Harry Kane MBE | Performances

[DannyCAFC]

He's been class but this season has been on a different level, on the level of what Lewandowski has been doing for the most part, what Aguero was doing at his best and close to Suarez of the past few years. 31, 28 and 35 is Kane's record in the last 3 seasons. He's on 26 after just over half a season, it's clearly way above anything he achieved before and is what puts him in the shout for the best striker around. The past few years was not, despite being very good. Not when you have Suarez score 59 goals 2 seasons ago, Cavani score 49 last season, Ibra score 50 two years ago, or Lewandowski and Aubameyang who score over 40 goals a season. Kane is just making the step up to that level. No need to rush and say he's the best striker in the world when he hasn't proved that yet.

He missed 8 PL games and 3 in the CL group-stage last year, he would have easily hit 40+ if he was fit the whole season. His goalscoring record (35 in 38) last season was better than any ratio Lewandowski or Aubameyang have ever managed and not far off Cavani's last season, despite playing in a superior league.

He also outscored all those guys you mentioned in 2017, despite missing said games. If you don't rate him as the best CF in the world that's fair, I'm just saying he's been producing this type of form now for a while and there's no need for added 'consistency' IMO. Aubameyang has only once hit 40 goals, same with Suarez, same with Cavani, I don't see them being held to the same standard.

 

[Robbie Boy]

The reluctance from some on here to accept that Kane is an amazingly talented player is absolutely bizarre. There's some serious clutching at straws. So yeah, if Kane is still banging them in when he's 55, I'll rate him but anything he does before that is null and void.

 

[Eire Red United]

Harry should speak to Glaston. By the time the chat will be over Kane would be counting finishing above Arsenal, moving to new ground and building a new training complex as trophies.

 

[Trizy]

£80m plus Lukaku.

Solid Business for both parties.

 

[Ish]

The reluctance from some on here to accept that Kane is an amazingly talented player is absolutely bizarre. There's some serious clutching at straws. So yeah, if Kane is still banging them in when he's 55, I'll rate him but anything he does before that is null and void.

I’d love him at United, above almost anyone else tbh Robbie!

 

[Robbie Boy]

I’d love him at United, above almost anyone else tbh Robbie!

Based on what we need and how seamlessly he would fit in, hell yeah I agree with that! I'm confident we would be several points better off this season if we had him..

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

If utd let him go to Madrid we are mad, we should be throwing the book at him.

 

[balaks]

£80m plus Lukaku.

Solid Business for both parties.

Solid business for both parties you say? No thanks!!

 

[cyberman]

Madrid are all talk these days. Its either raid lower tier Spanish clubs for promising talent or run through the players whose contracts are winding down.
Neymar and Kane are pipe dreams.

 

[Eire Red United]

Madrid are all talk these days. Its either raid lower tier Spanish clubs for promising talent or run through the players whose contracts are winding down.
Neymar and Kane are pipe dreams.

They’ll sign at least one of Hazard and Kane this year I’d say.

 

[BBRBB]

How anybody can put Mbappe above Kane right now is beyond me.

Mbappé is a more complete player but Kane seems the more rounded pure striker atm.

Apples and oranges.

 

[UnrelatedPsuedo]

He missed 8 PL games and 3 in the CL group-stage last year, he would have easily hit 40+ if he was fit the whole season. His goalscoring record (35 in 38) last season was better than any ratio Lewandowski or Aubameyang have ever managed and not far off Cavani's last season, despite playing in a superior league.

He also outscored all those guys you mentioned in 2017, despite missing said games. If you don't rate him as the best CF in the world that's fair, I'm just saying he's been producing this type of form now for a while and there's no need for added 'consistency' IMO. Aubameyang has only once hit 40 goals, same with Suarez, same with Cavani, I don't see them being held to the same standard.

Being fit is part of being great.

What if we flip it and say "Kane got injured more which gave his body more time to repair. He played with fewer niggly injuries so when he did play we only ever saw him fully fit"

That wouldn't apply for truly awful injuries, but if a player damages an ankle and is out for 6 matches, at the same time he might have been nursuing a tight hamstring, sore calves etc. They all heal up together. Plus there's the mental rest, the break in the pressure etc. Injuries are never good, but there are positives aspects to them.

I'd far rather my Centre forward play 50 and score 40, than play 36 and score 40, being injured for 14 matches in a season.

 

[cyberman]

@Eire Red United
Probably Hazard due to his contract situation but even that's not a given.
Its like signing Kepa but still getting linked to Courtois. I guarantee we'll see reports about how Madrid have turned down (remember its their choice) the chance to sign the Chelsea man because they have so much faith in Kepa.
Like when Mbappe went to PSG and Asensio suddenly became a God, or Isco becoming the new Iniesta when Pogba turned them down.
Who knows, this could be different. My bet is Madrid start blaming squad depth for this slump so they can buy an Aspas type player on the cheap.

 

[balaks]

Being fit is part of being great.

What if we flip it and say "Kane got injured more which gave his body more time to repair. He played with fewer niggly injuries so when he did play we only ever saw him fully fit"

That wouldn't apply for truly awful injuries, but if a player damages an ankle and is out for 6 matches, at the same time he might have been nursuing a tight hamstring, sore calves etc. They all heal up together. Plus there's the mental rest, the break in the pressure etc. Injuries are never good, but there are positives aspects to them.

I'd far rather my Centre forward play 50 and score 40, than play 36 and score 40, being injured for 14 matches in a season.

I honestly don't know what to say to this. Are you seriously arguing that Kane getting injured acts too much in his favor (due to his body having more time to repair?) and as a result he is'nt great until he plays a season without injuries (because of the advantage getting injured gives him? @_@) yet also arguing that injuries are never good and you would rather have a player who 'plays 50 and scores 40 than play 36 and score 40'? You have too different views in the one paragraph and neither of them make any sense whatsoever.

 

[MadMike]

£80m plus Lukaku.

Solid Business for both parties.

I understand it was a bit of a joke, but here comes a controversial opinion.

While Kane is a better player and a level above Lukaku, I personally think Rom suits Mourinho's style better and he'll also form a very good relationship with Martial in a front two (given a proper chance) to bang in loads of goals in years to come. I don't think Kane would be as great for us as he's been for Spurs or another very attack-focused team, if all else stays the same.

So I wouldn't be too keen on that swap personally and I think such a deal wouldn't make sense for either club or either player.

I'm ready to get stoned (in the literal sense) now.

 

[UnrelatedPsuedo]

I honestly don't know what to say to this. Are you seriously arguing that Kane getting injured acts too much in his favor (due to his body having more time to repair?) and as a result he is'nt great until he plays a season without injuries (because of the advantage getting injured gives him? @_@) yet also arguing that injuries are never good and you would rather have a player who 'plays 50 and scores 40 than play 36 and score 40'? You have too different views in the one paragraph and neither of them make any sense whatsoever.

No. I flat out said that injuries are never good. I'm saying adding in goals per game as a stat is fine. But if you have a Centre forward who gets injured, that's bad.

I love Kane. I'd already place him above everyone but Suarez as a 9. The post wasn't a criticism of the player in any way, shape or form.

But People need to let his merits stand on their own. It's truly daft to say "His ratio was so good AND he missed matches". Missing matches is bad. It's like the daft brushes that quote players goal totals with and without penalties.

People have always said the same about Aguero in that he'd score so many more if he was always fit. He's never always fit.

 

[Ish]

Based on what we need and how seamlessly he would fit in, hell yeah I agree with that! I'm confident we would be several points better off this season if we had him..

The one (massive) disadvantage of the premier league being competitive & littered with teams with a fair amount of money - our chances of landing are slim to none

 

[RooneyLegend]

How anybody can put Mbappe above Kane right now is beyond me.

Mbappe is special in a way Harry will probably never be. He does things in situations that Kane just can't. There was probably someone in 95 saying the same thing about Shearer vs R9. Some players have that genius, some don't. Mbappe has it, Harry doesn't.

 

[BobbyManc]

Mbappe is special in a way Harry will probably never be. He does things in situations that Kane just can't. There was probably someone in 95 saying the same thing about Shearer vs R9. Some players have that genius, some don't. Mbappe has it, Harry doesn't.

Agreed, but I don't believe anyone can reasonably claim Mbappe is already a better player than Kane.

 

[Stacks]

Mbappe is special in a way Harry will probably never be. He does things in situations that Kane just can't. There was probably someone in 95 saying the same thing about Shearer vs R9. Some players have that genius, some don't. Mbappe has it, Harry doesn't.

I understand your logic completely, Although Mbappe needs to show he can be a regular reliable scorer of goals first. Obviously it doesn't help that he has played only half a season as a CF and is now playing WF.Ronaldo was on 98 goals in 114 games by the time he was 20.

 

[GlastonSpur]

Mbappe is special in a way Harry will probably never be. He does things in situations that Kane just can't. There was probably someone in 95 saying the same thing about Shearer vs R9. Some players have that genius, some don't. Mbappe has it, Harry doesn't.

Except for scoring goals, which, you know, is the prime objective of being a forward.

In the last 3 seasons in France (including this one so far) - in an inferior league compared to the Prem - Mbappe has scored 21 club goals.

In the last 3 seasons (including this one so far) Harry Kane has scored 89 club goals (and a further 31 goals in the season before these).

OK, I get it that Mbappe is much younger and has had far fewer appearances than Kane. And of course I can't rule out that he may go on to score more goals than Kane, though it seems doubtful. But to say that Mbappe already is special compared to Kane strikes me as ridiculous.

 

[Trizy]

Solid business for both parties you say? No thanks!!

Shhhhhhhhh

 

[BBRBB]

Agreed, but I don't believe anyone can reasonably claim Mbappe is already a better player than Kane.

Ballon d'or rankings 2017:

1. Cristiano Ronaldo (POR, Real Madrid)
2. Lionel Messi (ARG, Barcelone)
3. Neymar (BRE, Paris Saint-Germain)
4. Gianluigi Buffon (ITA, Juventus Turin)
5. Luka Modric (CRO, Real Madrid)
6. Sergio Ramos (ESP, Real Madrid)
7. Kylian Mbappé (FRA, Paris Saint-Germain)
8. N'Golo Kanté (FRA, Chelsea)
9. Robert Lewandowski (POL, Bayern Munich
10. Harry Kane (ANG, Tottenham)

That clearly shows noone reasonably puts Mbappé ahead of Kane.

 

[Primativ]

Ah, and so it starts. The subtle "come and get me plea" to Real Madrid, hiding behind his wishes to win trophies - something that will not happen at Spurs unless they are really, really lucky. Trophies are gone this year - the league is over and the League Cup is gone, they sure as hell aren't winning the Champions League and the FA Cup is still stocked with the best teams like it always is.

What sucks for Tottenham is that Cristiano Ronaldo is old and on his way down and Harry Kane is the foremost striker in the world right now. Perfect age, insane goal scoring ability and currently employed by a much smaller club. It just makes so much sense, although Spurs would get a couple of hundred million pounds to re-invest or throw back into their mortgage. I do not think he will leave this summer, that looks impossible, but perhaps in the summer of 2019? No international championships, just lots of time to re-think your future after yet another year without any silverware.

It's not a subtle come and get me plea at all. Kane will stay at Spurs as long as the club is progressing, and I don't see any reason why Spurs can't win the FA Cup this season. I think Spurs still have another 2 or 3 years before Kane gets itchy feet, and that is if we haven't won anything in the next 2 or 3 years. SO we will see.

Ballon d'or rankings 2017:

1. Cristiano Ronaldo (POR, Real Madrid)
2. Lionel Messi (ARG, Barcelone)
3. Neymar (BRE, Paris Saint-Germain)
4. Gianluigi Buffon (ITA, Juventus Turin)
5. Luka Modric (CRO, Real Madrid)
6. Sergio Ramos (ESP, Real Madrid)
7. Kylian Mbappé (FRA, Paris Saint-Germain)
8. N'Golo Kanté (FRA, Chelsea)
9. Robert Lewandowski (POL, Bayern Munich
10. Harry Kane (ANG, Tottenham)

That clearly shows noone reasonably puts Mbappé ahead of Kane.

Mbappe is higher than Kane for one reason only, Monaco went very far in the CL and were one of the teams of Europe last season. The Ballan Dor I find seems overly harsh on English players.

Noone can with a straight face say Mbappe is ahead of Kane as a striker. It's not even close.

 

[BobbyManc]

Except for scoring goals, which, you know, is the prime objective of being a forward.

In the last 3 seasons in France (including this one so far) - in an inferior league compared to the Prem - Mbappe has scored 21 club goals.

In the last 3 seasons (including this one so far) Harry Kane has scored 89 club goals (and a further 31 goals in the season before these).

OK, I get it that Mbappe is much younger and has had far fewer appearances than Kane. And of course I can't rule out that he may go on to score more goals than Kane, though it seems doubtful. But to say that Mbappe already is special compared to Kane strikes me as ridiculous.

Mbappe's 19, it is not at all a reasonable comparison to compare stats going as far back as to when one player was 16 and only just starting out in football. It would be far fairer comparing Mbappe now to what Kane was doing when he was 16-19 years old.

 

[Jake]

Just looking at that quoted list above - how anyone in the world can say that Mbappe, Kante or Buffon (in 2017) are better than Harry Kane is absolute madness.

I’d love us to get him. Can not see it though.

Maybe 10 years ago if Fergie was in charge possibly, not now.

Not sure if he will leave to go abroad though. It’s a weird one where I think he’s genuinely happy but may have to reluctantly move to try and be a very elite player as I don’t see Spurs being an elite team in the next few years.

 

[Posh Red]

Ballon d'or rankings 2017:

1. Cristiano Ronaldo (POR, Real Madrid)
2. Lionel Messi (ARG, Barcelone)
3. Neymar (BRE, Paris Saint-Germain)
4. Gianluigi Buffon (ITA, Juventus Turin)
5. Luka Modric (CRO, Real Madrid)
6. Sergio Ramos (ESP, Real Madrid)
7. Kylian Mbappé (FRA, Paris Saint-Germain)
8. N'Golo Kanté (FRA, Chelsea)
9. Robert Lewandowski (POL, Bayern Munich
10. Harry Kane (ANG, Tottenham)

That clearly shows noone reasonably puts Mbappé ahead of Kane.

Popularity contest. Kante better than Kane is laughable.

 

[gibers]

Different players tbh. Would rather have Mbappe as I feel he has a higher ceiling and is more versatile. Kane is the best #9 in Europe atm. Not bad for a 1 season wonder.

 

[Rajma]

Ballon d'or rankings 2017:

1. Cristiano Ronaldo (POR, Real Madrid)
2. Lionel Messi (ARG, Barcelone)
3. Neymar (BRE, Paris Saint-Germain)
4. Gianluigi Buffon (ITA, Juventus Turin)
5. Luka Modric (CRO, Real Madrid)
6. Sergio Ramos (ESP, Real Madrid)
7. Kylian Mbappé (FRA, Paris Saint-Germain)
8. N'Golo Kanté (FRA, Chelsea)
9. Robert Lewandowski (POL, Bayern Munich
10. Harry Kane (ANG, Tottenham)

That clearly shows noone reasonably puts Mbappé ahead of Kane.

Wait what Buffon finished 4th? He's not even in top 10 keepers anymore, what the heck.

 

[BBRBB]

It's not a subtle come and get me plea at all. Kane will stay at Spurs as long as the club is progressing, and I don't see any reason why Spurs can't win the FA Cup this season. I think Spurs still have another 2 or 3 years before Kane gets itchy feet, and that is if we haven't won anything in the next 2 or 3 years. SO we will see.


Mbappe is higher than Kane for one reason only, Monaco went very far in the CL and were one of the teams of Europe last season. The Ballan Dor I find seems overly harsh on English players.

Noone can with a straight face say Mbappe is ahead of Kane as a striker. It's not even close.

In France people don't care much about Kane and 90% would favour Mbappé. Interesting to see that the opinion seems opposite in England.

 

[GlastonSpur]

Mbappe's 19, it is not at all a reasonable comparison to compare stats going as far back as to when one player was 16 and only just starting out in football. It would be far fairer comparing Mbappe now to what Kane was doing when he was 16-19 years old.

It's not unreasonable when the poster I replied to was saying that Mbappe is now (already) more special than Kane is now and has a genius whilst Kane doesn't.

The stats show that Kane has/is displaying a "genius" for scoring goals. Moreover he's doing so at an accelerating rate: 28 clubs goals the season before last, 35 last season and 26 this season so far already.

 

[Seij]

Wait what Buffon finished 4th? He's not even in top 10 keepers anymore, what the heck.

But he has the old reputation and with his recent retirement talks, he gets +53 points for sentimentality.

 

[Dancfc]

He's the striker version of Lampard. Not the most talented, but makes the best out of every little attribute he has.

 

[cyberman]

Mbappe is a level below Kane atm. Its not as if Mbappe is being compared to a veteran, the scary fact about Kane is he's only 24 years old.
I've said he's had a better year than Neymar and got laughed at on here but I stick by that.

 

[Jaybomb]

Kane is a good goal scorer and a hard worker but he’s not a skillful player. He hasn’t got lightning fast speed and on the grand scheme of things, he’s a very “basic” footballer.

 

[roonster09]

Ballon d'or rankings 2017:

1. Cristiano Ronaldo (POR, Real Madrid)
2. Lionel Messi (ARG, Barcelone)
3. Neymar (BRE, Paris Saint-Germain)
4. Gianluigi Buffon (ITA, Juventus Turin)
5. Luka Modric (CRO, Real Madrid)
6. Sergio Ramos (ESP, Real Madrid)
7. Kylian Mbappé (FRA, Paris Saint-Germain)
8. N'Golo Kanté (FRA, Chelsea)
9. Robert Lewandowski (POL, Bayern Munich
10. Harry Kane (ANG, Tottenham)

That clearly shows noone reasonably puts Mbappé ahead of Kane.

Why people use these rankings are beyond me. In one if these popularity contest Will Grigg finished in 25th position tied with Pogba and ahead of KdB and Auba.

We have already seen how people vote too.

 

[Scroto Baggins]

Kane is a good goal scorer and a hard worker but he’s not a skillful player. He hasn’t got lightning fast speed and on the grand scheme of things, he’s a very “basic” footballer.

You are focusing on what Kane hasnt got, compared to what he does have. When he first came on the scene I feel I was very much guilty of this, doesnt have blistering pace, doesnt have the fancy footwork of a Suarez. No real stand out attributes, going to end up an average striker for a mid table club.

I get the feeling on this forum sometimes that people watch fancy flicks and tricks and equate that to being 'better'. Step overs dont win you matches, goals do. I get some people dont like the RVN, RVP, Shearer, Kane kind of striker. That is fine, but there is no denying the effectiveness of these strikers. There arnt too many players in world football that can ride through tackles, throw off challenges, pick passes out, make intelligent football decisions, strike a ball, make great runs in and around the box, press players in a fast counter press, lethally finish with either foot, like Kane.

Mbappe is just starting out compared to Kane, who at 24 is coming off 2 golden boots, Kane is an established superstar. Should be talked about in the same breath as Lewandowski as the best out and out striker in world football on form. Is he in a particularly good purple patch or is this the new standard from him? Time will tell.

Mbappe may well go on to be better, although Kane is posting astounding stats in a much tougher league. Hes coming off three seasons of 20+ goals. And in a side that by no means has world class attacking support talent. Eriksen is probably the best of the supporting cast but Alli is still young and inconsistent, Lamela is a sick note, Sissoko is bang average and Son is a good attacking talent but not considered in the same league as the Coutinho, Hazard, Neymar or KDB's of the world.

Yet people seem fixated on his dribbling skills, or his pace, or his lack of step overs(lol). He's not doing a hocus pocus into a marseilles turn then scoring a rabona goal, clearly not at the elite level.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

They're incomparable. Mbappe will most likely end up a better player but Kane is an absolute goal machine right now and genuinely the best CF in football. He's scoring a ridiculous amount of goals in an elite league and not in an elite team. You cannot compare mbappe to that right now.

 

[balaks]

Kane is a good goal scorer and a hard worker but he’s not a skillful player. He hasn’t got lightning fast speed and on the grand scheme of things, he’s a very “basic” footballer.

That is utter nonsense.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

That is utter nonsense.

I kind of get what he means. Shearer was a 'basic' footballer, too. He's also one of the best strikers I've ever seen and arguably the best in PL history.