If only his voice was as good as his feet.
Harry Kane MBE | Performances
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Not a problem.
I still think he'll need to move eventually if he wants to win a Champions League title in his career though. I can't see your lot reaching that level inside the next 5 years.
You stay away from us, we don't want trophy hunting fans.
Maybe, but at least your posts use logic to come to those conclusions.
The only thing I would say though is if his aspirations are a a CL title then that means he would be moving abroad. There's no English team even close to getting to a CL final let alone winning it.
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Since the start of 2015, the list of Premier League goalscorers reads as follows:
Harry Kane – 54
Sergio Aguero – 47
Romelu Lukaku – 34
Diego Costa – 33
Jamie Vardy – 33
Alexis Sanchez – 33
Olivier Giroud – 32
Jermain Defoe – 31
7 ahead of Aguero, and 20 ahead of any other player.
So you're now saying Kane would start over Zlatan, or that we would pay £80m for a substitute?
We're lacking goals, yes, but not from the centre-forward position. We've also got a young striker to develop.
Anyway, we're going of course here, because it's not only United I was referring to. For the kind of money Kane would cost, there's no chance anyone goes for him until he proves himself outside the league, or becomes Saurez/Henry-esque within it.
Not bashing Spurs. If they become a PL-winning, CL-contending side, then fair play, and that way, they will keep the wolves from the door should this crop of players prove themselves at the highest level.
Also, if Kane becomes what some people believe he already is, then well done to him. Just because he's yet to prove himself on the grandest stages, it's not to say he won't in the future, but until he does, most of the talk about him not going here or there because he's loyal or whatever, is moot.
How many pens for Harry? Compared to the others?
Just out of interest, I think he's class fwiw.
I don't know where to find that info ... would be interesting to know though.
If we'd sign him in the summer, i think Kane would start most games. However i do not want us to spend 100m+ on Kane. I'd rather see us spend this money on Griezmann, and start him alongside Ibra/Rash
Brilliant, cheers.
I really doubt he would. Ibrahimovic is better than Kane at everything Kane can do plus he's able to play intricate football and cater to those around him. Plus he has a tonne of experience that we're in desperate need of.
Kane wouldn't be on United's radar until Ibrahimovic was close to being out the door, and even then, he's got a lot to do between now and then to be worth what Spurs/Levy would demand. For that kind of money, the best strikers on the planet become viable targets.
Apart from finishing, long shots, playmaking, vision, passing..then yes
Heh. I'd love for you to make a thread about this one. Personally, I think you're way off, but who knows...?
You're pretty deluded if you think Kane has better playmaking, vision and passing, nowhere close. Selfish striker.
In his first period he had a short form where he was insane, I loved it when he crucified Arsenal and I think Chelsea/City one time as well, other than that I get an impression of flat truck bully (mainly probably because of his poor performances against us).
Only one time against Arsenal and Chelsea?
Arsenal defenders seem genuinely terrified of him and with good reason.
I meant first season or breakthrough season, they beat Arsenal that match, he was deadly.
Ibrahimovic actually drifts into midfield quite a lot to do playmaking. I just checked and he averages 37 passes every 90 mins and Kane only 20.
Kane has superb playmaking skills, he mostly doesn't play in the position to do it, and since Alli is "here" there is really no need. Before, he had quite brilliant moments from a number 10 position, playing killer passes in all sorts (short, long, lob, outside foot). You should have seen those games, or at least analysis, then you'd know better. He could easily play as number 10.
Kane could conceivably hit 20+ goals for another 6/7 seasons at least the way he's going and the type of player he is (hard-working, fit, doesn't rely on physical advantages) - would be well worth £75m to any side.
Concerning your other nonsense points - he's played 3 CL games in his life and scored 2 goals in a Spurs team failing in that particular competition, and we're talking about an England side who lost to f*cking Iceland FFS.
For the money he would cost, that would be a bare minimum requirement.
Was Harry Kane not a chief contributor in England being so woeful? Playing so few CL games works against him as there's going to be doubts he can do it that level, especially off the back of his Euros.
By your tone, you seem to think Kane would be no more sought after now than if he lit up an international tournament or the CL. When is that ever the case?
Still this nonsense.
John Stones with no CL experience and hardly any international experience went for£50m and CB's cost nowhere near as much as prolific goal scorers.
A CB is nothing like a lead-the-line-forward who is expected to deliver for an elite team. Forwards go for the most money for a reason.
Exactly, and Stones went for £50m.
Or are you saying a CB is more valuable than a forward who already had 62 PL goals in just 100 games?
If you are then you've totally list your mind.
I thought he was crap at at the start of the season but fair play, he's looking like he did last year now.
He has this weird thing that he seems to start slow and then really turn it on as the season progresses.
Which is kid of crazy, as he's only 1 goal behind the scoring lead and he missed two months with injury. If he gets better from here it would be pretty incredible.
I personally think Ibra is a better player, not much in it, but I really rate Ibra extremely highly, and I would have loved the opportunity to have Ibra at Spurs for two seasons (little jealous). However, considering age, and how Kane fits into our system / club there's not another striker in the PL I would have ahead of him right now. And as long as Spurs continue to challenge for the title / grow as a team I think he will stay. If, however, we stagnate and end up not challenging for anything, and without prospects to change that I think he will go. His career with us fully depends on how the transition into the new stadium goes for us I feel, and if all goes well he may very well break Shearers record at Spurs.
£50m, or thereabouts, has sadly become the going rate for prodigious youngsters, be it rising to, or outright, that number was reached a few times last summer (or two: Sterling, Martial), as I outlined in a previous post.
I'd be repeating myself to go on about the other part of your post. I'm Going to stop now because your hopping on hot coals doing your best to duck and dive where you wouldn't if my point didn't stand.
Clubs buy players to play in the competitions they compete in, not to play international football which is largely played at a different tempo and in a different style without the continuity of familiarity with all of your teammates and coaches.
Clubs buy players based on what they believe they will be able to deliver for them, if they are worth the money in terms of fee and wages to them, and or if they consider them to be an investment in a number of forns.
Clubs only being interested in paying big fees for players if they've performed well in international tournaments and or the Champions League is garbage.
It's like my posts never existed. I'll leave you to it.
I think his point is rather that the 50 million for a prodigious Everton 'youngster' who is only one year younger than Kane, might see Kane collect a rather more sizable fee than 50 million if and when he does decide to move on, considering one is a prodigious defender who is struggling to defend and the other is a prodigious striker who looks like he's about to score 20+ league goals three seasons in a row.
Exactly and that fee is not going to change if he hasn't yet performed well at an international tournament or doesn't a long history in the CL.
Started the season slow but to be fair to him, he looked knackered. He's been brilliant lately and he's a player that I really rate.
He did and I think he was, it is noticeable how much sharper he has looked after his injury lay off. Two consecutive Summer tournaments and 24 months of continuous football had taken their toll I think. In some ways the injury has done him a favour, since he's returned he's scored 12 in 13.
I got that, but the burden on a striker at an elite club requires their CV to be stacked, or for them to be insanely talented - anything that reduces risk. At £80m+, Harry Kane will have to do more than he has before he's genuinely being sought after by the best clubs in the world.
I suppose the question that can then be asked is if the going rate at £50m odd (for a prodigious youngster) and the £30m difference for a player who has three 20+ seasons in a row is negligible. Football may be bonkers, but I don't think it's gotten to the point where what Kane has done would warrant that kind of fee. £80m gets you proven internationals with CL credentials and high-scoring league consistency.
OK like you said, I think we'll have to agree to disagree and move on. This clearly isn't getting anywhere and nobody is changing their opinion.
Anybody saying he isn't proven is deluded. He's scored 20+ goals in the EPL for the third season running. There is no reason to suggest he wouldn't be as prolific in the CL.
Agreed, proven in the premier league, there is no reason to suggest he WOULD be prolific in the CL. Just like we've seen him hit 20 goals for multiple seasons we've also seen him be underwhelming in Europe, right? I think he's class, but if you're using evidence as the basis to your argument for why he is prolific, you need to also do that for Europe since yes it's different, Barcelonas, Madrids, Sevillas win Europe, Tottenhams do not. English teams quite obviously aren't doing well in Europe for some years now, it's down to the players, managers, coaches and teams, the top of our leagur isn't that strong in terms of Europe, that includes the Spurs and 'prolific CL Harry Kane'.