Well the evidence so far is that he has scored 2 goals in 3 games in the Champions League. I'd say thats a promising start wouldnt you?
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Well the evidence so far is that he has scored 2 goals in 3 games in the Champions League. I'd say thats a promising start wouldnt you?
He has a team built for him. Which is fine if that's how Spurs want to do it and he suits the system well. I saw him against Chelsea (even when you won) and he was awful. Didn't hold the ball up, kept losing it and started coming closer to the halfway line to try and get the ball. Also against United he was poor and irrelevant and also in the CL and lets not forget how bad he was for England either when he doesnt have the team doing all the work for him and defenders (average ones at that) kept him very quiet.
With the amount of flair and creativity that a team like Spurs can provide, yes he will score goals and he is built well for the premier league but he tends to go hot and cold. Going long periods without scoring then bagging in 7 in the next 4. Needs to be more consistent. Still young and can be an excellent premier league striker but he's far from world class as suggested. Alli has more potential to be world class in my opinion.
Needs to be more consistent? I'm assuming you wont rate him highly until he scores in every match and never has a single poor game then. He is on course to score over 20 goals for the 3rd season in a row which to me is very consistent. Anyway, you are completely entitled to your own opinion on him. He is 23 years old - he will have the odd bad game, who doesnt? He will have games when he doesnt score - who doesnt?
Gareth bale
Typical "seen-one-game" syndrome, and then knowing everything about the player
. I have seen an awful game of Messi lately, so he surely can't be worldclass and isn't worth the money Typical "seen-one-game" syndrome, and then knowing everything about the player
Pogba had a stinker at the weekend so he is clearly complete rubbish also.
I saw him against Chelsea last season and he single handed destroyed them
Think he's class and if he can stay fit I strongly fancy spurs to nick the title.
I think the Spurs fans are defending their player from what they feel is attack. I can only speak for myself when I say I'm not attacking Kane, but rather pointing out that this talk, in relation to his value is absurd when there's already a status quo proven time and again by the strikers at the elite clubs and what they've done to earn the move to said clubs. By that scale, what Kane has done in the league is pretty good, but outside of it, he is well short on the pre-requisite. Aguero, Costa, Ibrahimovic, Lewandowski, Benzema, Aubameyang, Suarez, Higuain are the strikers at the top of the tree. Look what they did to earn their moves, or in Aubameyang's case. how much he's having to do to get his dream move to Spain.
It's either that, or it's a punt on a much lower priced player who proves himself the hard way from the ground up at the club ala Giroud or what's happening at Liverpool.
Kane being in that bracket with the aforementioned without doing something similar to what they've done to earn their moves, would be unprecedented.
It's either that, or it's a punt on a much lower priced player who proves himself the hard way from the ground up at the club ala Giroud or what's happening at Liverpool.
Kane being in that bracket with the aforementioned without doing something similar to what they've done to earn their moves, would be unprecedented.
Again. Gareth bale. End of argument
I'm not talking in the context of Kane moving or whatever fee he would command for a move - that for obvious reasons is not something I'm interested in. I think he has done pretty much all he can so far within reason to prove he is a very good player. Has he got it in him to become one of the top tier strikers in world football? I believe he does have that ability. Yes he needs to prove it at a higher level but he is still only 23 and has plenty of time to do that - hopefully within the Champions League with Spurs and with England.
His record so far is highly impressive - I think we can all agree on that.
It's feckin irrelevant what players did in the past, the only important factor is what clubs think the player will be able to achieve in the future. You don't have to achieve wonders in the CL, or in some European tournament, to show that you are top draw. I am far from a Spurs fan, but the manner some people here are underestimating him clearly just shows that they didn't see a whole lot of games from him.
Became a superstar after his exploits in the Champions League, particularly tearing an ageing Maicon to shreds in his hatrick game. His continued work outside the league made him a sure thing for the elite clubs to move in on.
What continued work outside PL? Barring a few excellent CL games he was quietish at international level. Wasn't top dog in the PL either.
Kane is at the same level now that bale was then
His performance at the Euros left a lot of question marks that now have to be answered. Yes, he definitelyt has time, and he may well go on to do that, but that's when he'll be on the radar and have his loyalty tested, not now.
You have to be joking if you think clubs splurge that kind of money without the credentials of the target being vital.
Personally I think Kane is slightly under rated, and I really don't understand why.
Leaving aside his scoring record, which is indisputable. His all round play is actually much better and more cultured than people give credit for.
Particularly when playing with Eriksen and Ali he can be just as effective a playmaker as either. Holds the ball well, is strong, aerial threat and does have good feet.
He has it in him to be a really top class no. 9, if Spurs don't kick on as they look like they should I'd love to see him at United, though I dunno if we will have the room within the required time frame. Failing that a bigger club than Spurs, no offence meant.
Leaving aside his scoring record, which is indisputable. His all round play is actually much better and more cultured than people give credit for.
Particularly when playing with Eriksen and Ali he can be just as effective a playmaker as either. Holds the ball well, is strong, aerial threat and does have good feet.
He has it in him to be a really top class no. 9, if Spurs don't kick on as they look like they should I'd love to see him at United, though I dunno if we will have the room within the required time frame. Failing that a bigger club than Spurs, no offence meant.
Bale proved himself outside of the league to a far greater extent than Kane has. They are clearly not at the same level as Bale was before he moved. The Inter game put him into a different stratosphere to what he was before it.
England had an absolute stinker of a tournament with Kane especially being totally misused by an inept manager - he took the corners for goodness sake?! He didn't have a good tournament but I dont think any English player (bar possibly Dier) came away having played well. He has plenty of time to prove himself.
Personally I think Kane is slightly under rated, and I really don't understand why.
Leaving aside his scoring record, which is indisputable. His all round play is actually much better and more cultured than people give credit for.
Particularly when playing with Eriksen and Ali he can be just as effective a playmaker as either. Holds the ball well, is strong, aerial threat and does have good feet.
He has it in him to be a really top class no. 9, if Spurs don't kick on as they look like they should I'd love to see him at United, though I dunno if we will have the room within the required time frame. Failing that a bigger club than Spurs, no offence meant.
Leaving aside his scoring record, which is indisputable. His all round play is actually much better and more cultured than people give credit for.
Particularly when playing with Eriksen and Ali he can be just as effective a playmaker as either. Holds the ball well, is strong, aerial threat and does have good feet.
He has it in him to be a really top class no. 9, if Spurs don't kick on as they look like they should I'd love to see him at United, though I dunno if we will have the room within the required time frame. Failing that a bigger club than Spurs, no offence meant.
Leaving aside the Euro's which nobody in England played well tbh - he can only prove himself against the teams he is up against - Spurs wimpered out of the Champions League this season but he still scored 2 goals in 3 matches - he can't do much more than that.
He is not the flashiest of players, he doesnt beat people for fun or have blistering pace so I can see how some people maybe do not appretiate him as a player. But I think he is the real deal. If he can stay fit he will be a consistently top class striker and will score an absolute bucket load of goals throughout his career. A striker who consistently scores goals will always be in demand and he I believe will prove himself to be one of the very best around.
You have to be joking if you think that a couple of good performances international change anything. No point in discussing furthermore. I will just come back to you and say haha, when he moves for the price he is going to move.
To put Kanes achievements into perspective... If he manages 20 Premier League goals this year he will be joining the below list.
20+ Goals in PL era:
5 seasons in a row - Thierry Henry..................(1/2-5/6)
4 seasons in a row - Alan Shearer...................(93/94-96/97)
3 seasons in a row - Ruud van Nistelrooy..........(1/2-3/4)
Only 5 players have managed to score 20+ goals in 3 seasons total in the PL era:
Alan Shearer (7 seasons)
Thierry Henry (5 seasons)
Ruud van Nistelrooy (4 seasons)
Les Ferdinand, Sergio Agüero (3 seasons)
It would be one hell of an accomplishment for him to do at the age of 23 and shows the caliber of striker he is.
20+ Goals in PL era:
5 seasons in a row - Thierry Henry..................(1/2-5/6)
4 seasons in a row - Alan Shearer...................(93/94-96/97)
3 seasons in a row - Ruud van Nistelrooy..........(1/2-3/4)
Only 5 players have managed to score 20+ goals in 3 seasons total in the PL era:
Alan Shearer (7 seasons)
Thierry Henry (5 seasons)
Ruud van Nistelrooy (4 seasons)
Les Ferdinand, Sergio Agüero (3 seasons)
It would be one hell of an accomplishment for him to do at the age of 23 and shows the caliber of striker he is.
Puts it into perspective perfectly.
It's a really impressive stat, seriously. I don't understand how people can't rate him (at the very least) as a very good striker.
The fact that as soon as the stats were posted all the critical posters stopped posting speaks volumes.
I think Kane ends up at Madrid to replace Benzema.
Maybe not this summer but the summer after.
Maybe not this summer but the summer after.
I think people have forgotten he was out for like 9 weeks which coincided to SPurs poor start. Now he is back and "poof" they are in a title race. I believe the same happened last season when he was off form
There is no doubt that we rely on him a lot - a LOT. Although, it also proves how difficult it is to replace a player like him, you just can't.
If you are rich you can. Also Zlatan would do it and he was free
When you say free you are ignoring his enormous wages of course and sign on fee. Both of which are out of reach of most clubs. But yes to replace somebody like Kane, you are talking about bringing in a proven top level goal scorer and there arent too many of them around. Even fewer that would be willing to play second fiddle to Kane.
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Its an impressive achievement and he's on the right track for being a PL legend but I hope we don't buy him. I think in some ways hes a bit like Defoe. Obviously FAR better but he is thriving in a team where he is the main goal outlet and the team is setup to play through him. I don't see him doing much else as he doesn't have much pace, a huge workmate, great skill or the ability to take a man on. He just knows where to be to finish a chance and he has a good shot, and we have never done well with that sort of player. We need to buy a striker who has more to his game than just knowing where the net is. Our best seasons have come when we have multi talented forwards.
I think he is another Berbatov.
I think he is another Berbatov.
Apart from RVN you mean? Or Ole Gunnar Solskjær?
Or Van Persie. Or Rooney. Most of our strikers the last 20 years were like Kane
Very good striker, would buy if possible.
Generates real power and venom with minimal backlift ; reminds me of a prime Torres who was a bloody nightmare.
Generates real power and venom with minimal backlift ; reminds me of a prime Torres who was a bloody nightmare.
Torres was much faster and a better player imo.
Yes, but Zlatan is a short-term fix, given his age, not a long-term solution. Whereas Kane only 23 ... 12 years younger than Zlatan.
Not as good of a goal scorer though - Torres only hit +20 league goals in a season once in his career.
Kane is great don't get me wrong, but Torres was world class. Kane isn't imo.
He is a world class goal scorer - like I said, better than Torres. You may prefer Torres as a player and that's grand but Kane is a much better goal scorer than Torres ever was already, at least in terms of numbers.
Kane takes the penalties, not sure about Torres with Stevie G. around.
Puts it a bit into perspective.