General Election 2024

Who got your vote?

  • Labour

    Votes: 147 54.2%
  • Conservative

    Votes: 5 1.8%
  • Lib Dem

    Votes: 25 9.2%
  • Green

    Votes: 48 17.7%
  • Reform

    Votes: 11 4.1%
  • SNP

    Votes: 5 1.8%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Independent

    Votes: 8 3.0%
  • UK resident but not voting

    Votes: 18 6.6%
  • Spoiled my ballot

    Votes: 3 1.1%

  • Total voters
    271
  • Poll closed .
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Think how the USA feels.

Seriously though, you are absolutely right.

As for Farage. The man is a fecking moron. He recently gave a paid speech at Brixham Conservative Club. About 40 people attended. However, Brixham is the largest fishing port in England. He refused to answer questions from fishermen and refused to acknowledge that Brexit has fecked the farming and fishing industry. Despite him campaigning for Brexit on the fact Brexit would be a huge positive to both.

Fishing is a complex issue and anyone who understood this knew it wasn't Brexit that was the answer and it wasn't EU laws or regulations that was the problem. Nigel though, was so convincing the majority went with him. Now they just feel conned. He knows this, hence why he avoided speaking to anyone who didn't pay £50 to hear him speak.

He's just a fecking chancer. UKIP, Brexit, EU MP, now reform... It's all the same grift just with a different tagline. How people still don't see this is beyond me.

This should have been obvious to anyone with a brain for over 20 years but he's still there being pandered to by the media, other political parties and ignorant voters.
 


I don't know about anyone else, but I certainly did not have "tories active hate of servicemen because WWII memorials are European" on my bingo card.

Even the stupidest nationalists used to know you don't campaign on hating soldiers. :lol:
 
New CCTV cameras have been installed in locations with the highest footfall in Kettering.

Here is the view from one of the cameras at 9.40am on a Thursday morning.

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Can't move.
 
New CCTV cameras have been installed in locations with the highest footfall in Kettering.

Here is the view from one of the cameras at 9.40am on a Thursday morning.

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Can't move.

We can all take the piss out of people like this when they're purposefully made to look like an idiot on a social media video on an empty high street but when they're trying to get a council house or a doctors appointment, it's easy to understand how they end up thinking that this island is overcrowded and that the main issue is immigration.

These demographics are deliberately targeted to spread this message to them - keeps the anger away from the real problems in this country.
 
We can all take the piss out of people like this when they're purposefully made to look like an idiot on a social media video on an empty high street but when they're trying to get a council house or a doctors appointment, it's easy to understand how they end up thinking that this island is overcrowded and that the main issue is immigration.

These demographics are deliberately targeted to spread this message to them - keeps the anger away from the real problems in this country.

They've been brainwashed into thinking so, yes to divert the attention away from how useless the government(s) have been. He's not forced into saying what he did though. The Uk are not even in the top 50 densely populated countries in the world and neither is China for that matter.
 
They've been brainwashed into thinking so, yes to divert the attention away from how useless the government(s) have been. He's not forced into saying what he did though. The Uk are not even in the top 50 densely populated countries in the world and neither is China for that matter.

Fully agree, I guess I just am getting tired of these videos where some cocky journalist or youtuber goes to an (often deprived) area just to go 'omg look at these IDIOTS'. I'm not sure what it contributes, apart from to allow people like me to laugh at them and feel superior.
 
Fully agree, I guess I just am getting tired of these videos where some cocky journalist or youtuber goes to an (often deprived) area just to go 'omg look at these IDIOTS'. I'm not sure what it contributes, apart from to allow people like me to laugh at them and feel superior.

I see it is more of a pushing back against the nonsense spread by the media and politicians. If nobody calls out the lies then people like Farage get away with saying whatever they like without fear of retribution. When you have the Tories, Labour and Reform, all three parties calling asylum seekers for example illegal immigrants and the cause of all the problems it's a serious problem. The media does nothing to challenge them. Someone has to.
 

That's market square in kettering..another conservative council folly. Restaurants keep opening there and going bust. Behind them is an old hotel, that was advertising rooms for a tenner a night before being repurposed for migrants.(for a heck of a lot more)..later they were all moved out and the owners (who were at one point evicted by the actual owners themselves, as they apparently were only leaseholders) then retook the hotel and spent a fortune refurbishing it, with the funds coming from the govt contract.
 
They've been brainwashed into thinking so, yes to divert the attention away from how useless the government(s) have been. He's not forced into saying what he did though. The Uk are not even in the top 50 densely populated countries in the world and neither is China for that matter.

He's a moron, but if you look at just England then it certainly has a high population density. Roughly the same as India, and higher than the Netherlands. A lot of the higher ones are micronations or otherwise not fit for comparison.

It's also a bit misleading to say that the UK is not in the top 50, since 15+ of the ones above it on the list aren't actually independent countries.
 
He's a moron, but if you look at just England then it certainly has a high population density. Roughly the same as India, and higher than the Netherlands. A lot of the higher ones are micronations or otherwise not fit for comparison.

It's also a bit misleading to say that the UK is not in the top 50, since 15+ of the ones above it on the list aren't actually independent countries.

The Uk is 720 /sq mile. NL is 1100, Belgium is 990, India is 1130, Japan and Philippines are higher and many other large countries;
It doesn't matter if they are tiny or large countries, people are living there. Services or facilities should be provided according to the population. A densely populated area like London will not have the same population density as a small market town like Kettering. Or a highly densely City State like Singapore. The UK is just so badly run.
 
Always hesitant to post video of someone I agree with as there are bound to be things they have said that I disagree with but with that caveat in place this is about the most sane politician I have heard and I hope Labour have tonnes of people like this even if they are parachuted in.



It answers the point on why vote Labour even if they are not promising that much, quite well.
 
The Uk is 720 /sq mile. NL is 1100, Belgium is 990, India is 1130, Japan and Philippines are higher and many other large countries;
It doesn't matter if they are tiny or large countries, people are living there. Services or facilities should be provided according to the population. A densely populated area like London will not have the same population density as a small market town like Kettering. Or a highly densely City State like Singapore. The UK is just so badly run.

Arguing about it would just pull the thread off topic, so let's just agree on the last part.
 
Fully agree, I guess I just am getting tired of these videos where some cocky journalist or youtuber goes to an (often deprived) area just to go 'omg look at these IDIOTS'. I'm not sure what it contributes, apart from to allow people like me to laugh at them and feel superior.
It tells us that we should all root for a planet killing asteroid to hit us.
 
Mentioning cuts to diversity training as the first point in a £50 billion savings plan is taking absurdity to a whole other level. Some people will eat it up though.
Then saying he'll cut the tax take by raising the IHT threshold to £2m. I think Paul Johnson will have a field day with all these prospectuses as usual.
 
Always hesitant to post video of someone I agree with as there are bound to be things they have said that I disagree with but with that caveat in place this is about the most sane politician I have heard and I hope Labour have tonnes of people like this even if they are parachuted in.



It answers the point on why vote Labour even if they are not promising that much, quite well.

Torsten Bell has been excellent for ages. I hope he is allowed his own voice once elected.
 
He doesn’t have a fecking clue.


No, no, you aren't understanding him. We'll bring in more money to pay for these things by decreasing the amount of tax people pay - because that'll bring in more tax. And we'll save more money as a collective by making people pay less inheritance tax, which in turn will mean more efficiencies in collecting the bags of money in the local town square. Because we're bringing back not just the medieval way of handling taxes, but the medieval way of life! Less tax to collect means less donkeys to carry it, and also means less money spent on plague treatments, which means less working people who are still alive, which means even less tax, and less donkeys, and ultimately no foreigns.

Standard economics, when you really think about it.
 
Prediction Time

What are going to be the big shocks with the respective manifestos?

Tories - scrapping air for the under 21s.

Labour - freezing public sector funding for two years but replacing it with more frying pan rattling on our doorsteps to appease the unions who now hate them.

Whatever the feck Farage's thing is called - total ban of benefits for non white people or anyone with a weird sounding name like Pablo or Dave.

Lib Dems - more water slides for the bantz.

Greens - something reasonable that will be ignored by everyone in the media because, lads, it's Tottenham the Green Party.

SNP - a promise to outsource any public sector decisions to someone that isn't consistently fecking useless at it.
 
To be honest, I find these 'gotcha' videos of individual people a little pointless, especially when people then try to dispute the underlying fact of what they're saying (even if disagree with the conclusion they've come to).

England is one of the most densely populated countries in Europe. In fact, if we remove the micro states, the only countries that have a higher density are Malta (essentially a microstate anyway) and the Netherlands (though in another list I found, England is above the Netherlands too).

Worldwide? Again ignoring microstates and dependencies of other countries (including the UK) or territories that aren't recognised as countries ( such as Taiwan or Palestine), the countries with higher densities seem to be Singapore,Bahrain, Bangladesh, Mauritius, South Korea, Rwanda, Burundi.

So England in particular (where he's talking from) is a very crowded country. No point in laughing and pretending otherwise because Andorra and San Marino are more so.

This of course does not in any way justify racism, bigotry or the complete incompetence with regards to the running of the country or providing of basic services.
 
There must be something genuinely horrid in the pipeline towards the end of this year that the tories are desperate not to stick around for. That's the only way any of this is making sense to me.
 
There must be something genuinely horrid in the pipeline towards the end of this year that the tories are desperate not to stick around for. That's the only way any of this is making sense to me.

They are just inept. If it wasn't for "Get Brexit Done", they'd have had an equally disastrous campaign in 2019. Apart from that one-off, the only thing they've campaigned on since Thatcher is that Labour might do even worse than them at managing the economy.
 
To be honest, I find these 'gotcha' videos of individual people a little pointless, especially when people then try to dispute the underlying fact of what they're saying (even if disagree with the conclusion they've come to).

England is one of the most densely populated countries in Europe. In fact, if we remove the micro states, the only countries that have a higher density are Malta (essentially a microstate anyway) and the Netherlands (though in another list I found, England is above the Netherlands too).

Worldwide? Again ignoring microstates and dependencies of other countries (including the UK) or territories that aren't recognised as countries ( such as Taiwan or Palestine), the countries with higher densities seem to be Singapore,Bahrain, Bangladesh, Mauritius, South Korea, Rwanda, Burundi.

So England in particular (where he's talking from) is a very crowded country. No point in laughing and pretending otherwise because Andorra and San Marino are more so.

This of course does not in any way justify racism, bigotry or the complete incompetence with regards to the running of the country or providing of basic services.

Now that view is all well and good (even with the arbitrary caveats to boost the UK’s position), but that is what continual growth looks like!

If you want an economy to continually grow in this financial system then you’ve got two options; make the workers you have do more, or get more workers.
 
Worldwide? Again ignoring microstates and dependencies of other countries (including the UK) or territories that aren't recognised as countries ( such as Taiwan or Palestine), the countries with higher densities seem to be Singapore,Bahrain, Bangladesh, Mauritius, South Korea, Rwanda, Burundi.
While the UK ranks somewhat high if you remove micro states and the like, there’s levels to the density that you’re ignoring…

Bangladesh: 1342 people / km^2
Rwanda: 584 people / km^2
South Korea: 530 people / km^2
Netherlands: 525 people / km^2
Lebanon: 510 people / km^2
India: 485 people / km^2
Haiti: 431 people / km^2
Israel: 430 people / km^2
Philippines: 399 people / km^2
Belgium: 387 people / km^2
Japan: 336 people / km^2
Pakistan: 318 people / km^2
Vietnam: 317 people / km^2
El Salvador: 309 people / km^2
United Kingdom: 281 people / km^2
 
Now that view is all well and good (even with the arbitrary caveats to boost the UK’s position), but that is what continual growth looks like!

If you want an economy to continually grow in this financial system then you’ve got two options; make the workers you have do more, or get more workers.

And it's the former that has stagnated for two decades whilst the latter has been attempted and attempted to the absolute detriment of almost everybody.
 
While the UK ranks somewhat high if you remove micro states and the like, there’s levels to the density that you’re ignoring…

Bangladesh: 1342 people / km^2
Rwanda: 584 people / km^2
South Korea: 530 people / km^2
Netherlands: 525 people / km^2
Lebanon: 510 people / km^2
India: 485 people / km^2
Haiti: 431 people / km^2
Israel: 430 people / km^2
Philippines: 399 people / km^2
Belgium: 387 people / km^2
Japan: 336 people / km^2
Pakistan: 318 people / km^2
Vietnam: 317 people / km^2
El Salvador: 309 people / km^2
United Kingdom: 281 people / km^2

He explicitly said England.
 
While the UK ranks somewhat high if you remove micro states and the like, there’s levels to the density that you’re ignoring…

Bangladesh: 1342 people / km^2
Rwanda: 584 people / km^2
South Korea: 530 people / km^2
Netherlands: 525 people / km^2
Lebanon: 510 people / km^2
India: 485 people / km^2
Haiti: 431 people / km^2
Israel: 430 people / km^2
Philippines: 399 people / km^2
Belgium: 387 people / km^2
Japan: 336 people / km^2
Pakistan: 318 people / km^2
Vietnam: 317 people / km^2
El Salvador: 309 people / km^2
United Kingdom: 281 people / km^2

England: 438 people/km^2
Wales: 151 people/km^2
Northern Ireland: 141 people/Km^2
Scotland: 70 people/Km^2
 
And it's the former that has stagnated for two decades whilst the latter has been attempted and attempted to the absolute detriment of almost everybody.

And where do you have evidence for that?

The Economic Policy Institute reports an increase in hourly productivity (not UK-specific unfortunately) of 65% between 1979 and 2022.

So people are producing more.

Companies are taking in massive profits as it is, and my first point is reaching the ‘critical mass’ where it’s causing illness and (somewhat) push-back.

So we then come back to ‘we can’t squeeze more out of the workers we have, we need more workers’
 
He explicitly said England.
England: 438 people/km^2
Wales: 151 people/km^2
Northern Ireland: 141 people/Km^2
Scotland: 70 people/Km^2
Oh apologies folks, I saw the UK in the part of the post I was quoting + the centuries long tradition of “England” being used as a euphemism for the UK in general + the knowledge that Parliament’s decisions on major issues generally cover the whole of the UK and just totally cocked it up, didn’t I?
 
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