General Election 2024

Who got your vote?

  • Labour

    Votes: 147 54.2%

  • Conservative

    Votes: 5 1.8%

  • Lib Dem

    Votes: 25 9.2%

  • Green

    Votes: 48 17.7%

  • Reform

    Votes: 11 4.1%

  • SNP

    Votes: 5 1.8%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Independent

    Votes: 8 3.0%

  • UK resident but not voting

    Votes: 18 6.6%

  • Spoiled my ballot

    Votes: 3 1.1%
  • Total voters
    271
  • Poll closed .
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Frosty said:
Yes, it would be good if we had examples to substantiate it. But I mean, it is hardly news that the British press doesn't do its job well at times. We have also been here before with Alastair Campbell's press operations under a Labour Government. Plus Labour have literally selected a journalist for a winnable seat, showing the very permeable boundary between our political and journalistic classes.
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How about Starmer letting the cat out of the bag on BBC Radio Scotland that GB Energy isn't an energy company but an investment vehicle, despite all the literature they're putting out (and Starmer at the ITV debate) calling it a publicly owned energy generation company. Weird how that lie has disappeared into the ether, whilst the country focuses on Sunak's £2k tax claim.

If you only relied on the press, that admission that he and his party are lying about what the policy is happened in another world.
 
11101 said:
You don't have the pre-politics career he had without being intelligent. Doesn't matter who you married. His downfall is that lack of ability to do or care about anything that can't be quantified that's common in the hedge fund world. I think it's why he's fixated on the £2k thing; it's something black and white he can focus on and he can't grasp the nuances of campaigning.
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I think he thought he was Mr Popular due to the furlough scheme even though it contained rampant fraud and he thought he was going to rescue the country from Boris and Truss. The political ineptitude that he has shown is quite something, what a wasted private education it seems. Really doesn’t have any political acumen whatsoever.
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
Things such horse shit. I worked at funds and an Investment company. I worked with plenty of millionaires that were dumb by most metrics.

Equating ‘good at math’ and applying that to a very narrow vocation and calling it ‘intelligent’ so broadly is really silly.

You dont need a well rounded set of skills. You can be truly shit at many things and still be a roaringly successful finance professional.

To me, he’s the very definition of an average intellect. He can’t think on his feet. He reacts poorly to complex question, he has zero empathy, seems to possess close to zero emotional intelligence.

There are of course life scenarios where I’d have him down as being in the top 1% of people to solve that problem. But 0.5% of problems would ever need that person.

I saw so much of it across years of my career. People like him flounder in the face of pretty basic real world stuff.
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Things starting to make sense now.

Intelligence just means being really good at learning things. Whether that's a specific field or being a generalist, both can be intelligence. And lets face it he had a very successful finance career AND managed to get himself to Prime Minister of the UK. He's not dumb.
 
11101 said:
Things starting to make sense now.

Intelligence just means being really good at learning things. Whether that's a specific field or being a generalist, both can be intelligence. And lets face it he had a very successful finance career AND managed to get himself to Prime Minister of the UK. He's not dumb.
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You’re mistaking privilege with intelligence and I have to say I’m not surprised
 
Nogbadthebad said:
The question I continue to ask, is if you are a secret pedophile, drug dealer or anyone with skeletons in the closet, why in th ehell would you sign up to run for parliament?

Because someone will find it, they vet you for crying out loud.
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People, especially in positions of relative power, who have used that power to insulate themselves and get away with murder, do not quite realise what proper media enquiries will unearth. If you keep getting away with stuff for years, denial or a feeling of invulnerability takes hold. Also, some people are really unaware of how bad their actions have been.
 
Unite union refuses to endorse Labour manifesto

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c722zkj9ly8o

Ironically, I imagine Starmer will see this as an electoral positive.

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Unite, Labour's biggest trade union backer, has refused to endorse the party's general election manifesto, saying it does not go far enough on protecting workers' rights and jobs in the oil and gas industry.

Union leaders were at a meeting on Friday to finalise the party's 2024 election platform ahead of its launch next week.

The BBC understands that at the meeting Unite announced they would not endorse Labour's plans.

There is now a question mark over whether Unite will fund the party at the general election. In 2019, Unite gave £3m to Labour's campaign.
 
Fully Fledged said:


Brilliant. Watch from 3 minutes in.
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For reference, the policy she references there is something the Government has been doing where they've been fully providing the payment for practices to employ physician associates (with a salary usually of between £40-£60k).

This means that economically, some practices have started to hire them instead (as they are hiring them completely for free) of fully qualified GPs.....and using them to see patients essentially unsupervised (or under the overall umbrella of a GP, who already has their own full caseload to deal with).

Its set up a slightly odd market and an unsustainable one as the Government won't pay these costs permanently.
 
11101 said:
AND managed to get himself to Prime Minister of the UK. He's not dumb.
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11101 said:
Things starting to make sense now.

Intelligence just means being really good at learning things. Whether that's a specific field or being a generalist, both can be intelligence. And lets face it he had a very successful finance career AND managed to get himself to Prime Minister of the UK. He's not dumb.
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He may not be, although he's shown nothing so far to back that up, but that's absolutely not what intelligence is. Knowledge ≠ Intelligence. Capacity to learn may be an indicator, but a crazily expensive education, combined with the instilled confidence that comes with such elevated societal positions prevents that being assessed. He certainly doesn't seem mentally agile or to be learning anything from what I can observe.
 
11101 said:
Things starting to make sense now.

Intelligence just means being really good at learning things. Whether that's a specific field or being a generalist, both can be intelligence. And lets face it he had a very successful finance career AND managed to get himself to Prime Minister of the UK. He's not dumb.
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Is Donald Trump intelligent?
 
I would love to know how the last 10 years of british politics will be analysed in the future. From 2015 to 2024 the supposedly serious, competent people from the party of order and tradition took a series of unbelievably poor decisions that ended with a group of fringe lunatics taking over and thrashing the place, hampering the entire country in the process. Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss and Sunak all played a big part with a strong supporting cast of allies, political rivals and sometimes both (Farage?). The current situation is just the day after where the place is already thrashed, most of those responsible already fecked off and -as the more clever are probably sitting this one out- the ones left are too incompetent to do the most basic things.

I asume most historians will put this into the geopolitical context together with the Cambridge Analytica files, but this feck up has been in a way exceptionally british. Maybe a little bit of Chaos with Ed Milly and the Band (great punk rock band name by the way) would have make things different.
 
Krakenzero said:
I would love to know how the last 10 years of british politics will be analysed in the future. From 2015 to 2024 the supposedly serious, competent people from the party of order and tradition took a series of unbelievably poor decisions that ended with a group of fringe lunatics taking over and thrashing the place, hampering the entire country in the process. Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss and Sunak all played a big part with a strong supporting cast of allies, political rivals and sometimes both (Farage?). The current situation is just the day after where the place is already thrashed, most of those responsible already fecked off and -as the more clever are probably sitting this one out- the ones left are too incompetent to do the most basic things.

I asume most historians will put this into the geopolitical context together with the Cambridge Analytica files, but this feck up has been in a way exceptionally british. Maybe a little bit of Chaos with Ed Milly and the Band (great punk rock band name by the way) would have make things different.
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It has been a Kleptocracy....stats don't matter....policy vaccum...brexit is the alpha and omega....a criminal gang disguised as the Tory party has been in power since Boris Johnson took over leadership.
 
Mordaunt going with an interesting approach here of constantly reminding everyone that the finances of both the country as a whole and her constituents in general are shot....
 
Rayner is being too straightforward and answering the question at face value. She needs to turn around the crime question to the Tory record which is abysmal
 
TheGame said:
Thought Rayner did ok. Farage getting exposed for an absolute cnut with nothing but shouting about immigration.
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Out of those three she was the better but was more impressed with the other 4.
Farage is the same as always , appealing to the xenophobes and racists, at least he was pushed back by the four smaller parties. He has absolutely nothing to offer and never has.
 
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