Harry Kane MBE | Performances

Now or in the past?

He's not as good as Aguero at his peak, he lacks the movement, but he's getting close to PL Suarez. He's not as busy but he is just as prolific.

I'd rate PL Suarez above Aguero.

What Suarez did in 2013-2014 surpasses anything Aguero has achieved and he's bettered him every season since imo.
 
I know it's controversial to say but I would rate Kane above Lukaku. Lukaku scores a lot of goals but most of them are set up by other players whereas Kane can turn half chances into goals. Kane is very clinical. BTW I have nothing against Lukaku I am just honest enough to admit that Kane is better.
 
What does movement matter when he is banging in the goals nearly every game for over a year now? He is in the right place at the right time like a propr number 9 (even though he wears 10)

Movement gets you the goals against the big teams and the better defenders, and Aguero has a comfortably better record than Kane there. There have been very few players in the PL who can peel away from defenders like Aguero does/did.

I'd rate PL Suarez above Aguero.

What Suarez did in 2013-2014 surpasses anything Aguero has achieved and he's bettered him every season since imo.

Suarez was busier over the pitch than either of them. No-one has matched Aguero for pure goalscoring though and Suarez was always wasteful, he scored a lot in that season but people forget he took a LOT of shots.
 
Without a doubt one of the top 3 strikers in the World.

If he could just sort his goal scoring in August he'd be a 30+ league goals a season player.
 
He's world class but he should never ever ever ever be used in the same sentence as Suarez. Until he takes a bunch of borderline starting XI players within inches of winning a title or manages to produce at rates that past legends would dream of they aren't the same.

Yup peak Aguero and Suarez a cut above. But good to see Kane making strides in finally producing EPL form onto more international stages. Still has a fair bit of development to go but he's on the right path.
 
I know it's controversial to say but I would rate Kane above Lukaku. Lukaku scores a lot of goals but most of them are set up by other players whereas Kane can turn half chances into goals. Kane is very clinical. BTW I have nothing against Lukaku I am just honest enough to admit that Kane is better.

It's not controversial at all. Kane is better than Lukaku and I think most of us would accept it.
 
I didn't expect that from Kane. Well done. Fantastic golascorer and probably the best striker in the EPL now.
 
Fantastic goals against class competition, what a striker.
Borussia Dortmund were far from class opposition. That defending last night was possibly the worst I've even seen at that level. That's not to say that Kane isn't a great striker. He is. But last night isn't proof of that.
 
I know it's controversial to say but I would rate Kane above Lukaku. Lukaku scores a lot of goals but most of them are set up by other players whereas Kane can turn half chances into goals. Kane is very clinical. BTW I have nothing against Lukaku I am just honest enough to admit that Kane is better.
Ask people here back in July if they'd rather see us signing Kane or Lukaku and 95% would've told you Kane. Not controversial at all, I also think Kane is a better player.
 
I know it's controversial to say but I would rate Kane above Lukaku. Lukaku scores a lot of goals but most of them are set up by other players whereas Kane can turn half chances into goals. Kane is very clinical. BTW I have nothing against Lukaku I am just honest enough to admit that Kane is better.

Nothing wrong with saying that. They're different type of goal scorers. Lukaku is a good finisher like Rooney but Kane has the rare ability to find the corner low and hard from any ball or situation.

Out of all the great premier league strikers only Henry and RVN comes to mind with the same ability to finish. Augero is slightly worse.
 
Suarez was busier over the pitch than either of them. No-one has matched Aguero for pure goalscoring though and Suarez was always wasteful, he scored a lot in that season but people forget he took a LOT of shots.

What is pure goal scoring?

Aguero's best GPG in a season at City is a goal every 1.31 games. Suarez's for Pool was a goal every 1.19 games. Kane's at Spurs is a goal every 1.09 games.

Aguero is a very wasteful striker, he shoots from anywhere. He usually tops the stats for shots per game over the course of a season in the PL.

Suarez and Aguero are better to watch than Kane because they are explosive which is exciting but if that should mean they are better strikers is debatable. Lets not forget that Kane still has his best years ahead of him.
 
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It's a shame England don't have anymore players that are at his level. Going to be difficult to build a half decent team around him. We may have been able to compete for something if we did.
 
Nonsense. Shearer.
Let's be honest Shearer isn't known out of the EPL, he was good enough to be a European name at the time. Yes he scored a lot of goals but his talent deserved much more.
 
Didn't he fail to score in August last season too?

I don't think he has ever scored in the PL in August but he can still hit 30+ goals this season without scoring in August, there are only 3 games in August. If he plays in all remaining games and scores at the same rate as last year he will hit about 34 goals.
 
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I can't speak highly enough of him.
I love his pure desire to score goals. Reminds me a lot of Ruud boy.
 
A great striker who can still get better, allied to that a team player and a tireless worker. A gem of a player and the best is still to come.
 
Let's be honest Shearer isn't known out of the EPL, he was good enough to be a European name at the time. Yes he scored a lot of goals but his talent deserved much more.

Shearer came was top scorer at Euro 96 and came third in the Ballon D'Or and World Player of the Year awards that year. He was known!
 
Shearer came was top scorer at Euro 96 and came third in the Ballon D'Or and World Player of the Year awards that year. He was known!
Because of the Euro's only though. I'm talking CL etc. Nobody would know Shearer in Italy or Spain I bet.
 
Because of the Euro's only though. I'm talking CL etc. Nobody would know Shearer in Italy or Spain I bet.

They do.

Think of Totti, who is romanticized in the UK and very well thought of, he has international success (admittedly more than Shearer) but pretty limited domestic/CL triumphs (I think he only won 1 title in his entire career). Maybe some 15 year old Spanish kid wouldn't know him, just as a 15 yr old English kid might not know Totti, but I like to think people who follow football don't only know players who perform in the CL.
 
They do.

Think of Totti, who is romanticized in the UK and very well thought of, he has international success (admittedly more than Shearer) but pretty limited domestic/CL triumphs (I think he only won 1 title in his entire career). Maybe some 15 year old Spanish kid wouldn't know him, just as a 15 yr old English kid might not know Totti, but I like to think people who follow football don't only know players who perform in the CL.
Totti is much more well known than Shearer ever was. There's no comparison between the two.
 
I know it's controversial to say but I would rate Kane above Lukaku. Lukaku scores a lot of goals but most of them are set up by other players whereas Kane can turn half chances into goals. Kane is very clinical. BTW I have nothing against Lukaku I am just honest enough to admit that Kane is better.

How is that controversial? You would hard pushed to find anyone who would argue otherwise I think. Kane is the best striker in the league really, you could argue he hasn't proved it in Europe yet in comparison to maybe Aguero etc, but last night showed that that's likely to change now he has the chance.
 
Not going to lie, I genuinely thought he was going to be a one season wonder in his first successful season in the PL. Oh how wrong I was, he's really come on leaps and bounds; he's definitely up there with the best of them and like others have said, I can certainly see Real Madrid selling Bale and coming in for Kane at some point.
 
What is pure goal scoring?

Aguero's best GPG in a season at City is a goal every 1.31 games. Suarez's for Pool was a goal every 1.19 games. Kane's at Spurs is a goal every 1.09 games.

Aguero is a very wasteful striker, he shoots from anywhere. He usually tops the stats for shots per game over the course of a season in the PL.

Suarez and Aguero are better to watch than Kane because they are explosive which is exciting but if that should mean they are better strikers is debatable. Lets not forget that Kane still has his best years ahead of him.

Over the course of their PL careers they have exactly the same goals per game ratio - 0.67. Aguero however has a much better goals per minute ratio, and a better record against the top teams.
 
I know it's controversial to say but I would rate Kane above Lukaku. Lukaku scores a lot of goals but most of them are set up by other players whereas Kane can turn half chances into goals. Kane is very clinical. BTW I have nothing against Lukaku I am just honest enough to admit that Kane is better.

Not really controversial at all. Think our preference would have been to go for Kane but no chance Spurs would sell. Lukaku is a very good 2nd choice and could be better for the likes of Rashford and Martial long term as well in terms of bringing them into play but he will never be as clinical as Kane.
 
Not really controversial at all. Think our preference would have been to go for Kane but no chance Spurs would sell. Lukaku is a very good 2nd choice and could be better for the likes of Rashford and Martial long term as well in terms of bringing them into play but he will never be as clinical as Kane.
I think Lukaku is a great signing for United but Kane is a better player, not controversial to say that, doubt even the most fervent United fan would honestly say Lukaku is a better player than Kane just now.
 
He's most certainly the best young striker right now. I didn't rate him all that much a few seasons ago, but since then, having watched him play a lot and seeing him score so many goals, and the way he scores them, he has something special about him. His finishing is venomous, lethal, clinical, etc.

We signed Lukaku before Neymar and Mbappé left Barca and Monaco respectively. So, I wonder if a £100m would've sufficed by then, or £110m. Relatively speaking, that's a feasible price in the current market.
 
He's most certainly the best young striker right now. I didn't rate him all that much a few seasons ago, but since then, having watched him play a lot and seeing him score so many goals, and the way he scores them, he has something special about him. His finishing is venomous, lethal, clinical, etc.

We signed Lukaku before Neymar and Mbappé left Barca and Monaco respectively. So, I wonder if a £100m would've sufficed by then, or £110m. Relatively speaking, that's a feasible price in the current market.
Even if he wanted the move, 110m wouldn't have cut it.
 
Even if he wanted the move, 110m wouldn't have cut it.

Let's put it this way, how much was he worth pre-Neymar/Mbappé, and how much is he worth now? Not more than £120m before those two transfers, I say. Surely closer to £200m now though.
 
I know it's controversial to say but I would rate Kane above Lukaku. Lukaku scores a lot of goals but most of them are set up by other players whereas Kane can turn half chances into goals. Kane is very clinical. BTW I have nothing against Lukaku I am just honest enough to admit that Kane is better.
I don't that's controversial. Kane is better than Lukaku.
 
He's most certainly the best young striker right now. I didn't rate him all that much a few seasons ago, but since then, having watched him play a lot and seeing him score so many goals, and the way he scores them, he has something special about him. His finishing is venomous, lethal, clinical, etc.

We signed Lukaku before Neymar and Mbappé left Barca and Monaco respectively. So, I wonder if a £100m would've sufficed by then, or £110m. Relatively speaking, that's a feasible price in the current market.

He wasn't going to leave for under £150 million at any point this window.
 
Suarez was busier over the pitch than either of them. No-one has matched Aguero for pure goalscoring though and Suarez was always wasteful, he scored a lot in that season but people forget he took a LOT of shots.
Suarez is simply better than Aguero who despite his goal record can't match the heights Suarez has reached.