you say that... but the gun lobbys next step would be compulsory open carry by all citizens - then where are you going to run?
Id suggest Canada as there might be a big wall down south
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Id suggest Canada as there might be a big wall down south
Man shot and killed 2 people then shot himself, 11 people injured .... in Austria
The only European country, bar Switzerland, where you are allowed to own a firearm for self defence and where anyone can purchase hunting rifles or shotguns from the age of 18 with minimum background checks or need to immediately register the weapon, plus we're talking about a biker rock concert in the woods.
What's your point? Most of us would agree that Austria should bring in stricter gun controls in line with the rest of Europe but their firearm homicides are still under 1/30th of those in the US.
He has none, look at his posts in here, they are all inflammatory , often ignored but if not they are stupid and have no point, and more often just cause an argument. If that doesn't show you, look at his posts in the US Election thread, I reckon 90% or more are completely ignored. It leads me to believe most have him on ignore because he's such a WUM, or people just ignore his posts because they cant be arsed to reply or get in to an argument with him.
Orlando nightclub shooting: gunman opens fire in attack on Pulse LGBT club
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/12/orlando-shooting-nightclub-pulse-gunman?CMP=fb_gu
Yet another mass shooting in the US. It happened once in France and people were rightly shocked, angered and determined to never let it happen again.
It happens every week in the US, yet nothing is done or will be done.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/12/orlando-shooting-nightclub-pulse-gunman?CMP=fb_gu
Yet another mass shooting in the US. It happened once in France and people were rightly shocked, angered and determined to never let it happen again.
It happens every week in the US, yet nothing is done or will be done.
Supposedly it is still ongoing and there are hostages.
Clinton saying that anyone on a terror watchlist shouldn't be able to buy weapons. No fecking shit.
You say that but legislation to enable that was blocked by the GOP.
What's wrong with these people? It's actually like a mental health issue on a mega scale at this point.
Follow the money. The GOP is in the NRA's pocket.
Is there much money in stopping terror suspects buying weapons? Or are they scared of it leading on to more control?
The NRA is controlling the message and their message is just that.
David Petraeus and Mark Kelly are launching a gun control group... "Veterans Coalition for Common Sense"
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/10/politics/david-petraeus-mark-kelly-gun-control/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/10/politics/david-petraeus-mark-kelly-gun-control/index.html
Can anyone confirm this is true?
Can anyone confirm this is true?
No it's nonsense, the FBI definition of mass shooting is "four or more people dying not including the shooter" only the nightclub shooting in America this week fits that description. The US has around 10 of those shootings per year, the UK to the best of my knowledge has had 3 in the last hundred years. The tweet says "shooting massacres" which can mean a lot of things, if for example Christina Grimmie's murder is included, the UK has had a lot more than seven ''shooting massacres' since 1849.
The trouble with these lists are that they can be arbitrary. I think Senator Ted Kennedy was on the no-fly list.
You can't just deny constitutional rights to people willy-nilly.
They will be ignored by the gun lobby and shooter crowd just like everybody else is.
I would like to know what their stances are.
I think they're based purely on name and nothing else which means that with thorough-enough investigation into all the Baracks of the world, Obama would be denied too.
Man shoulda been on a do not drive list, much less one for flying.
TN state rep to give away AR-15s at fundraiser
http://www.wsmv.com/story/32212030/tn-state-rep-to-give-away-assault-style-rifles-at-fundraiser
I have no words
http://www.wsmv.com/story/32212030/tn-state-rep-to-give-away-assault-style-rifles-at-fundraiser
I have no words
Tired of this 2nd amendment bullshite. Nobody is proposing to prohibit the sale of firearms. But you have to have a bloody good reason to want one. A thorough background check is the least you can expect.
The US seems to be in great company with other nations having such widespread gun ownership among the population: Iraq, Lybia, Afghanistan, Somalia.
The US seems to be in great company with other nations having such widespread gun ownership among the population: Iraq, Lybia, Afghanistan, Somalia.
Can anyone confirm this is true?
Apparently there was at least one man shooting and taking hostages in a Walmart just this morning.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/amarillo-police-respond-armed-person-inside-walmart-39848930
Apparently a Somalian Muslim but motivated by a workplace incident. Looks like it was just him that died, so not a massacre. Just another day in the USA I guess.
@Adisa this is why some Americans have a hard time stomaching the idea of increased gun control. Current laws aren't even being enforced.
If you can't enforce current laws, how can you convince people that more stringent ones will actually be enforced?
If you can't enforce current laws, how can you convince people that more stringent ones will actually be enforced?
Why on earth would anyone want to live in any society where you feel you need a gun for your own safety?
Wait, you got to choose where you were born?!
Are you trying to claim that you don't get to choose where you live?
I think it was pretty clear what I claimed... you don't choose what society you are born into. Questions like "why would you choose to live in a society...." seems to blindly assume that everyone has unlimited mobility to just uproot and go wherever they want.
I wasnt born where I live.
Do you have the ability to move?
Good for you. I was.
Moving as in leaving the country at this moment? I do not. Was born to a working class family. Have only recently fought and scraped into the "lower middle class" according to our government.
As I said, asking questions like "why do people choose to live in a society..." assumes that they have the ability to choose what country they live in at all. I would say for the vast majority of the world's population, that would be a stretch.
More Americans killed by guns since 1968 than in all U.S. wars
http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...mericans-killed-guns-1968-all-wars-says-colu/
Mental.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...mericans-killed-guns-1968-all-wars-says-colu/
Mental.
Bollocks. If your life is that much at risk then the expense of moving is the last thing on your mind.
Just do it! I moved back to my mother´s country 30 years ago and have zero regrets. Every time I visit, I like it less. Just the entitlement and the waste and materialism and Republicans drive me crazy.
You don't need to leave the country. I've been to plenty of places in the US where I've felt very safe and would have felt safe to live there. I have lots of family and friends in the US who would never dream of owning a gun and feel plenty safe.
I love when people make financial judgments about other people's lives that they know nothing about. What other psychic powers do you have?
There's a few places I'd love to move to. At the place my wife and I are in my lives though, it is about impossible.
I took his comment on "society" to be referring to American society, hence my reference to the country.