I would hate to see Real make a move for him. He fits their profile - golden boy of the PL. No idea if he has a desire to go abroad but the money and prestige on offer would be hard to turn down.
 
What's baffling to me is people who can't look past a player's age. 35 goals, at least 14 assists in 39 appearances this season. World class technical ability and a winner. The type of player who can put us in title contention by himself. All that for a free transfer vs a likely record fee that it would take to get Kane. Statistically and by reputation, Ibra is easily a better player than Kane and its not even close.


I think the English bias is too strong for some posters here who can't fathom the idea of why someone could prefer Zlatan over Kane, given the circumstances. But I'm not English so I dont have to see it that way.


This is honestly one of the worst posts I've ever read on the caf. English bias makes someone prefer Kane to Ibra?
 
I was quite sceptical about him but he proved his doubters wrong. Scoring 20+ goals in the league two consecutive seasons is very impressive. And he's close to two consecutive 30+ seasons in all compts. And all this before turning 23. For instance, M. Owen never scored 20+ goals in the league, Rooney has done it only twice but not in consecutive seasons. Credit to the lad.
 
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If he doesn't destroy his career by going to Real, he'l be a terrific player.
 
What's baffling to me is people who can't look past a player's age. 35 goals, at least 14 assists in 39 appearances this season. World class technical ability and a winner. The type of player who can put us in title contention by himself. All that for a free transfer vs a likely record fee that it would take to get Kane. Statistically and by reputation, Ibra is easily a better player than Kane and its not even close.


I think the English bias is too strong for some posters here who can't fathom the idea of why someone could prefer Zlatan over Kane, given the circumstances. But I'm not English so I dont have to see it that way.

Oh gosh...
 
Kudos to Kane. I thought his form last season was a temporary thing ( I am always skeptical about hyped English stars). But doing it again and in a title run is too good.
Hope he doesn't go to the likes of Barca/Real and become a nobody.
 
He's a great striker, who's only going to get better. Let's hope he doesn't get a serious injury to stagnate his progress, or a move abroad.

Highly doubt we'll get him, wouldn't waste our time because Levy refuses to do business with us after the Berba deal. I'd rather give Wilson some game time and help him progress.
 
Highly doubt we'll get him, wouldn't waste our time because Levy refuses to do business with us after the Berba deal. I'd rather give Wilson some game time and help him progress.

I'd rather give gametime to someone more worth it.
 
He's proper one dimensional, but it works. He literally just shoots from anywhere within 30 yards. If he's any deeper he lays it off. I'm still sceptical whether he'll really become a great, but he's in the form of his life at the moment. Let's hope he carries this confidence to the euros.
 
Money is the name of the game.

We are not talking about small differences here. Sure, players might accept slightly lower wages to play for their preferred clubs. But double or triple? No.

You can't keep players happy without paying them a fair market wage.

It doesn't happen.

He will be earning mega money somewhere in the next year.

Yet, despite this Muller is still at Bayern.
 
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