Compton22
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The fact he had the decision to not go in the first place and him and his advisors saw going there and leaving early as an acceptable compromise is... astonishing
2024 election summed up in one picture.
How the hell are you so blind to the political optics of this?
2024 election summed up in one picture.
have they checked the boat behind them for mosley?
Trigger warning please before you talk about Mosleys and WW2.
poor ozzie was 80 years ahead of his time. he’d have made a packet today with his views.
Surely an event like that is the slammiest dunk of all slam dunks as a Tory PM. How is it even possible to feck that up?
it really is the kind of error, piled on to the last 6 years or so, that makes me think the tories have either planned it to all end this way or labour have managed to infiltrate their hq and are sabotaging them from the inside.
d-day is a slam dunk for them, especially with their voter demographic and the spectre of farage and reform. it was even greatly timed for them. they could have swept all the 2k shite under the rug by saying d-day and our fallen and surviving heroes are the focus today. politics can wait for tomorrow. he could have looked like a prime minister next to the big leaders, and then by tomorrow everyone is talking about love island or southgate. it’s mind boggling.
I think Sunak's status as a "lame duck PM" following on from the "Lettuce Liz" debacle shows you that any "talented" political advisors checked out a long time ago - indeed many of them joined Labour setup over the last year.I have to say, I've never see anything so inept as this Tory campaign. We're only 2 weeks in, and the disasters keep coming! The D-Day thing... that is a custom made event for a politician to look statesmanlike. If you are fumbling things like that, then you shouldn't be a politician at all, let alone PM.
Makes you wonder if Tory insiders are setting up for a hard right takeover of the party post-election.
definitely feels like they want to pivot in a way they can’t whilst in power and want 4 years in opposition to restructure, whilst cashing in as much as possibly, and making it as shit as possible for labour to takeover. making it an easy ride back to power over the next 4-5 years.
With Brexit only just really starting to have a larger impact it will be apt if Farage was in the HoC to face the consequences and awkward questions.
With all three of the leading parties being pro-Brexit - one is amazed that they're not shouting from the rooftops how successful it is but instead are saying it's not been implemented properly. Ridiculous, they got exactly what they voted for and so much more to come.
Not sure that's true, near me there are quite a few who think it's either a 'slow coming to the boil' thing, or that until we get a new (Labour*) government the 'better things' (such as they believe) on internal matters will not happen at all. I've never found it a rational argument, but there are still many believers still out there.Hardly anyone mentions it, although no one believes it was a good idea now.
Which channel?Watching his pool interview, he is buggered.
Farage will be delighted if he gets into the HoC, probably part of his aims, after destroying the Tories, will be to urge that proportional representation be adopted. This will be to allow Reform, if they do decide to become a real party, to 'boo and cheer' from the sidelines in the HoC in increased numbers. Too small a presence to achieve anything themselves, but large enough to 'gum-up' the works on the endeavors of others.
I suspect none of the leading parties are going to deliberately raise Brexit issues and will obfuscate as much as they can, because none of them have 'clean hands'on this matter; whether it was during the referendum itself, or the aftermath in the HoC. Ironically, it will be Farage's very presence in the HoC that will illuminate issues arising from Brexit and he will simply say "it was never done properly".
Not sure that's true, near me there are quite a few who think it's either a 'slow coming to the boil' thing, or that until we get a new (Labour*) government the 'better things' (such as they believe) on internal matters will not happen at all. I've never found it a rational argument, but there are still many believers still out there.
(* this chimes with @Paul the Wolf view that Starmer (mistakenly in Paul's view) thinks he can fix things)
definitely feels like they want to pivot in a way they can’t whilst in power and want 4 years in opposition to restructure, whilst cashing in as much as possibly, and making it as shit as possible for labour to takeover. making it an easy ride back to power over the next 4-5 years.
Nobody is going to give an opposition party loads of money, there's no point. Nobody's "cashing in" when nobody has the power to deliver.
There's no easy ride back for the Tories. On almost every political axis, they are ruined. Post election will expose the reality of how fcked they really are. If Labour are smart, and remember what Blair taught them about this stuff, they can keep them in a coffin for the next 10 years.
Found it.
it really is the kind of error, piled on to the last 6 years or so, that makes me think the tories have either planned it to all end this way or labour have managed to infiltrate their hq and are sabotaging them from the inside.
d-day is a slam dunk for them, especially with their voter demographic and the spectre of farage and reform. it was even greatly timed for them. they could have swept all the 2k shite under the rug by saying d-day and our fallen and surviving heroes are the focus today. politics can wait for tomorrow. he could have looked like a prime minister next to the big leaders, and then by tomorrow everyone is talking about love island or southgate. it’s mind boggling.
Found it.
If it is anything like the other WW1 and WW2 commemoration events, then the itinerary would have been planned weeks or even months in advance.does anyone know if the itinerary of these events was set weeks ago or not? rishi didn’t clarify.