Yeah I could see that Suarez out wide, Carroll up top and then a Downing/new winger on the other side and Gerrard/Sig in attacking mid.
Gylfi Sigurdsson
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Yeah I could see that Suarez out wide, Carroll up top and then a Downing/new winger on the other side and Gerrard/Sig in attacking mid.
If Rodgers goes after Gylfi that is an seriously shite move on his part in my opinion. Signing the number one transfer target of the club you left less than a month ago is just awfully unprofessional.
I don't think so. He's not the number 1 transfer target for the club. He's number one for Rodgers. If Rodgers wasn't the key Gylfi would have already signed by now.
Their Chairman is on record saying that they want Gylfi and are hoping that he signs after his vacation. I do agree that Gylfi will most probably want to rethink the whole thing after Rodgers left but I still feel that going after him is a somewhat of dick move (although I can't blame him).
But hey, Liverpool or Swansea? Not really a difficult decision for Gylfi... Liverpool is where he'll most likely end up at.
I thought Sigurdsson had already signed for Swansea? I guess not then.
Icelandic papers say its down to 3 teams, Man utd, liverpool and tottenham !
Decisions will be made today !
Decisions will be made today !
Everyone knows he's going to Liverpool. The link to United is just so they can do the "snubs United in favour of move to Livepool" story the scousers love.
Yep. As soon as Rodgers went Scouse, Gilfy was heading down to Liverpool soon after.
Feel a bit sorry for Swansea fans, Sigurdsson was one of their best players last season. And he probably would have signed for them if they held onto Rodgers.
There is no United link from what I can see. There would be no point in signing him and Kawaga as far as I can see.
Dont be so sure, papers here in Iceland say to day that he is probably not going to liverpool after all!
and we don´t have many papers, not many shite papers !
and we don´t have many papers, not many shite papers !
Markus Babbel just said himself that the only offer they've received is from Swansea. He said that Gylfi only wants to play in the PL and that if any club bids the amount they want they'll accept and the rest is up to Gylfi to decide.
Laudrup wants him as the bid is still in place.
Laudrup wants him as the bid is still in place.
I have nothing against Sigurdsson - a good footballer, but let's be honest, he's not on the level of technical ability that United should be looking to invest in.
Not sure what you mean by technical ability. I agree that he doesn't fit the team. Not in the way we usually play.
I think the 1 thing that cannot be questioned is his technique
Hitting shots and freekicks the way he does is full of good technique, perhaps you mean something else?Anyway, who knows how he would do if he joined us, could rise to the occasion or flop under the pressure.
Depending on the cost, i think he would be worth a punt. He is apparently very proffesional so i can see fergie taking a liking to him.
Dont think we are in for him.. We didnt bid when he was going to Swansea.
Spurs dont have a manager.
Its clearly bs.
Spurs dont have a manager.
Its clearly bs.
So long as it isn't us I am all for it.
According to Bild,he's signed for Spurs.
To the Modric thread!!!
That's a replacement for Van Der Vaart I think.
Not necessarily - he might be intended as squad competition/cover/rotation for VdV's role behind the striker. And VdV is sometimes deployed in right midfield anyhow.
That's if the reported signing is true of course.
I've said before that I wouldn't mind us taking him on, but I'd be happy with this given the alternative seems him going to Liverpool - and I REALLY don't want that.
The VdV position would be the obvious role for him, but he's young enough to be developed deeper I think - certainly not out of the question.
Good signing for Spurs if true.
Who signed him though? Surely Spurs aren't signing players without a manager in place, a la the rentboys?
Who signed him though? Surely Spurs aren't signing players without a manager in place, a la the rentboys?
I think AVB is in place, just not yet announced officially due to contract-severance clauses with Chelski ... could be wrong though.
So Blanc has no chance then? Either would do well I think, AVB is better than the Chelski cnuts let him be. That was a shit move for a bright young manager to make. Spurs would be a good one.
AVB's a joke, with absolutely zero man management skills. You'd be better going for Blanc out of the two, or Moyes.
Who knows ... but I guessed a while back that AVB would be the one, so I'll stick with that.
Because he couldn't man manage John Terry and the charge of the cnut brigade?
spurs to steal ziggy infront of liverpools face !
poor poor liverpool!
poor poor liverpool!
There's more players at Chelsea than just Terry.
Coming into a new team and making established players like Anelka and Alex train with the reserves is just an awful way to start a relationship with the dressing room. Never mind the fact that both players, but especially Alex, still had something to offer the club and were better options than what he had ultimately had to resort to. Luiz went through a terrible patch of form and Alex would have been a clear upgrade until he adjusted to the league, but AVB had tarnished that possibility.
That's obviously just an example, there is plenty other things he did, playing Mata wide, playing a high line and playing an anchor man etc.
I think he's a good young manager and I wouldn't take his time at Chelsea into account. That's a shitpot club to try and manage. He'll do well at Spurs if he goes there.
I was eating launch today with people who have connectiin to this sort of news regarding Icelandic players and they just said what we already know, that we will know by the end of the week where he'll sign. Everyone know that he talked to several English clubs and Bild don't havent qoutes so it's probably just pure speculation. Why offer a bigger sum than what has already been accepted?
That's just like saying Brian Clough had no man management skills after his disaster at Leeds; he deserved a reprieve because of what he did at Derby, and so does AVB after what he did at Porto. Villas-Boas was insanely successful dealing with the likes of Falcao and Hulk, both getting itchy for moves abroad, so just because he had trouble with Big Man and his cronies doesn't mean he can't succeed in another high profile job.
Comparing AVB and Clough is absurd, before he went to Leeds he was already experienced and had completely turned Derby around in his five or so years there, won the league from Division two and almost got to the final of the European Cup. AVB has one seasons experience at a top side, then went to Chelsea and was a fecking disaster.
The two situations aren't the same as Clough had earned a reprieve far more than AVB has. He's had one good year at a top side and one shit one, whereas Clough had 6 or 7 great years in management before the Leeds debacle. Besides them both isolating the dressing room I don't see the comparison.
His failings at Chelsea were a lot more than having 'trouble with Big Man' anyway. The constant focus on that particular failing is misrepresentative of his time in charge, as he made far more important mistakes than falling out with Terry, which we aren't even certain happened to any significant extent anyway.
From top to bottom he made mistakes. I understand that Terry's a bellend and we are all supposed to hate him etc etc, but passing off AVB's disastrous spell in charge as if it was all Terry's fault for being oh so hard to manage is just ridiculous.
The two situations aren't the same as Clough had earned a reprieve far more than AVB has. He's had one good year at a top side and one shit one, whereas Clough had 6 or 7 great years in management before the Leeds debacle. Besides them both isolating the dressing room I don't see the comparison.
His failings at Chelsea were a lot more than having 'trouble with Big Man' anyway. The constant focus on that particular failing is misrepresentative of his time in charge, as he made far more important mistakes than falling out with Terry, which we aren't even certain happened to any significant extent anyway.
From top to bottom he made mistakes. I understand that Terry's a bellend and we are all supposed to hate him etc etc, but passing off AVB's disastrous spell in charge as if it was all Terry's fault for being oh so hard to manage is just ridiculous.
The comparison was that good managers can have awful spells at clubs before they establish themselves again - you forget that Clough had a pretty crap spell at Brighton just before Leeds, too. Regardless of how much experience Clough had, his stock was at an all time low. If the internet had existed back then, no doubt such adages like "only good at one club" or "overrated, out of his depth at a big club like Leeds" would have been spewed.
I like to give managers the benefit of the doubt, especially when AVB had an absolutely spectacular season at Porto, reaching some heights that even Mourinho hadn't been able to mirror. His next job will be pivotal, but his experience at Chelsea could be what makes him stronger. I think branding him as a "joke" is ridiculously premature.
Avb never fell out with Terry ffs.
He just was a numpty imo, a very big one too at that.
Only one manager who I truly dislike.
He just was a numpty imo, a very big one too at that.
Only one manager who I truly dislike.
He was a joke based on his time at Chelsea.
It's laughable you accuse me of being premature when you're comparing him to Clough and Mourinho after one good season at Porto. As I said before, he's had two seasons at big clubs, one was very successful, the other was an absolute disaster. It's hardly the gleaming managerial career you're acting like it is, and the way you try and shift the blame for his spell at Chelsea onto Terry is just ridiculous.
Shows how far Liverpool have gone, when a player is more likely to join Tottenham than them.
But i thought he came to Swansea because of Brendan Rodgers , and would follow him anywhere ,guess going to the dippers was a bridge to far.
Yes he did. He was a young manager with a very short but exceptional record, trying to build for the future and stop Chelsea's reliance on older players to help them in the long run. These older players and their huge egos didn't like it one bit and essentially forced him out of the club after a run of poor results. I'm not saying he didn't deserve the sack after thoseresults but I am saying he deserved a better crack of the whip given what he was clearly trying to achieve.
I almost feel that the lack of playing time for these lads made them fresher towards the end of the season and helped Chelsea in their ridiculous run in the cups. There was clearly a huge slice of luck on the way but one of the defining features of Di Matteo's play was the faith in the older lads and their experience at the highest level. I'll probably get some stick for saying this but I genuinely believe Cole, Terry, Lampard and Drogba are amongst the top players in Premier league history and clearly have immense quality, but their egos have been so pumped up that they can effectively make decisions on the club's future.
Di Matteo has been supeb since taking charge but eventually he needs a complete rehaul of playing staff, something that Villas Boas tried to do, under immense pressure, and eventually lost his job as a result. It's not as simple as splashing out on 5 or 6 superstars, they need to be phased in just as the older lads need to be gradually phased out as their influence wanes. I feel sympathy rather than resentment for AVB, and I'd bet that over the next few years other Chelsea managers, probably a few of them, will have similar problems.
He has done worse in the league than AVB did.