I wonder if when Pogba will realize it as well.
Harry Kane MBE | Performances
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I wonder if when Pogba will realize it as well.
He realised it mate and won 2 Trophies with his new team in his first season, your poster boy will be next, unfortunatley you dont get trophies for putting pressure on title challengers
Bit rich considering United just won the Europa League and League Cup, and the FA Cup just before he joined. What have Spurs won in the same time period? Oh yeah, they put the pressure on and finished 3rd in a 2 horse race
Come on, that was a good come back.
But seriously. Kane and Alli are pure class.
Even more than winning things... how long til they demand the wages they should be on (3x their current).
Not long, I would guess.
Ehm...how many trophies did you win last season compared with United?
Let's not pretend that any decent player will actually be fussed about winning the Europa League and League Cup.
I'd sign Kane whatever the price, he's a great player. I think he will stay at Spurs though, it's Alli that I feel is more likely to leave of the two.
I'd sign Kane whatever the price, he's a great player. I think he will stay at Spurs though, it's Alli that I feel is more likely to leave of the two.
I keep thinking about this funny thread regarding Rashford and Kane.
feck me I never thought I'd see a proud tin cup United.
My emoji didn't work lol.
The "the bigger picture" includes him looking down the table at United for 3 of the last 4 seasons, not to mention seeing a United manager who may well be gone in a year or so.
It's really quite amusing seeing the endless lamentations on here over Spurs not selling you our best players are. It seems that some of you are baffled: "but, but, but we have loads of money ... why isn't it working?"
Harry Surely will be leaving as soon as he has come to grips with the fact that jesse lingard earns more than him. Yeh trophies are great but money is greater. Its a huge driving force and sooner or later the entire spurs team will a) get tired of being second place b) get tired of not even being as well paid as Fellaini
FWIW I think he'll do a Shearer and just stay at Spuds his whole career. Probably win an FA Cup.
Unfortunately for you, the "later" - which apparently has been about to happen in each and every one of several summer past as I recall - gets stretched out into a receding future and never seems to quite arrive.
Berbatov was 9 years ago and will never be repeated. The sooner you come to acceptance, the sooner you'll cease to live in false hope.
What a crock of shite this is. Let's not pretend that football is about anything but winning trophies for both players and fans. Just ask Arsenal fans.
I'm sure top players will be thrilled to sign for United at the prospect of winning those two trophies. Trophies are great and all, but a top player won't sign for a team because they've won those in the past season.
I agree with you mate, Spurs are on the cusp of greatness with a squad and batch of young British players not to dissimilar to the one United had in the early 90s. As they grow together, plus a few more experienced signings, ideally including one or two catalystic ones, and I can really see Spurs becoming a genuine force, and possibly the most formidable one, in England if they can adapt to the bigger pitches at Wembley and the new stadium.
With Chelsea likely to spunk circa £100m on Lukaku and United looking towards Morata/Belotti, it shows that there is zero interest on the part of Kane or the club to to push for a transfer; he'd solve both club's #9 problem for the next 10 years, but it's clearly not viable.
I find it odd that Spurs get such little respect on here, considering they're the closest thing in modern football to what United were during the Ferguson dynasty; they have that core humility that Woodward diluted out of United post 2013, and the trajectories of both clubs in the time since reflect that.
Not bothered about much else that you've said though I mostly disagree with you, but, what guarantee is there that Pochettino will be at Spurs much longer than another year or two either? You can't really use that as some sort of barometer for why a Spurs player shouldn't come here.
Yeah money is a different issue
I was only responding about ambition, and I'd argue that we're as likely to win the league next season as any other club. In fact I think we're in a better position than United right now hence the Pogba throwback.
However, we currently got the 11th highest wage bill in the world though, so it's not like they aren't getting paid at all. And I can see Alli being offered contracts breaking the wage structure after we move to the new stadium.
Never know what will happen, but the enjoyment some people get from potential transfers of the best players from clubs who aren't injected millions from dubious characters is strange to me.
Top players signed for United when United was in that competition.
Winning trophies + huge wages is the reason why players move, especially the wages.
Don't be pedantic. You can see United are a project at the moment, the fact that they're winning trophies during a transition period is a good sign.
As a Spurs fan I'm quite pleased about it. The hate and vitriol shows we're a challenger and someone to worry about and have others hope we do poorly.
No offence to you but we've won more in the last two seasons then you have recently. In fact I believe two years ago Leicester city won the league above you and in that season chelsea were rubbish. Then last season, they over took you. The reality is you've won nothing. Playing sideways and backwards football atleast we won the FA Cup under LVG. Last season was a notable improvement with the problem being glaringly obvious. Depending on what we do in the summer, I wouldn't feel too comfortable just yet
A history of winning trophies counts for a lot. It helps not to bottle it.
Trying to put this thread back on the rails a bit....Kane is a wonderful goal scorer and happy he's doing his part for Spurs. Honest, hard working and intelligent player who is clinical. If he can remain fit for the majority of a season and sustain his goal/assist ratio, Spurs will continue to give themselves a very good chance at winning the league.
Firstly, I said he would be wanted by "Many" big clubs not just us, although lets be realsitic here you know that we will win the league and other trophies before Spurs do, Even after our horrendous last 3-4 seasons we have still won more trophies than Spurs, a few community shields, an FA Cup, League Cup and Europa league, you guys couldnt even progress past Gent ffs
You can play the Money card too, it's a lazy argument, we are rich because of our success and you know it but Im not even going down that road, Kane will leave eventually and go on to win trophies without Spurs, be it with us, Chelsea, City or Abroad somewhere.
No offence to you but we've won more in the last two seasons then you have recently. In fact I believe two years ago Leicester city won the league above you and in that season chelsea were rubbish. Then last season, they over took you. The reality is you've won nothing. Playing sideways and backwards football atleast we won the FA Cup under LVG. Last season was a notable improvement with the problem being glaringly obvious. Depending on what we do in the summer, I wouldn't feel too comfortable just yet
A history of winning trophies counts for a lot. It helps not to bottle it.
I'm a Chelsea fan?
You don't understand my point. Top players move to win trophies but they don't move to win the Europa League and League Cup. I'd be surprised if a top level player considered that as a factor in moving to United. There is plenty of reasons to move to united, but winning those this season is not one of them.
My point is, a player who signs for united will sign regardless of whether you won those two trophies or not. It will make zero difference in their decision. They won't be signing for united hoping they can win those two trophies. They'll (rightfully) be aiming higher than that.
That is such a bold statement to say especially with the fact that United have won more trophies than Spurs ever since Sir Alex retired.
I would not want a player in my team that wouldn't want to win every cup possible.
My claim is only that you don't move from Spurs to United in this transfer window because of personal ambition to win things. Winning the EL isn't all that, it's a competition you don't even want to be in next year.
Was just a tongue in cheek response to the constant comments about how all our players are too good for us and need to move to win.
Spurs are in just as good a position as any other club to win the league next season IMO, and I'm sure Kane feels the same way and ready to try to win something where he's at.
To be honest, the hate for Spurs on here isn't primarily because of how Spurs are performing. And I will give them credit because they have been fantastic over the last few years.
Its mostly because the Spurs fans on this forum tend to be insufferable(No prizes for guessing which ones). I really dont get why either, yes you are doing better than United but we arent even rivals.
It says a lot when the Liverpool fans fit better on here than the Spurs ones. Even in the 2014 season when the ultimate redcafe nightmare scenario almost came to pass, it was much better.
As for Kane, I used to doubt him after his first season, and thought he would be a one season wonder, but it has reached a point where he is simply among the best strikers in the world.
Which chelsea? The old school mid table chelsea or the one where your funded by questionable means?
A trophy is a trophy. All the great teams know that. There is no place for snobbery. We still got Pogba and an aged like fine wine Zlatan without much fuss. Players aren't stupid. Lots of people would sign on if they trust the direction of the club and obviously the managers vision. We kept good players during our struggles - just like many top teams do when the ship is wobbling.When you win something, the elation cannot be that different.
I dunno I can find a good level of hate / heavy handed criticism / whatever you want to call it here for just about every other top 6 club.
The clubs outside of that typically don't get the same level of aggro or split opinions.
Its not as poisonous as the Spurs thread.
And the Spurs posters equally tend not to last long on here.
Of course, you cant generalise..I think Africanspur is a decent poster.
EL will not be our last trophy anyway. You have to look at that our club's aim is to win trophy and from Community Shield with Moyes to FA Cup with LVG and League Cup + EL together with Jose Mourinho.
That shows every season the level of trophies that we won are bigger and bigger which IMO can be positive to gain that winning mentality (not being bottle). I am sure you can guess what we are aiming in the future right? EPL and CL!! We show that we have the ambition, while Spurs so far has won nothing and bottle it for two seasons in a row.
And that's why it makes sense why the poster said Kane will have to open those eyes soon if he prefers trophies over loyalty. I just can't see your sense of post for mentioning Pogba when he did win trophies with us and obviously he knows that we mean business to win higher achievements in the future.
It's because of the resident Spurs posters, not how your club is doing on the pitch. You should be the neutral's favourite but people would rather see Chelsea win the title than you, that says a lot.
I think the vast majority of people on this forum are in agreement now on Kane due to his consistent scoring record. You just can't deny it now. I think most people are pretty fair on this forum and will admit if they have been wrong about a player. You do get the odd WUM of course but that is the same on any internet forum.
Kane is class.
Yeah I guess you're right. That Spurs thread is an absolute disaster.
Kane is a superstar in the making IMO.
I really like him. Fair play if Spurs can keep him long-term. Good for the league.
They will have to seriously smash their wage structure at some point though.
I really like him. Fair play if Spurs can keep him long-term. Good for the league.
They will have to seriously smash their wage structure at some point though.