Harry Kane MBE | Performances

It's crazy how fans rate players these days.

Best way to think about it would be if Kane was a top trump, he'd probably be an 7/10 in every department. He's not a world class dribbler (these are the players everyone creams themselves over), not unbelievably fast or strong, he's a good finisher but is he as good as a prime Lewandowski, Henry or Ruud, probably not. However, when you combine all the aspects of his game you get a truly complete player.

Hard disagree on that (and I watch a lot of Lewandowski in particular, given where I live). Kane is an unbelievably good finisher, 10/10 ... especially since there is virtually no difference between which foot he's on (Henry was unbelievably one footed, in comparison) He's utterly ruthless if he gets a glimpse of a corner. Ruud is the only one on that list I'd even consider being close to the same bracket, but I'm not sure he was as good with his feet from the edge of the box and out as Kane is. Better in the air though, for sure.
 
It's crazy how fans rate players these days.

Best way to think about it would be if Kane was a top trump, he'd probably be an 7/10 in every department. He's not a world class dribbler (these are the players everyone creams themselves over), not unbelievably fast or strong, he's a good finisher but is he as good as a prime Lewandowski, Henry or Ruud, probably not. However, when you combine all the aspects of his game you get a truly complete player.

He is a world class finisher on par with all strikers you mentioned - and with both feet too. You have watched him right?
 
He is a world class finisher on par with all strikers you mentioned - and with both feet too. You have watched him right?

Matter of opinion... I've got him the rung under the players I mentioned. I have watched him a lot, a player I really like as he does the simple stuff so well.
 
It's crazy how fans rate players these days.

Best way to think about it would be if Kane was a top trump, he'd probably be an 7/10 in every department. He's not a world class dribbler (these are the players everyone creams themselves over), not unbelievably fast or strong, he's a good finisher but is he as good as a prime Lewandowski, Henry or Ruud, probably not. However, when you combine all the aspects of his game you get a truly complete player.

Kane is definitely the level of these players.

It's not the simple stuff he does well but his reading of the game and mentality is that of great players. He has a good chance to go down as a premier league legend (if he breaks Shearer's record which I think he might)

I just hope Kane can move to a proper winning club. Seems like he loves Totenham way too much to do that and it's nice to see him there but a player of his class and quality deserves titles.
 
Kane is definitely the level of these players.

It's not the simple stuff he does well but his reading of the game and mentality is that of great players. He has a good chance to go down as a premier league legend (if he breaks Shearer's record which I think he might)

I just hope Kane can move to a proper winning club. Seems like he loves Totenham way too much to do that and it's nice to see him there but a player of his class and quality deserves titles.

But at the moment the club winning titles is looking likely to be Man City. Do football fans in England really want to see Kane move to a club like that to win the league? Or would they prefer it if he stayed at Spurs and tried to win titles there? People go on like Spurs are miles away from challenging for the big trophies. Spurs have finished 3rd, second last two seasons and are in the CL knock outs but people on here make it like he's playing for Bournemouth.
 
But at the moment the club winning titles is looking likely to be Man City. Do football fans in England really want to see Kane move to a club like that to win the league? Or would they prefer it if he stayed at Spurs and tried to win titles there? People go on like Spurs are miles away from challenging for the big trophies. Spurs have finished 3rd, second last two seasons and are in the CL knock outs but people on here make it like he's playing for Bournemouth.

God no.

The mere thought of Harry Kane joining City makes me feel unwell. Or Real, PSG, Barca, whomever. Indeed, if United's attempts to sign him fall on deaf ears, I hope he stays at Spurs.

Until the following year when we go again.
 
Kane is definitely the level of these players.

It's not the simple stuff he does well but his reading of the game and mentality is that of great players. He has a good chance to go down as a premier league legend (if he breaks Shearer's record which I think he might)

I just hope Kane can move to a proper winning club. Seems like he loves Totenham way too much to do that and it's nice to see him there but a player of his class and quality deserves titles.

Don't get me wrong, I rate Kane and think he could go on to be something really special.

But right now, saying he is as good as peak Henry...not a chance. That man was too good.
 
I think in terms of pure finishing ability you could argue he's as good as Henry possibly, but obviously whilst Kane isn't limited at all, Henry had much more to his game. Kane is brilliant but you probably aren't going to see him pick the ball up on the halfway line, beat 4 or 5 players and roll it in the corner from 18 yards like Henry was capable of doing against even the best.
 
I think in terms of pure finishing ability you could argue he's as good as Henry possibly, but obviously whilst Kane isn't limited at all, Henry had much more to his game. Kane is brilliant but you probably aren't going to see him pick the ball up on the halfway line, beat 4 or 5 players and roll it in the corner from 18 yards like Henry was capable of doing against even the best.

Equally, you never saw Henry win the ball with a slide tackle and then go on to score (after passing the ball, moving forward and then receiving it back) ... pace his 3rd goal recently against Burnley:


Different players have different attributes, and Kane's attributes include his incredible hard work on the pitch and relentless competitive edge, so it's debateable that Henry had "much more to his game".
 
Equally, you never saw Henry win the ball with a slide tackle and then go on to score (after passing the ball, moving forward and then receiving it back) ... pace his 3rd goal recently against Burnley:


Different players have different attributes, and Kane's attributes include his incredible hard work on the pitch and relentless competitive edge, so it's debateable that Henry had "much more to his game".


Yes, agreed. This isn't a slight on Kane, a complete forward with great rounded ability and for me one of the top 2 CF's in the world.

I just feel Henry at his best was better and had more additional qualities that I would describe as being more directly dangerous when taking in to account a strikers role of scoring goals, such as his blistering pace and ability to beat players.
 
That 3rd goal was class, surely he has to have a poor patch of form sooner or later, it's getting ridiculous? Two more goals in the cup, admittedly against Wimbledon.

Looking at other strikers they have their ups and downs, Lacazette has been going through a poor patch of form, same as Rom. Has Kane had a bad patch of form since he burst onto the scene, what, three seasons ago?
 
That 3rd goal was class, surely he has to have a poor patch of form sooner or later, it's getting ridiculous? Two more goals in the cup, admittedly against Wimbledon.

Looking at other strikers they have their ups and downs, Lacazette has been going through a poor patch of form, same as Rom. Has Kane had a bad patch of form since he burst onto the scene, what, three seasons ago?

Every August? He's never scored in August.
 
I think in terms of pure finishing ability you could argue he's as good as Henry possibly, but obviously whilst Kane isn't limited at all, Henry had much more to his game. Kane is brilliant but you probably aren't going to see him pick the ball up on the halfway line, beat 4 or 5 players and roll it in the corner from 18 yards like Henry was capable of doing against even the best.

In terms of pure finishing ability he's far ahead of Henry (who was tremendously one footed - Kane has already scored as many left footed goals for Spurs as Henry did for Arsenal). I'm not sure there's anyone who has played in the PL who was a better, more consistent, accurate striker of the ball with both feet than Kane. He's stupendously good in that area.

As for the rest of it - Kane picked up the ball at the halfway line, beat multiple players and then beat the keeper with power and accuracy (with his left foot for a bonus) just this season in the Champions League. Maybe not as "sexily" as Henry would have done it, but the brutal power of it is enthralling in it's own way.

 
But at the moment the club winning titles is looking likely to be Man City. Do football fans in England really want to see Kane move to a club like that to win the league? Or would they prefer it if he stayed at Spurs and tried to win titles there? People go on like Spurs are miles away from challenging for the big trophies. Spurs have finished 3rd, second last two seasons and are in the CL knock outs but people on here make it like he's playing for Bournemouth.
They would prefer he comes to Man Utd and win titles rather than become Shearer Mark II. I feel a slight sadness about Shearer as he did so well most seasons but had little to show for it. When people refer to great goalscorers of the past to me, there is a strange feeling when I hear of ones who don't win things. Its as if their goals were pointless (even though I know they weren't).

Kane FC aren't likely to win the title nor Champions league, anytime soon.
 
They would prefer he comes to Man Utd and win titles rather than become Shearer Mark II. I feel a slight sadness about Shearer as he did so well most seasons but had little to show for it. When people refer to great goalscorers of the past to me, there is a strange feeling when I hear of ones who don't win things. Its as if their goals were pointless (even though I know they weren't).

Kane FC aren't likely to win the title nor Champions league, anytime soon.

I don't agree, I'd rather see a good generation of players stay with the club rather than the same top clubs hoarding talent. I was more sad about how a great entertaining Monaco side got demolished just to strengthen oil driven clubs such as City and PSG, maybe that's just me though.
 
They would prefer he comes to Man Utd and win titles rather than become Shearer Mark II. I feel a slight sadness about Shearer as he did so well most seasons but had little to show for it. When people refer to great goalscorers of the past to me, there is a strange feeling when I hear of ones who don't win things. Its as if their goals were pointless (even though I know they weren't).

Kane FC aren't likely to win the title nor Champions league, anytime soon.

In that case everybody would be delighted to see him sign for City. I honestly do not think that's actually the case though do you?
 
Currently my favorite player in football.

He will socre against any defence.

Absolutely superstar.

If he ever leaves Spurs, I hope we are willing to match any bid (world record beating, I am certain) and wage packet.
 
I don't agree, I'd rather see a good generation of players stay with the club rather than the same top clubs hoarding talent. I was more sad about how a great entertaining Monaco side got demolished just to strengthen oil driven clubs such as City and PSG, maybe that's just me though.

I agree.

Of course, I'd love to see him sign for United but what's best for the league and football is he stays at Spurs.

I want as many top teams with top players as possible. I cannot think of anything worse than the situation you have in Spain where Barca and Real just gobble everyone else up.
 
They would prefer he comes to Man Utd and win titles rather than become Shearer Mark II. I feel a slight sadness about Shearer as he did so well most seasons but had little to show for it. When people refer to great goalscorers of the past to me, there is a strange feeling when I hear of ones who don't win things. Its as if their goals were pointless (even though I know they weren't).

Kane FC aren't likely to win the title nor Champions league, anytime soon.

What a lot of wank, you feel sad for Shearer lol, I respect what Shearer done. It shows that you don't have to win trophies to be a club and national legend. He comes above Rooney, Cole, Sheringham et all who won all there was do win at club level.
 
One certainty is that Kane plays at least one season in the new stadium. Minimum. Maybe he gets itchy feet at around 27/28. Maybe not even ever.

I could see Spurs smashing their wage structure to obliteration to pay him top whack. I don't think it has to inflate their entire wage bill too much because everyone knows he is the star of the tea, by far. It will certainly have a knock-on effect which is Levy's main concern with paying him a bumper deal.
 
I'll be shocked if Kane doesn't sign an absolutely stonking new contract with Spurs in the next year. When I say stonking I mean it - I'm talking highest paid English player stonking. (yes I like the word stonking)
 
They would prefer he comes to Man Utd and win titles rather than become Shearer Mark II. I feel a slight sadness about Shearer as he did so well most seasons but had little to show for it. When people refer to great goalscorers of the past to me, there is a strange feeling when I hear of ones who don't win things. Its as if their goals were pointless (even though I know they weren't).

Kane FC aren't likely to win the title nor Champions league, anytime soon.

The same might be said of United in all fairness - don't you think?
 
In terms of pure finishing ability he's far ahead of Henry (who was tremendously one footed - Kane has already scored as many left footed goals for Spurs as Henry did for Arsenal). I'm not sure there's anyone who has played in the PL who was a better, more consistent, accurate striker of the ball with both feet than Kane. He's stupendously good in that area.

As for the rest of it - Kane picked up the ball at the halfway line, beat multiple players and then beat the keeper with power and accuracy (with his left foot for a bonus) just this season in the Champions League. Maybe not as "sexily" as Henry would have done it, but the brutal power of it is enthralling in it's own way.


There is something irresistible about bullishness in strikers. Love that he's English, easily my favourite non Utd player.

Just hope the shitc**t doesn't end up at Madrid or City.
 
Given Kanes on 18 Premier League goals this season it's looking highly likely he'll hit 20+ goals 4 seasons in a row. That will put him joint 2nd with Alan Shearer and would also put him with Ruud on 4 Seasons in his total career. Given he's so young still it's highly impressive.

20+ Goals in PL era:

5 seasons in a row - Thierry Henry..................(1/2-5/6)
4 seasons in a row - Alan Shearer...................(93/94-96/97)
3 seasons in a row - Ruud van Nistelrooy..........(1/2-3/4)
3 seasons in a row - Harry Kane......................(14/15-16/17)

Only 5 players have managed to score 20+ goals in 3 seasons total in the PL era:

Alan Shearer (7 seasons)
Thierry Henry (5 seasons)
Ruud van Nistelrooy (4 seasons)
Les Ferdinand, Sergio Agüero, Harry Kane (3 seasons)
 
In terms of pure finishing ability he's far ahead of Henry (who was tremendously one footed - Kane has already scored as many left footed goals for Spurs as Henry did for Arsenal). I'm not sure there's anyone who has played in the PL who was a better, more consistent, accurate striker of the ball with both feet than Kane. He's stupendously good in that area.

As for the rest of it - Kane picked up the ball at the halfway line, beat multiple players and then beat the keeper with power and accuracy (with his left foot for a bonus) just this season in the Champions League. Maybe not as "sexily" as Henry would have done it, but the brutal power of it is enthralling in it's own way.


Being 2 footed in finishing abilities doesn't make one better. Go check how one footed Messi goals have been yet that still doesn't take anything away from his sublime finishing abilities.
 
Being 2 footed in finishing abilities doesn't make one better. Go check how one footed Messi goals have been yet that still doesn't take anything away from his sublime finishing abilities.

Being 2 footed doesn't help when finishing? Have you played football? Messi is arguably one of the best footballers to ever have lived, he shouldn't be the benchmark :lol:.
 
I'll be shocked if Kane doesn't sign an absolutely stonking new contract with Spurs in the next year. When I say stonking I mean it - I'm talking highest paid English player stonking. (yes I like the word stonking)

I’m not sure they will take him to Pogba/Aguero etc. Levels but I certainly see north of £200k a week being offered and most likely accepted. That has to be the minimum though. He really could get £300-400k at United or City.

Bear in mind that no one at Spurs in on over £100k/wk currently.
 
What a lot of wank, you feel sad for Shearer lol, I respect what Shearer done. It shows that you don't have to win trophies to be a club and national legend. He comes above Rooney, Cole, Sheringham et all who won all there was do win at club level.
But you do if you want to be the all time best. How does Shearer come above Rooney? In what way? having an average career? From grass roots, the aim of any competition is to win and collecting trophies. If someone asks "how was Shearers career?" you'd say he scored lots but only managed the solitary win (league title). I am sure you enter the sporting realm to win competitions over records.
For Kane's sake, I want him to win stuff.
 
we are possibly 2 big signings away and will have the money.

Meh, this has been said for a long time. Not saying it won't happen, but likewise you could finish 5th, Mourinho leaves for PSG.
 
But you do if you want to be the all time best. How does Shearer come above Rooney? In what way? having an average career? From grass roots, the aim of any competition is to win and collecting trophies. If someone asks "how was Shearers career?" you'd say he scored lots but only managed the solitary win (league title). I am sure you enter the sporting realm to win competitions over records.
For Kane's sake, I want him to win stuff.

If someone asked you who was the better player, or to name who the best English striker was of the last 20-30 years, who would you say honestly? I want him to win stuff as well, if we can't meet his expectations over the next few seasons I wouldn't begrudge him a move, problem is it Wouk do be to City if he wants to stay England.
 
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But you do if you want to be the all time best. How does Shearer come above Rooney? In what way? having an average career? From grass roots, the aim of any competition is to win and collecting trophies. If someone asks "how was Shearers career?" you'd say he scored lots but only managed the solitary win (league title). I am sure you enter the sporting realm to win competitions over records.
For Kane's sake, I want him to win stuff.

That's got nothing to do with who's the better individual player though. Shearer was one of the most prolific strikers of his generation - there's a solid argument he'd be rated above Rooney.
 
If someone asked you who was the better player, or to name who the best English striker was of the last 20-30 years, who would you say honestly? I want him to win stuff as well, if we can't meet his expectations over the next few seasons I wouldn't begrudge him a move, problem is it Wouk do be to City if he wants to stay England.
Literally no idea:wenger:. They all have a shout. Shearer was outstanding and the most consistent. Even when he was older he banged them in. But when Owen came through I thought he was something special. He was more like an Aguero type and I like those; the ones who you could see doing well in foreign leagues and could make things happen by himself. Problem is he was a bit injury prone. Rooney has a lot to say in this argument also. Now we have Kane.

I don't think Harry he'd want to play against Tottenham. I smell a move abroad.
 
Rooney is supposed to be a 10 though

He varied. When at his very best and at the top of his game I think he was best in that no.10 role behind the striker but I'd argue that the time he got out of him performing at his best in that position was fairly limited. He was our main striker up top a lot of the time as well - he was a consistent enough scorer if not always ridiculously prolific. Prime Shearer may not have been as versatile but his ability in front of goal alone would at least have him on a par with Rooney, if not above him.