Harry Kane MBE | Performances

InLevyITrust said:
Lol have u seen Benzema this season? It's comments like urs confirm that most fans don't watch football matches. He has been terrible considering he's at Madrird. harry has out scored him over the last 3 seasons, I simply don't get foreign hype of players, I'd say Vardy would even have scored more than Benzema in the last 2 seasons.
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Lol Benzema has proven himself at the highest level over time and gave another reminder that he's still got it in a CL semifinal. Kane was arguably the biggest flop at last summers Euro's and outside of the Premier League bubble has done sweet FA.
 
InLevyITrust said:
Why do we still have such foreign player hype compared to our own league? I simply don't understand.
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I presume it's because in general the media here like to hype up British talents to almost absurd levels to the point where people sort of turn against them. Initially the player is hyped as a top talent, but as the media become so fond of them they kind of end up overrating them. Fans therefore highlight the fact the player is overrated, but do so to a point where the player conversely becomes underrated.

It happened with Bale. In 2010/11 when he had what many would consider to be his first very good season, with the hat-trick against Inter etc, he was being overhyped by the media. People recognised this. But he then continued to improve, and got better and better to the point where he quite genuinely was top class and worthy of a lot of the hyperbole that people had been using.
 
Zoo said:
Lol Benzema has proven himself at the highest level over time and gave another reminder that he's still got it in a CL semifinal. Kane was arguably the biggest flop at last summers Euro's and outside of the Premier League bubble has done sweet FA.
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This is a bit ridiculous. The "Premier League bubble" within which Kane is being rated consists of the vast majority of games he plays as a professional footballer. So...err, of course people are going to rate his ability based on how he performs within that bubble.

The games he's played in the Euros and CL are an incredibly small sample. I'd be surprised if he doesn't perform in Europe/for his national team at some point.
 
Cheesy said:
This is a bit ridiculous. The "Premier League bubble" within which Kane is being rated consists of the vast majority of games he plays as a professional footballer. So...err, of course people are going to rate his ability based on how he performs within that bubble.

The games he's played in the Euros and CL are an incredibly small sample. I'd be surprised if he doesn't perform in Europe/for his national team at some point.
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He has to prove that before we can start talking about him better then someone like Benzema. I rate Kane but the similar was being said 12 months and he went on to be atrocious in the Euro's.
 
Question is, will Spurs like to trade the potential of Harry Kane for Rooney?
 
GlastonSpur said:
Of course. We don't need the money and, as I've said, Kane is the iconic key to Levy's plans not just on the pitch but also commercially-speaking concerning the new stadium and a variety of new sponsorship deals.

Aside from anything else, Pochettino would likely resign if Kane were sold - and Levy won't have that.

Plus, you shelled out close to £100m for Pogba last summer. Kane is worth far, far, far more to Spurs than Pogba is to United. Ultra-prolific goal-scorers are almost priceless. Merely pretty good CMs are not.
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I actually think this is very very important when it comes to Levy`s valuation of Kane. If rumours are correct, our chairman has set his mark quite high when it comes to the new stadium naming rights deal. 2-3 months back I read that he hopes to get £400m of the stadium cost back in the naming rights deal. Don`t know over what time frame, but point being the amount is huge. Tottenham`s brand value and pull on the world wide tv audience are currently more connected to Harry Kane than any one other player. To get the best possible deal we need to show ambition & we need to look like we want to compete for trophys. You don`t do that without stars & he is our biggest star! (well, together with Poch is suppose) I`m pretty certain Levy sees this. You can probably also factor into Levy`s hypothetical selling price whatever amount he feels Kane adds to stuff like other upcoming sponsorship deals, merchandising and even ticket demand...


No way that he plans to sell Kane before the new stadium opens. In order to convince him otherwise I think it`s fair to say that £100m is simply no chance. £150m? Possibly, but given our current situation I think a bidder would have to come up with an even more stupid amount to convince Levy to sell next 2 seasons. After that, who knows...
 
CapitalismSucks said:
I actually think this is very very important when it comes to Levy`s valuation of Kane. If rumours are correct, our chairman has set his mark quite high when it comes to the new stadium naming rights deal. 2-3 months back I read that he hopes to get £400m of the stadium cost back in the naming rights deal. Don`t know over what time frame, but point being the amount is huge. Tottenham`s brand value and pull on the world wide tv audience are currently more connected to Harry Kane than any one other player. To get the best possible deal we need to show ambition & we need to look like we want to compete for trophys. You don`t do that without stars & he is our biggest star! (well, together with Poch is suppose) I`m pretty certain Levy sees this. You can probably also factor into Levy`s hypothetical selling price whatever amount he feels Kane adds to stuff like other upcoming sponsorship deals, merchandising and even ticket demand...


No way that he plans to sell Kane before the new stadium opens. In order to convince him otherwise I think it`s fair to say that £100m is simply no chance. £150m? Possibly, but given our current situation I think a bidder would have to come up with an even more stupid amount to convince Levy to sell next 2 seasons. After that, who knows...
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Yup, can't afford to lose Kane, even for silly money. Not only would it hurt us on the field, we would lose our most marketable 'homegrown' superstar, on top of this it would send the wrong signal to Alli, Eriksen etc. unless we immediately strengthen, something we can't with our wage structure. Levy will probably not think about selling, not even for 150m (not like he would be worth nothing if he wanted to leave in the future either).
 
Spurs would be mental to sell him and I don't think they will. They just need to get him to score in all competitions like he does in the prem. It will be impossible to bring a decent back up in that knows they are going to be consigned to 15 games a season, so he really needs to start doing it in Europe and cup game winning goals.

I have to say, I was one that thought the prem would suss him out, but hats off to him. Will be very interested to see how he and Spurs start next season. The world class tag is slight hyperbole and have to agree with a post above, the premier league bubble seems to elevate him above proven continental strikers - which I find strange. He'll have his opportunity again next season, here's hoping for England's sake he takes another step.
 
He is world class..

Spurs won't sell this season and I wouldn't be surprised if he was there for a long time but wow would I love him at united.
 
El General 1994 said:
@GlastonSpur I'm not trying to WUM you at all, and I know you have stated your reasons as to why he won't join United, but hypothetically how much £ would it take to make Levy think of letting him go?
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Unless Kane kicks up a massive fuss and literally severs all ties with the club, goes on strike, screws Levy's daughter, shits on Pochettino's pillow etc, I don't think any price would really tempt Levy.

What would we do with that money? We don't have the pull or the wage structure to attract players of a similar quality who are ready to come in straight away. He's an englishman, who knows and has come from within the club, is loyal and unless he has a horrific injury, is a guaranteed 20-30 goals per season in the league.

Unless Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez or Neymar suddenly decide they have a desperate urge to play in North London for 100k a week, there is no scenario (imo) in which we would come out of any sale better off.

As for whether that scenario happened, how much Levy would finally bite the bullet....you'd think it would be well over 100 million.
 
El General 1994 said:
@GlastonSpur I'm not trying to WUM you at all, and I know you have stated your reasons as to why he won't join United, but hypothetically how much £ would it take to make Levy think of letting him go?
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I don't think it serves any purpose to put hypothetical figures for a player that Spurs won't be selling. He's key to the Spurs brand (both off and on the pitch) as we move towards our new stadium - with naming rights and other sponsorship deals to negotiate - and Levy knows it.
 
Worth an absolute fortune! Only 2 players in the past few years who guarantee 20-30 goals per season even with injuries. Aguero and Kane. Shows how good he is to be in that bracket with Aguero.
 
He's just brilliant. His movement and intelligence on the pitch are fantastic and he is capable of scoring a wide array of goals. Fantastic player.
 
Just realised his goals yesterday were all with his left foot too.
 
Career stats up until the end of the season before their 24th Birthdays:

Kane - 115 goals in 230 games
Shearer - 99 in 232 games
 
pcaming said:
3 seasons later and people still questioning him?
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Sorry but he played against Stoke September 10th this season, 18th of april last season and the 9th of May the season before that and in his first season on of his 10 games was against Stoke and when was it? You guessed it, late April.

Tottenham haven't had to do it in the afternoon or night at Britannia and never even in mildly bad weather for a long time so until then he's still a bit of a questionmark.
 
if I was Tottenham i wouldn't sell him either, especially while he is happy. You don't find strikers like that easily/regularly, and even if they get 100m like they did with Bale there's no guarantee you'll come out of it better.

He's not going to lose any value in the next few years either, so it's safe to say while they're doing well he will stay for a few more years.
 
Snow said:
Sorry but he played against Stoke September 10th this season, 18th of april last season and the 9th of May the season before that and in his first season on of his 10 games was against Stoke and when was it? You guessed it, late April.

Tottenham haven't had to do it in the afternoon or night at Britannia and never even in mildly bad weather for a long time so until then he's still a bit of a questionmark.
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Damn.. can't argue with that.
 
I predict an early decline due to injuries and hype. Kane doesnt worry me, we need to find a similar player, who is able to score against cannon fodder and stay fit.
 
izec said:
I predict an early decline due to injuries and hype. Kane doesnt worry me, we need to find a similar player, who is able to score against cannon fodder and stay fit.
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Kane scores against the top teams as well though. He isn't just a flat track bully.
 
balaks said:
Career stats up until the end of the season before their 24th Birthdays:

Kane - 115 goals in 230 games
Shearer - 99 in 232 games
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Kane has an excellent chance at beating his record. Spurs have a premier league great in their hands.
 
He'll probably need to do it CL/Int level before he gets the plaudits he deserves. Being the type of player he is, he just isnt flashy enough for people who dont watch him game in game out.

Fabulous player though its rare to see a striker score 20 + every season in the PL. How do people think he'd do at say Madrid in La Liga?
 
balaks said:
Career stats up until the end of the season before their 24th Birthdays:

Kane - 115 goals in 230 games
Shearer - 99 in 232 games
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Those numbers are for all comps (incl. Championship and League One for Kane)

Top flight league only:
Kane - 77 in 116
Shearer - 70 in 179

Depending on how you look at it: even more impressive by Kane but also somewhat skewed by the fact that he first got to spend 3-4 seasons on loan getting playing time below the top flight while Shearer was immediately starting out in the top flight as a teenager.
 
Snow said:
Sorry but he played against Stoke September 10th this season, 18th of april last season and the 9th of May the season before that and in his first season on of his 10 games was against Stoke and when was it? You guessed it, late April.

Tottenham haven't had to do it in the afternoon or night at Britannia and never even in mildly bad weather for a long time so until then he's still a bit of a questionmark.
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fair enough mate, he's shite
 
What makes Kane world class in my view is that he does a lot more than score bucket loads of goals. He provides assists (7 in the league this season), he holds the ball up well, he harries and hassles as part of our closing down and pressing, and he works his socks off in each and every game. Defenders never get a minute to rest.

And his goals are of every type: left foot, right foot, long range, short range and headers.
 
africanspur said:
We don't have the pull or the wage structure to attract players of a similar quality who are ready to come in straight away. He's an englishman, who knows and has come from within the club, is loyal and unless he has a horrific injury, is a guaranteed 20-30 goals per season in the league.

Unless Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez or Neymar suddenly decide they have a desperate urge to play in North London for 100k a week, there is no scenario (imo) in which we would come out of any sale better off.
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You think players of Harry Kane's quality are Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez and Neymar? Good grief.
 
GlastonSpur said:
What makes Kane world class in my view is that he does a lot more than score bucket loads of goals. He provides assists (7 in the league this season), he holds the ball up well, he harries and hassles as part of our closing down and pressing, and he works his socks off in each and every game. Defenders never get a minute to rest.

And his goals are of every type: left foot, right foot, long range, short range and headers.
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Virtually all strikers get assists and many get more, 7 isn't a lot. Working hard for me doesn't make a player a world class player, he just had a great attitute. World Class for me is their actual skills and ability. He is very good though. A top English centre forward
 
Stacks said:
Virtually all strikers get assists and many get more, 7 isn't a lot. Working hard for me doesn't make a player a world class player, he just had a great attitute. World Class for me is their actual skills and ability. He is very good though. A top English centre forward
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World class is totally subjective and everybody has different opinions on it. I don't think anybody would disagree though with Kane being the finest English striker since Shearer.
 
balaks said:
World class is totally subjective and everybody has different opinions on it. I don't think anybody would disagree though with Kane being the finest English striker since Shearer.
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Kane is obviously the best striker in PL but he isn't the finest since Shearer. Rooney was amazing player and I think people forget how good he was.
 
roonster09 said:
Kane is obviously the best striker in PL but he isn't the finest since Shearer. Rooney was amazing player and I think people forget how good he was.
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Oh dont get me wrong, I absolutely appretiate Rooney but as I said I wouldnt view him as a pure striker which is why I said what I said. Rooney was an incredible talent and was world class in his late teens and early twenties no doubt about it.
 
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