Muller makes a shitload at Bayern. He's probably their highest earner, plus all the benefits of being the face of the club/Adidas (other German brands).
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Muller makes a shitload at Bayern. He's probably their highest earner, plus all the benefits of being the face of the club/Adidas (other German brands).
Already playing for a grand European team, Kane isnt.
Minge's point that I am refuting is that it is all about the money - which he would earn more of at United.
Not neccessarily but for some people, I am sure it does. And on being one of the worst posts you have ever read, from you, I will take that as a compliment.
He's far from one dimensional and contributes a lot more than goals.
Bayern are as big as any club in the world AND most importantly he is paid top dollar there, so your point is invalid.
Muller would not earn significantly more at any other club. United might have been prepared to give him a slight pay rise, but nothing like Kane is going to be due next summer, if not now.
Kane's sponsorship deals at United in particular, but also Real, would explode.
Financially, Spurs are absolutely 100% going to have to push the boat right out in order to keep him.
And that is to assume that his hometown club loyalties are strong enough for him to resist the lure of playing for a big club and chasing trophies consistently.
That is an increasingly rare phenomenon in modern football.
I certainly hope they can keep him. I think it's exciting to have as many quality teams as possible in the league.
It simply reads as anti-English bias because Kane has proven himself in the previous two seasons to be one of, if not THE, most promising young player in Europe.
He's the league's top scorer again and 22. Ibra is 35.
he's much more than just a sniper, he's very allround player, playing with his head up too
I said we should have paid £50m for him in the summer.
Would've been a bargain. I also said pay what we could for him. Now he's worth £100m.
Said the same with Bale a season before he went to Madrid too.
He could get close to Shearers record. I thought Lukaku would get pretty close to it too but he's probably going to move outside the PL.
Bale went for around 90m but if you compare the two Kane was much better player than Bale during the period of two seasons, for me his both seasons were better than either of Bale's while at Spurs.
No way, not even close. Bale wasn't a striker and hit 21 goals in his last season. He was twice POTY. I think people forget just how much Bale carried Spurs at times under AVB. If you compare the points Bales goals won Spurs, compared to Kane's it wont be close. On top of that, if you then consider how many of Bales goals were just down to incredible individual brilliance, rather than great team play, it puts things in perspective. Bale was on a different level to Kane. Bale was on a different level to any player currently in the Prem. The form in his last season would see him win POTY this year without any doubt. Mahrez, Payet and Kante etc wouldn't even get a look in.
Check out how many amazing goals he scored in 2012/13 and then consider how many of them were game deciding goals. It really was one of the great individual seasons in Prem history.
You are pretending that I am against the idea of signing Kane or I dont like him as a player when thats just not true. I like Kane and it would be great if we could sign him but right now its just not realistic at all. Ibra's age has nothing to do with the opinion that he is a better player than Kane
Bale is and was miles better than Kane. If Kane was in our team he'd barely get a chance like the rest of our strikers.
Meh, I think when most teams get close to him, a la Smalling or when Chelsea did a job on him earlier in the season, he's pretty ineffectual. I can only think that it's the vast amount of runners off the ball that let him have so much space and defenders don't close him down, which allows him to be so devestating. His finishing from range is phenomenal.
He's more than a finisher though, he brings others into play as well and he's pretty creative, he's got plenty of vision.
Crazy. Hell to the no. If Barcelona can get Neymar, and Rakitic for like 70 million then no way should United spend double for Alli and Kane who are just prem proven players for 1-2 seasons. Only seems to be United who never get bargains or always have to overpay. Bayern bag lewandowski for free, will no doubt get Coman for below 20 mill, Thiago for 20 mill (Thiago has more talent than Alli) etc.
Yeah, I think he is when he is allowed the time on the ball and I believe the runs of his players dictate his passes more than the other way around. I'm still yet to board the hype train, unlike Alli, who I think is much more rounded.
Weren't most of your "youth team products" purchases from other clubs?
Only a luncatic would spend 100 million for him when future balon d'or winners like Neymars etc went for £50 odd. Bale went for 85 mill because Bale can have a Ronaldo effect and do things Kane can only dream of. Anyone who pays 100 million for him deserve a lesson. Costa cost Chelsea £32 million. You can do without a Kane and have adequate replacements. The key is to no buy English players or players from English clubs
English players are overpriced and go for premium prices. Shaw would never have been a 30M player in any other league. Until that stands, Kane and Alli wont be available for anything less than 100M.
As a sidenote, I wouldn't believe any Barca deals on face value. And as per rumours Neymar had a sweet family
Don't let logic get in the way of a good point
Not "most", but some were (e.g. Alli, Walker, Rose) ... but even these are (or were) still youth/young players that needed to be developed further. Others in the first team squad came through our academy (even Rose spent some time within that structure) - e.g. Mason, Kane, Carroll, Bentaleb, Onomah, Winks.
Which his how football works, the runners always dictates the passes, in a good team.
I know, but that's why I'm hesitatant to say he has vision, like say, Eriksen. As an example, the way eriksen disguised the pass to Alli against Stoke, was more a sign of vision.
I genuinely don't understand, vision only means that a player can read the game and see the passing and dribbling lanes. The disguising part has nothing to do with vision but everything with trickery and creativity, Eriksen is more astute even though Kane isn't bad in that department either.
Would the caf rather we broke the bank for Muller or Kane?
Don't wanna get all Captain Hindsight or anything but I said this too and it didn't go down too well if I remember correctly.
Neither, I would go with the Martial-Rashford duo as main striking options and bring two wide players with the money that Muller or Kane would command. Or Griezmann.
You guys make it sound so easy. What if he didn't want to go or wasn't for sale for 50m?
Isn't most of this totally irrelevant anyway. There's no way i could see Kane leaving spurs right now for anyone, let alone us. He's spurs through and through. Plus as of right now, they've got a better team, playing better football, getting better results, and closer to challenging for trophies, plus atm champions league football.
Only reason to come to us would be if he had some kind of romantic notion of playing for united (it doesn't strike me he does), or if he just wanted piles of cash (would we want him in that case anyway? Plus he could earn more in China).
Only reason to come to us would be if he had some kind of romantic notion of playing for united (it doesn't strike me he does), or if he just wanted piles of cash (would we want him in that case anyway? Plus he could earn more in China).
Are we trying to pretend here that Muller was available for loads of money?
There was no way he was coming from his beloved club who are challenging Europe regularly to a club trying to stay in CL, just for the sake of huge money, unless Bayern were actively pushing him out, which they won't until he reaches the fitness levels of Bastian.
And Kane would never have come for 50M or even 60M with Levy in charge after his excellent last season, especially being an English player plus a forward, when defenders were going for 30M types.
There was no way he was coming from his beloved club who are challenging Europe regularly to a club trying to stay in CL, just for the sake of huge money, unless Bayern were actively pushing him out, which they won't until he reaches the fitness levels of Bastian.
And Kane would never have come for 50M or even 60M with Levy in charge after his excellent last season, especially being an English player plus a forward, when defenders were going for 30M types.
I'm not trying to trivialize the situation, a bid or an expression of interest wouldn't have been a bad thing though. He's once again proven very adept in this league.
Sensible!
I always thought vision as having the nouse to pick the best option out of them - ie the vision to see what it will lead to. The disguising part was a pretty stupid inclusion by me, as it wasn't relevant, but was more that the better pass was to Alli, but yeah. I'd just say Kane has good awareness of his team mates. Spurs always seem to break in 4s with 2 attacking mids and at least one fullback, so he'd be hard pushed to feck it up.
I'm probably just being harsh, as I'm still not overly sold.
Two of Kane's recent goals have been from his own brilliance.
A basic layoff from Dembélé and then bang, back of the net from a difficult angle. Eriksen keep the ball alive vs Liverpool, Kane receives it and it looks like nothing is on. One touch later and he's put it into the same corner from another difficult angle after shielding it brilliantly.
Not to mention his audacious curler against Arsenal.
Mahrez was doing lots of the stuff that Bale did up until a month ago. He's more creative as well.
I understand, in terms of style Kane is a bit like Benzema and Lacazette, and I noticed that people tend to underrate both players, personally I'm a fan of Kane I liked him a lot last season but wanted to see if he was able to repeat the same season and he just did that.
Fair enoughEnglish players are overpriced and go for premium prices. Shaw would never have been a 30M player in any other league. Until that stands, Kane and Alli wont be available for anything less than 100M.
As a sidenote, I wouldn't believe any Barca deals on face value. And as per rumours Neymar had a sweet family
He's been doing it for two years, and improved on last years this year. It's not just form anymore!
Comparing Kane to Bale is absurd. Bale could receive the ball in his own half and hes still a threat as he could run through your team. He scored some absolute worldies at crucial times. He was more than just a CF that scores goals which is kind of what you expect/hope from a forward. He was just an all around menace. Didn't he run through our midfield, beat Ferdinand and then tuck it into the bottom corner?
Harry Kane can only dream of having Bale's talent. Just a reminder of his goals. The sheer volume of Freekicks and longshots seems a bit excessive for 1 season
EDIT: after watching it all the way through, we need to sign Bale
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