General Election 2024

Who got your vote?

  • Labour

    Votes: 147 54.2%

  • Conservative

    Votes: 5 1.8%

  • Lib Dem

    Votes: 25 9.2%

  • Green

    Votes: 48 17.7%

  • Reform

    Votes: 11 4.1%

  • SNP

    Votes: 5 1.8%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Independent

    Votes: 8 3.0%

  • UK resident but not voting

    Votes: 18 6.6%

  • Spoiled my ballot

    Votes: 3 1.1%
  • Total voters
    271
  • Poll closed .
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Rishi Sunnacchio.

Paid me to sit on my arse and do nothing. Heading up potentially the worst general election campaign ever (surely someone on his team is sabotaging him?). Going to get obliterated in an election like never before.

I actually think he's the greatest Tory that ever did live.
 
WPMUFC said:
Can these tories please just go away.

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At this point, they deserve political obliteration. Both 20mph and LTNs have been a hot-topic in my local community, and by god, spending 5 minutes with the people who are against them will make you wonder if the whole thing is a social experiment.
 
Jericholyte2 said:
I’d agree to a point, but their lives are worse off because of Farage. Brexit hashad a bigger economic impact than Covid, leading to higher food prices, higher energy prices, greater energy insecurity, water treatment shortages etc.

The difference is that, mostly through the sink cost fallacy, they can’t be convinced that it’s Brexit and the likes of Farage who brought this about. They still believe there’s a viable Brexit out there and that they’llget everything they want with it.

It’s the equivalent of the snake-oil merchant coming back going, “No no no! The only reason my tonic didn’t work is because you only took one dose! You need to take a dose every week for the rest of your life to keep it working” and the villagers lap it up and hand over their money and dignity.
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Yes I would agree with that, but think Brexiteers can still blame it on other factors, and for communities already downtrodden the differences for them are too subtle or the cause too ambiguous. Especially if they have lost faith in the other parties.

The irony for me is I think the Brexit vote really was a protest vote, but most Brexit voters weren't against the European Union, collective trade, European people living and working here. The Anti-EU movement was previously a small, fringe movement for the sort of right winger with separatist/libertarian ideology. Prior to the Brexit vote, they benefited from broader anti-immigration sentiment, islamophobia and general racism. Most people who voted Brexit weren't really bothered about the EU, they were against people of colour, Islam and refugees, and voted Brexit as a feck you to the establishment. They cut off their nose to spite their face.

So if Brexit hasn't fixed their problems, it's time to progress to stage 2. Going back to the snake oil metaphor, I think its similiar to a sales funnel. "You've bought the intermediate package, your results still aren't great. Of course, this is because you need the advanced course to address the REAL problem".
 
Ultimate Grib said:
Its bollocks. Its only to get some anti-ULEZ support in London where they're heading for oblivion.
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I was in central London last week and was quite surprised how many electric cars there were on the roads. And a number of buses were showing that they were hydrogen powered.
 
Trequarista10 said:
Yes I would agree with that, but think Brexiteers can still blame it on other factors, and for communities already downtrodden the differences for them are too subtle or the cause too ambiguous. Especially if they have lost faith in the other parties.

The irony for me is I think the Brexit vote really was a protest vote, but most Brexit voters weren't against the European Union, collective trade, European people living and working here. The Anti-EU movement was previously a small, fringe movement for the sort of right winger with separatist/libertarian ideology. Prior to the Brexit vote, they benefited from broader anti-immigration sentiment, islamophobia and general racism. Most people who voted Brexit weren't really bothered about the EU, they were against people of colour, Islam and refugees, and voted Brexit as a feck you to the establishment. They cut off their nose to spite their face.

So if Brexit hasn't fixed their problems, it's time to progress to stage 2. Going back to the snake oil metaphor, I think its similiar to a sales funnel. "You've bought the intermediate package, your results still aren't great. Of course, this is because you need the advanced course to address the REAL problem".
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Yes the "brexit wasn't done properly!" story covers a lot of different outcomes for people ranging from the nuanced "legislation was poorly worded and left uncertainty in a lot of key areas" through to the absolutely rabid..."why didn't they round up all the brown people and kick them out like we thought!"

Given the country was driven mad by the subject and no major party wants to touch it with a barge-pole, "Doing Brexit Properly" has to now be considered a code word for extremist action making "Rwanda emigration" look like a walk in the park.

It's no coincidence that Farage has gone for one of the few seaside constituencies that doesn't have any sort of fishing industry other than dangling your rod off the end of the pier. He knows that any commercial fisherman would be throwing something much smellier than banana milkshake over him!
 


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Sunak, what an absolute spoofer.

From the Guardian...

Planned opportunity for media to question Sunak 'cancelled'

The prime minister visited a walled garden at Auckland Castle, Bishop Auckland, on Saturday’s campaign trail.

According to the Press Association (PA), an opportunity for the media to ask questions of Rishi Sunak did not take place as was originally planned, likely following the fallout on Friday of his early return from D-day commemorations in Normandy.

Earlier, the BBC’s Tom Symonds who is reporting from the Conservative election bus, said he’d been told that Sunak would not be talking to “the national media, and there will be no interviews”.

Symonds wrote: “A possible ‘huddle’ – when the PM takes a few questions from reporters off camera – has been cancelled. We’ve been told this is due to time pressure.”
 
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Okay, so let's be absolutely fair. They are proposing something. Anything is an improvement. The timeframe is very disappointing. This is especially the case as a lot of Labour peers are in their sixties and seventies, so it is likely a Labour Government will have to increase the size of the Lords to replace current peers and reflect the likely majority in the Commons. I await to see what extra powers metro mayors may get, as well as a devolution of powers to the regions. If that happens, then that would be a more important constitutional change than the abolition of the Lords.
 
Trequarista10 said:
Yes I would agree with that, but think Brexiteers can still blame it on other factors, and for communities already downtrodden the differences for them are too subtle or the cause too ambiguous. Especially if they have lost faith in the other parties.

The irony for me is I think the Brexit vote really was a protest vote, but most Brexit voters weren't against the European Union, collective trade, European people living and working here. The Anti-EU movement was previously a small, fringe movement for the sort of right winger with separatist/libertarian ideology. Prior to the Brexit vote, they benefited from broader anti-immigration sentiment, islamophobia and general racism. Most people who voted Brexit weren't really bothered about the EU, they were against people of colour, Islam and refugees, and voted Brexit as a feck you to the establishment. They cut off their nose to spite their face.

So if Brexit hasn't fixed their problems, it's time to progress to stage 2. Going back to the snake oil metaphor, I think its similiar to a sales funnel. "You've bought the intermediate package, your results still aren't great. Of course, this is because you need the advanced course to address the REAL problem".
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The latest Opinium poll for the Observer shows Labour’s lead at 18 points, down two from a week ago. Labour is on 42% (-3), the Tories 24% (-1), Reform on 12 % (+1) following the decision by Nigel Farage to stand and lead the party, the Liberal Democrats 10% (+2) and the Greens 7% (+1). Most of the fieldwork was conducted before news broke late on Thursday that Sunak had left D-day commemorations in France early – a blunder for which he had a apologise amid fury from his MPs and party activists.

Opinium found that Labour now has commanding leads on all main policy areas, including those where it has not traditionally been strong, such as crime and the economy. When voters were asked who would run the economy better Labour, has a 10-point lead and on crime it is 12 points ahead.
 
Frosty said:
The latest Opinium poll for the Observer shows Labour’s lead at 18 points, down two from a week ago. Labour is on 42% (-3), the Tories 24% (-1), Reform on 12 % (+1) following the decision by Nigel Farage to stand and lead the party, the Liberal Democrats 10% (+2) and the Greens 7% (+1). Most of the fieldwork was conducted before news broke late on Thursday that Sunak had left D-day commemorations in France early – a blunder for which he had a apologise amid fury from his MPs and party activists.

Opinium found that Labour now has commanding leads on all main policy areas, including those where it has not traditionally been strong, such as crime and the economy. When voters were asked who would run the economy better Labour, has a 10-point lead and on crime it is 12 points ahead.
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You should put this in a quote and link the source.
 
Frosty said:
How is this possible? They've received over twice as much in donations as the rest put together!
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Probably told to stand down a bit as the powers that be have got Starmer on a leash.
 
the_cliff said:
To think these 2 clowns are the best we can do. We're fecked.
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Think how the USA feels.

Seriously though, you are absolutely right.

As for Farage. The man is a fecking moron. He recently gave a paid speech at Brixham Conservative Club. About 40 people attended. However, Brixham is the largest fishing port in England. He refused to answer questions from fishermen and refused to acknowledge that Brexit has fecked the farming and fishing industry. Despite him campaigning for Brexit on the fact Brexit would be a huge positive to both.

Fishing is a complex issue and anyone who understood this knew it wasn't Brexit that was the answer and it wasn't EU laws or regulations that was the problem. Nigel though, was so convincing the majority went with him. Now they just feel conned. He knows this, hence why he avoided speaking to anyone who didn't pay £50 to hear him speak.

He's just a fecking chancer. UKIP, Brexit, EU MP, now reform... It's all the same grift just with a different tagline. How people still don't see this is beyond me.
 
langster said:
Think how the USA feels.

Seriously though, you are absolutely right.

As for Farage. The man is a fecking moron. He recently gave a paid speech at Brixham Conservative Club. About 40 people attended. However, Brixham is the largest fishing port in England. He refused to answer questions from fishermen and refused to acknowledge that Brexit has fecked the farming and fishing industry. Despite him campaigning for Brexit on the fact Brexit would be a huge positive to both.

Fishing is a complex issue and anyone who understood this knew it wasn't Brexit that was the answer and it wasn't EU laws or regulations that was the problem. Nigel though, was so convincing the majority went with him. Now they just feel conned. He knows this, hence why he avoided speaking to anyone who didn't pay £50 to hear him speak.

He's just a fecking chancer. UKIP, Brexit, EU MP, now reform... It's all the same grift just with a different tagline. How people still don't see this is beyond me.
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Makes me so fecking angry the Cnut might win. Literally brain dead people thinking this guy might actually do anything good for them. I could only hope him winning leads to problems with his transparency over something or he gets into both. We need to be rid of this guy from British politics. He has done too much damage to the country.
 
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