Harry Kane MBE | Performances

Mike09 said:
EL will not be our last trophy anyway. You have to look at that our club's aim is to win trophy and from Community Shield with Moyes to FA Cup with LVG and League Cup + EL together with Jose Mourinho.

That shows every season the level of trophies that we won are bigger and bigger which IMO can be positive to gain that winning mentality (not being bottle). I am sure you can guess what we are aiming in the future right? EPL and CL!! We show that we have the ambition, while Spurs so far has won nothing and bottle it for two seasons in a row.

And that's why it makes sense why the poster said Kane will have to open those eyes soon if he prefers trophies over loyalty. I just can't see your sense of post for mentioning Pogba when he did win trophies with us and obviously he knows that we mean business to win higher achievements in the future.
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I'm not sure if you're just trying to wind people up or if you're 11. In any case.

Every clubs aim is to improve and ultimately win their respective leagues and CL. I'm sure you've been aiming to win the PL the last few seasons as well, many teams are aiming for that including Spurs. It's not trophies over loyalty that's the issue at the moment, it may become so in the future, but right now he plays for one of the best teams in England, a team fully capable to challenge for the title. I mentioned Pogba because he left Juve to go to a team that finished 6th, and despite winning the EL and league cup I'm sure he and others want to challenge for the title and CL. Maybe he buys into the project, and believes you can challenge in the future, but guess what, maybe Kane believes in Spurs' project as well. The point I was making is that if people claim Kane need to leave spurs if he is ambitious the same can be said for the top United players right now.
 
hellohello said:
I'm not sure if you're just trying to wind people up or if you're 11. In any case.

Every clubs aim is to improve and ultimately win their respective leagues and CL. I'm sure you've been aiming to win the PL the last few seasons as well, many teams are aiming for that including Spurs. It's not trophies over loyalty that's the issue at the moment, it may become so in the future, but right now he plays for one of the best teams in England, a team fully capable to challenge for the title. I mentioned Pogba because he left Juve to go to a team that finished 6th, and despite winning the EL and league cup I'm sure he and others want to challenge for the title and CL. Maybe he buys into the project, and believes you can challenge in the future, but guess what, maybe Kane believes in Spurs' project as well. The point I was making is that if people claim Kane need to leave spurs if he is ambitious the same can be said for the top United players right now.
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I can't see how do you think I'm an 11 or trying to winds people up just by saying the fact that you have won nothing and while we have won something which can be concerned for Kane himself if he prefers trophies over loyalty and shouldn't be concerned for Pogba. Come on! I'm not going to make a false statement.

If you think I'm trying to win you up or act like an 11 with my post then in your theory, you should have never try to wind other people up or act like an 11 from the first place by saying "I wonder if when Pogba will realize it as well."

Sorry but when I said "what we are aiming in the future" it is not about challenging the league but the aim is to actually win the league (I thought you know lol). In other words failure by finish 2nd or below or success by winning it. If you are talking about just challenging the league, that's not trophy at all!!

I don't see why moving from a Serie A to PL is your issue? Pogba wanted a new challenge and obviously by moving to a better league like PL from series A is considered to be a higher challenge for any players at the moment. And he knows that our club has the ambition to win trophy and is aiming to get into the top again by winning the league and Champion League not just by challenging the league and won nothing.

So far what you don't understand is that our aim in the future is to win the league and CL not just challenging them. And you are trying to think Spurs's aim to just challenging the league is the same as what we are aiming.
 
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His consistency is brilliant, seems like a likeable bloke too.

Mike09 said:
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So far what you don't understand is that our aim in the future is to win the league and CL not just challenging them. And you are trying to think Spurs's aim to just challenging the league is the same as what we are aiming.
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How have you come to the conclusion that United are aiming to win the league whereas Spurs are only aiming to challenge for it? Money spent?
 
Mike09 said:
I can't see how do you think I'm an 11 or trying to winds people up just by saying the fact that you have won nothing and while we have won something which can be concerned for Kane himself if he prefers trophies over loyalty and shouldn't be concerned for Pogba. Come on! I'm not going to make a false statement.

If you think I'm trying to win you up or act like an 11 with my post then in your theory, you should have never try to wind other people up or act like an 11 from the first place by saying "I wonder if when Pogba will realize it as well."

Sorry but when I said "what we are aiming in the future" it is not about challenging the league but the aim is to actually win the league (I thought you know lol). In other words failure by finish 2nd or below or success by winning it. If you are talking about just challenging the league, that's not trophy at all!!

I don't see why moving from a Serie A to PL is your issue? Pogba wanted a new challenge and obviously by moving to a better league like PL from series A is considered to be a higher challenge for any players at the moment. And he knows that our club has the ambition to win trophy and is aiming to get into the top again by winning the league and Champion League not just by challenging the league and won nothing.

So far what you don't understand is that our aim in the future is to win the league and CL not just challenging them. And you are trying to think Spurs's aim to just challenging the league is the same as what we are aiming.
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Spurs are 100% aiming to win the league and the CL in the future. I'm not sure why you would think otherwise.
 
Cascarino said:
His consistency is brilliant, seems like a likeable bloke too.



How have you come to the conclusion that United are aiming to win the league whereas Spurs are only aiming to challenge for it? Money spent?
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balaks said:
Spurs are 100% aiming to win the league and the CL in the future. I'm not sure why you would think otherwise.
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Him and me were talking about two different things. He was talking about "challenging the league" and it's not trophy at all. While I am talking about "winning trophies" and that's what United have been doing. As the season goes on every season ever since Sir Alex retired, every season the level of trophies that we have won are bigger and bigger, from community shield to FA to League Cup + EL together. I am sure you can guess what are the next trophies that we are aiming to win in the future.

The aim of winning trophies mean you either fail or win.
If your aim is to just challenging the league then finishing 2nd is considered to be a success and better than 3rd or 6th. While winning the league means finishing 2nd is considered to be a failure, same thing with finishing 3rd or 6th. Can't you see the difference?
 
Mike09 said:
Him and me were talking about two different things. He was talking about "challenging the league" and it's not trophy at all. While I am talking about "winning trophies" and that's what United have been doing. As the season goes on every season ever since Sir Alex retired, every season the level of trophies that we have won are bigger and bigger, from community shield to FA to League Cup + EL together. I am sure you can guess what are the next trophies that we are aiming to win in the future.

The aim of winning trophies mean you either fail or win.
If your aim is to just challenging the league then finishing 2nd is considered to be a success and better than 3rd or 6th. While winning the league means finishing 2nd is considered to be a failure, same thing with finishing 3rd or 6th. Can't you see the difference?
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Spurs should have won something last season so in that sense it was a failure. If we don't win something next year it will also be a failure. Spurs are trying to win things just as much as any other club, including Utd. You think you have a point but I don't think you do.

As I said earlier we are 100% trying to win every competition we are in.
 
balaks said:
Spurs should have won something last season so in that sense it was a failure. If we don't win something next year it will also be a failure. Spurs are trying to win things just as much as any other club, including Utd. You think you have a point but I don't think you do.

As I said earlier we are 100% trying to win every competition we are in.
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The conversation was about Kane has won nothing which led him to might go to another club if he prefers trophies over loyalty in the future. While Pogba has won something with us. The poster has no right to mention Pogba in this case, that's my point was. Obviously you only jumped into the conclusion.

Look okay fair enough so I guess I can assume that we are in an agreement that both of Spurs and United have failed in the league this season but at least we have a better season since we won trophies because both our club's aim have always been winning trophies in every competition. Otherwise it will considered be failure.
 
Canucantona20 said:
No chance of Spurs selling him, but I wonder how much he would go for in this inflated market.
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A good, English player in a decent team... Definitely world record fee. The number would be over £100m easily.

If we are really quoted 90m EUR for Morata though, we should be testing the waters at least. Could be another Shearer situation - we can afford him, but never get him. But we should at least try.
 
Flying_Heckfish said:
The number would be over £100m easily.
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In Poundsterling ? Not gonna happen mate. At least he add his skills with Messi + CR7 ability.

Kane is top goalscorer, agreed. But 100 million pound ? Even Guardiola himself would not pay for that amount.

Why ? Kane only good at EPL, but shit at Europe, and for NT. Him being the top score of last EPL was nothing. He exceeded Lukaku's goal after Spurs had no longer chance of being Champions.

And please, don't put meaningless friendly goals he scored recently. England played a off-form France. Even with 1 more man, England can not win.
 
Aza Boy said:
In Poundsterling ? Not gonna happen mate. At least he add his skills with Messi + CR7 ability.

Kane is top goalscorer, agreed. But 100 million pound ? Even Guardiola himself would not pay for that amount.

Why ? Kane only good at EPL, but shit at Europe, and for NT. Him being the top score of last EPL was nothing. He exceeded Lukaku's goal after Spurs had no longer chance of being Champions.

And please, don't put meaningless friendly goals he scored recently. England played a off-form France. Even with 1 more man, England can not win.
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The number's not just about his ability, it's about him being at a team where he is settled and has not intention to sell him. Levy probably wouldn't even sell for 150 mil
 
Aza Boy said:
Him being the top score of last EPL was nothing.
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He was top scorer in the season before last too, wasn't he?

He doesn't fully convince me in terms of being a world level striker (as in, could win you a Champions League or a World Cup), but definitely elite in terms of the Premier League.
 
Mciahel Goodman said:
He was top scorer in the season before last too, wasn't he?

He doesn't fully convince me in terms of being a world level striker (as in, could win you a Champions League or a World Cup), but definitely elite in terms of the Premier League.
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i think he'd shine at madrid
 
Aza Boy said:
In Poundsterling ?
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Yes.

He is playing in the Premier League for a stable club (+) is English (++) experienced (+++) and is actually decent (++++). On top of that, the market is further inflated this season.

Sterling's price is a good example. A player from abroad (even with more experience) would have probably been about £30m at the time. Prices have gone even crazier since then.
 
Aza Boy said:
Why ? Kane only good at EPL, but shit at Europe, and for NT.
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I've never understood the Red Cafe concept that Kane is shit in European play. He's got an excellent scoring record for Spurs in Europe.

(since he broke into the team full time in 2014-2015):

Europa League: 18 apps / 11 goals
Champions League 3 apps / 2 goals

That's 13 goals in his last 21 European matches, which is far from "shit". It's not quite as high as his strike rate in the PL, but that's been otherworldly and is probably impossible to replicate on the European stage.
 
Aza Boy said:
In Poundsterling ? Not gonna happen mate. At least he add his skills with Messi + CR7 ability.

Kane is top goalscorer, agreed. But 100 million pound ? Even Guardiola himself would not pay for that amount.

Why ? Kane only good at EPL, but shit at Europe, and for NT. Him being the top score of last EPL was nothing. He exceeded Lukaku's goal after Spurs had no longer chance of being Champions.

And please, don't put meaningless friendly goals he scored recently. England played a off-form France. Even with 1 more man, England can not win.
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I think there's a big gap between what teams would be willing to pay and what Spurs would be willing to sell for. This window I don't even think Levy would consider a 200m bid, not that I think one would come. And for that reason he's not going anywhere.
 
Aza Boy said:
In Poundsterling ? Not gonna happen mate. At least he add his skills with Messi + CR7 ability.

Kane is top goalscorer, agreed. But 100 million pound ? Even Guardiola himself would not pay for that amount.

Why ? Kane only good at EPL, but shit at Europe, and for NT. Him being the top score of last EPL was nothing. He exceeded Lukaku's goal after Spurs had no longer chance of being Champions.

And please, don't put meaningless friendly goals he scored recently. England played a off-form France. Even with 1 more man, England can not win.
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Regardless of how you view his ability, you don't understand Spurs's position.

He won't go any time soon. If he did, it would be far higher than £100m. Believe me.
 
Aza Boy said:
In Poundsterling ? Not gonna happen mate. At least he add his skills with Messi + CR7 ability.

Kane is top goalscorer, agreed. But 100 million pound ? Even Guardiola himself would not pay for that amount.
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That doesn't matter at all.

The question is how much would it take for Spurs to actually agree to sell him. Levy would literally laugh in your face if you 'only' offered £100m. I doubt he'd even think about it for a moment unless you started getting up close to £150m. That's the key here. No club will offer what it would take for Spurs to sell. It's why he's not getting linked anywhere at all, as everybody knows it obviously isn't going to happen.

That may change in two years or so if Spurs don't kick on any further (or indeed if they fall away) and Kane starts pushing for a move himself. Which is kind of what I expect to happen. But for now he's going nowhere.
 
vadimivich said:
I've never understood the Red Cafe concept that Kane is shit in European play. He's got an excellent scoring record for Spurs in Europe.

(since he broke into the team full time in 2014-2015):

Europa League: 18 apps / 11 goals
Champions League 3 apps / 2 goals

That's 13 goals in his last 21 European matches, which is far from "shit". It's not quite as high as his strike rate in the PL, but that's been otherworldly and is probably impossible to replicate on the European stage.
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Hey don't let the facts get in the way of blind bias.
 
Aza Boy said:
... And please, don't put meaningless friendly goals he scored recently. England played a off-form France. Even with 1 more man, England can not win.
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So the friendly (and Kane's goals) was "meaningless" ... except for the meaning that you give it, namely (a) that France were "off-form"; and (b) England were rubbish ("even with 1 more man England can not win").

I see ...
 
Aza Boy said:
In Poundsterling ? Not gonna happen mate. At least he add his skills with Messi + CR7 ability.

Kane is top goalscorer, agreed. But 100 million pound ? Even Guardiola himself would not pay for that amount.

Why ? Kane only good at EPL, but shit at Europe, and for NT. Him being the top score of last EPL was nothing. He exceeded Lukaku's goal after Spurs had no longer chance of being Champions.

And please, don't put meaningless friendly goals he scored recently. England played a off-form France. Even with 1 more man, England can not win.
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Ok mate. - 'shit in Europe' - 13 goals in last 21 european matches is shit is it?

'he can't do it at the highest level' (or words to that effect) - Kane scored 3 goals in last 2 games for England - 'oh but you can't count them' - ok nice one mate.

I take it you wont rate him until he single handedly wins England the World Cup and single handedly wins Spurs both the league and Champions League?
 
He's a bit of a hot-head, acting Billly Big Bollocks.

This tackle on Manolas during pre-season and the tackle on Lejeune are very similar - both feet off the ground, injuring the player, and HK getting a yellow and subsequently bitching at the referee


 
DWelbz19 said:
Alli is the absolute worst with it
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Alli, Kane, Dier (especially this idiot), Wanyama sometimes. All thuggish and go in with horror tackles when things don't go their way.

Spurs haven't had a red card in the League since the 2014/15 season, ridiculous stat considering the way they play
 


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Theafonis said:
Alli, Kane, Dier (especially this idiot), Wanyama sometimes. All thuggish and go in with horror tackles when things don't go their way.

Spurs haven't had a red card in the League since the 2014/15 season, ridiculous stat considering the way they play
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Wow that's ridiculous, how is that even possible?! So many dirty cnuts on that team, Rose too.
 


Has to be the worst attempt at a professional foul I've ever seen.

Oh and still no league goals in August.
 
So watching him against Chelsea.. and now that any 'flash in the pan' accusations have been put to bed over the last season. I have to say he has grown into a really top all-round forward despite not getting on the scoresheet on the weekend, he was a constant threat and pulled off some really skilful moments.

I used to feel stressed thinking we would spend £100m on a Kane, but genuinely think some team eventually will because he is probably the best forward in the league at the moment and with greater exposure in the CL and internationally, he can make an impact there too.

The most impressive thing is his strength and hold up play, he is just so good at using his body compared to say Lukaku, and he has a very simple but effective way of running with the ball even in wide areas.. he left guys like Luiz for dust at times.

This might sound controversial, but Jesus at City is to me nothing but a glorified Hernandez with little to shout about outside the box.. their real threat remains Aguero, and in a few years time if they want a proper CF icon to take over from him.. I reckon Kane would be ideal for them.
 
Raees said:
So watching him against Chelsea.. and now that any 'flash in the pan' accusations have been put to bed over the last season. I have to say he has grown into a really top all-round forward despite not getting on the scoresheet on the weekend, he was a constant threat and pulled off some really skilful moments.

I used to feel stressed thinking we would spend £100m on a Kane, but genuinely think some team eventually will because he is probably the best forward in the league at the moment and with greater exposure in the CL and internationally, he can make an impact there too.

The most impressive thing is his strength and hold up play, he is just so good at using his body compared to say Lukaku, and he has a very simple but effective way of running with the ball even in wide areas.. he left guys like Luiz for dust at times.

This might sound controversial, but Jesus at City is to me nothing but a glorified Hernandez with little to shout about outside the box.. their real threat remains Aguero, and in a few years time if they want a proper CF icon to take over from him.. I reckon Kane would be ideal for them.
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Yeah his overall play was very good. The way he dribbled past Rudiger was so easy and effortless.
 
So after his usual August drought.. He bagged two goals for England on Friday.

How many will he get this season?
 
Harry Kane is deceptively quick for a tall guy! Like a lightning strike out of nowhere. No love for Spurs here but I do hope he delivers for the NT.
 
His shot locations are all exactly where you'd want your striker to be taking shots from. He was never going to really drop off if you looked at the crunch numbers. It wasn't a hot streak or unsustainable conversion rate from a low number of shots. He's not classically aesthetic but he'll continue to net as long as he has his finishing ability. I still hope he has a poor season though, could do with the top four race being less competitive this year.
 
I still get joy thinking about how many people were adamant he was a one season wonder.
 
He's a world class player, but didn't have a world class season last time around. His numbers were misleadingly inflated in the last two games. I think Lukaku's on a par with him and will prove it by May.
 
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