General Election 2024

Who got your vote?

  • Labour

    Votes: 147 54.2%
  • Conservative

    Votes: 5 1.8%
  • Lib Dem

    Votes: 25 9.2%
  • Green

    Votes: 48 17.7%
  • Reform

    Votes: 11 4.1%
  • SNP

    Votes: 5 1.8%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Independent

    Votes: 8 3.0%
  • UK resident but not voting

    Votes: 18 6.6%
  • Spoiled my ballot

    Votes: 3 1.1%

  • Total voters
    271
  • Poll closed .
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2024 election summed up in one picture.


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Surely an event like that is the slammiest dunk of all slam dunks as a Tory PM. How is it even possible to feck that up?
 
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He turned up the opportunity to have a picture of himself looking like Prime Minister on the world stage to film a prerecorded interview to defend his misleading statements about Labour. And he claims Labour are rattled.

How is Sunak so bad at this
 
I thought Reform would do a deal with the tories but actually it’s probably no longer in their interest when they can genuinely become the party of opposition now. Which is an awful and terrifying thought.

So curious to see how this turns out, Tory’s having a genuine alternative might break them.
 
We all assume the tories will have a "bad" election because it never goes cataclysmicly wrong for them. The right-wing press can usually cover for the worst moments or Labour run a dog shit candidate in a winnable election.

Everything they are doing, the average of polls we are seeing, is going to make 1997 seems like a good result for them. They are, without a doubt, on the tipping point of oblivion.
 
The sad thing is, the D-Day blunder will have Tories flocking to Reform
 
I have to say, I've never see anything so inept as this Tory campaign. We're only 2 weeks in, and the disasters keep coming! The D-Day thing... that is a custom made event for a politician to look statesmanlike. If you are fumbling things like that, then you shouldn't be a politician at all, let alone PM.
 


How the hell are you so blind to the political optics of this?


i was saying to the wife when we watched rishis 1st campaign video. i said “rishi i want to vote for you but you need to remember 3 things

brexit
respect are troops.
freeze the cost of carling an b&h
and no migrants

you do those things properly and were gonna rub along just fine.”

my wife nodded at me as she nos i no everything about politics.

but the pub have since put the price of carling up by 5p and he treats are troops like that? my vote if going to farage.

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have they checked the boat behind them for mosley?
 
it really is the kind of error, piled on to the last 6 years or so, that makes me think the tories have either planned it to all end this way or labour have managed to infiltrate their hq and are sabotaging them from the inside.

d-day is a slam dunk for them, especially with their voter demographic and the spectre of farage and reform. it was even greatly timed for them. they could have swept all the 2k shite under the rug by saying d-day and our fallen and surviving heroes are the focus today. politics can wait for tomorrow. he could have looked like a prime minister next to the big leaders, and then by tomorrow everyone is talking about love island or southgate. it’s mind boggling.
 
Surely an event like that is the slammiest dunk of all slam dunks as a Tory PM. How is it even possible to feck that up?

Quite easy when you have the 'death wish' coming true all around you (remember ultimately all PM's fail)... or 'Brutus' (or is it Mordaunt) is stood behind you with the knife out ready to strike.
 
Veterans minister Johnny Mercer has said he has found “faux outrage” from people he claimed were preventing veterans’ affairs from being improved “nauseating”.

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Given that veterans were prevented from voting by the Tories voter ID rules, Mercer must be referring to his own party.
 
"It was the slot that was offered" This was planned all along. He didn't even want to attend the thing. Crash and burn you incompetent fools.

 
it really is the kind of error, piled on to the last 6 years or so, that makes me think the tories have either planned it to all end this way or labour have managed to infiltrate their hq and are sabotaging them from the inside.

d-day is a slam dunk for them, especially with their voter demographic and the spectre of farage and reform. it was even greatly timed for them. they could have swept all the 2k shite under the rug by saying d-day and our fallen and surviving heroes are the focus today. politics can wait for tomorrow. he could have looked like a prime minister next to the big leaders, and then by tomorrow everyone is talking about love island or southgate. it’s mind boggling.

Makes you wonder if Tory insiders are setting up for a hard right takeover of the party post-election.
 
I have to say, I've never see anything so inept as this Tory campaign. We're only 2 weeks in, and the disasters keep coming! The D-Day thing... that is a custom made event for a politician to look statesmanlike. If you are fumbling things like that, then you shouldn't be a politician at all, let alone PM.
I think Sunak's status as a "lame duck PM" following on from the "Lettuce Liz" debacle shows you that any "talented" political advisors checked out a long time ago - indeed many of them joined Labour setup over the last year.

Cameron opened the door to the lunatic fringe, thinking he could beat them - May thought she could negotiate with them and they stabbed her in the back - Boris went "full retard" and put the crazies in power and told the normal ones to leave, leading to Liz Truss and Kwazy Kwasi shattering any lingering fiscal credibility.

The really sad thing here is that with the "parachuting" of tories into "safer" seats with single candidate lists there is talk of absolute apathy from conservative activists to fight in this election and we could end up with Tories in electoral oblivion - opening the door to the Reform party being the opposition. Much as I have hated the tory party all my life I used to consider it better than the lunatic right wing fringe parties.

I want the opposition to be far more centre-right than rabid right and if we get the conservative party becoming a relic like the old liberals then the country will be a lesser thing and on more of a knife-edge of extremism.
 
Makes you wonder if Tory insiders are setting up for a hard right takeover of the party post-election.

definitely feels like they want to pivot in a way they can’t whilst in power and want 4 years in opposition to restructure, whilst cashing in as much as possibly, and making it as shit as possible for labour to takeover. making it an easy ride back to power over the next 4-5 years.
 
definitely feels like they want to pivot in a way they can’t whilst in power and want 4 years in opposition to restructure, whilst cashing in as much as possibly, and making it as shit as possible for labour to takeover. making it an easy ride back to power over the next 4-5 years.

I don't think anyone wants to be out of power. They might be resigned to it now but I think this is all incompetence rather than a grand strategy.
 
With Brexit only just really starting to have a larger impact it will be apt if Farage was in the HoC to face the consequences and awkward questions.

With all three of the leading parties being pro-Brexit - one is amazed that they're not shouting from the rooftops how successful it is but instead are saying it's not been implemented properly. Ridiculous, they got exactly what they voted for and so much more to come.

Farage will be delighted if he gets into the HoC, probably part of his aims, after destroying the Tories, will be to urge that proportional representation be adopted. This will be to allow Reform, if they do decide to become a real party, to 'boo and cheer' from the sidelines in the HoC in increased numbers. Too small a presence to achieve anything themselves, but large enough to 'gum-up' the works on the endeavors of others.

I suspect none of the leading parties are going to deliberately raise Brexit issues and will obfuscate as much as they can, because none of them have 'clean hands'on this matter; whether it was during the referendum itself, or the aftermath in the HoC. Ironically, it will be Farage's very presence in the HoC that will illuminate issues arising from Brexit and he will simply say "it was never done properly".
Hardly anyone mentions it, although no one believes it was a good idea now.
Not sure that's true, near me there are quite a few who think it's either a 'slow coming to the boil' thing, or that until we get a new (Labour*) government the 'better things' (such as they believe) on internal matters will not happen at all. I've never found it a rational argument, but there are still many believers still out there.

(* this chimes with @Paul the Wolf view that Starmer (mistakenly in Paul's view) thinks he can fix things)
 
I’m not sure what he is really getting from this and why he is putting himself through it. The whole campaign is a disaster, Tories don’t want to volunteer. It’s just a mess and pathetic.
 
Farage will be delighted if he gets into the HoC, probably part of his aims, after destroying the Tories, will be to urge that proportional representation be adopted. This will be to allow Reform, if they do decide to become a real party, to 'boo and cheer' from the sidelines in the HoC in increased numbers. Too small a presence to achieve anything themselves, but large enough to 'gum-up' the works on the endeavors of others.

I suspect none of the leading parties are going to deliberately raise Brexit issues and will obfuscate as much as they can, because none of them have 'clean hands'on this matter; whether it was during the referendum itself, or the aftermath in the HoC. Ironically, it will be Farage's very presence in the HoC that will illuminate issues arising from Brexit and he will simply say "it was never done properly".

Not sure that's true, near me there are quite a few who think it's either a 'slow coming to the boil' thing, or that until we get a new (Labour*) government the 'better things' (such as they believe) on internal matters will not happen at all. I've never found it a rational argument, but there are still many believers still out there.

(* this chimes with @Paul the Wolf view that Starmer (mistakenly in Paul's view) thinks he can fix things)

Farage will be in the HoC very seldom. In the EU parliament, the only MEP who attended less than him was either in a coma in hospital or dead - can't remember which.
If politicians and the press start asking him awkward questions he won't like it and disappear. So far not the media nor other politicians have had the guts to do so.

Brexit has been done properly, the UK have left the EU. What happens(ed) after that proves what a stupid idea it was. Starmer can't fix things because he hasn't got the strength or willingness to do so. He's the wrong leader. Furthermore being so weak lets in Reform.
 
Sky News - I can't see a link online at the moment but I'm sure it will follow.
 
definitely feels like they want to pivot in a way they can’t whilst in power and want 4 years in opposition to restructure, whilst cashing in as much as possibly, and making it as shit as possible for labour to takeover. making it an easy ride back to power over the next 4-5 years.

Nobody is going to give an opposition party loads of money, there's no point. Nobody's "cashing in" when nobody has the power to deliver.

There's no easy ride back for the Tories. On almost every political axis, they are ruined. Post election will expose the reality of how fcked they really are. If Labour are smart, and remember what Blair taught them about this stuff, they can keep them in a coffin for the next 10 years.
 
Isn't it obvious that Sunak doesn't give a shit? He's off to California to wank over his cash in a few weeks.
 
Nobody is going to give an opposition party loads of money, there's no point. Nobody's "cashing in" when nobody has the power to deliver.

There's no easy ride back for the Tories. On almost every political axis, they are ruined. Post election will expose the reality of how fcked they really are. If Labour are smart, and remember what Blair taught them about this stuff, they can keep them in a coffin for the next 10 years.

agreed. they’ve been cashing in since the start of covid and leeching as much money and favours owed as they can now, to see them through the next 4 years whilst out of office.

that should be the case but the world isn’t exactly a shining place of growth and industry at the moment. it’s not going to be an easy ride for labour. plenty of stuff won’t go their way, which will be totally out of their control. and we’ve seen with brexit how stupid people can be with the promise of slogans that magically make everything better. we’ve seen with bojo, with trump, how short people’s memories are. murdoch has 4 years to position the tories as the only ones that can fix the mess, whilst they pander to the nutjobs and those with only a passing interest in trying to work everything out.
 
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it really is the kind of error, piled on to the last 6 years or so, that makes me think the tories have either planned it to all end this way or labour have managed to infiltrate their hq and are sabotaging them from the inside.

d-day is a slam dunk for them, especially with their voter demographic and the spectre of farage and reform. it was even greatly timed for them. they could have swept all the 2k shite under the rug by saying d-day and our fallen and surviving heroes are the focus today. politics can wait for tomorrow. he could have looked like a prime minister next to the big leaders, and then by tomorrow everyone is talking about love island or southgate. it’s mind boggling.

If they've organised this properly they will have timed the election for the week after we've been beaten by Slovenia 3-0 to be dumped out of the Euros.
 
Meanwhile, councillors are tackling the major issues in Halifax. Apparently a council's £2k catering budget going vegan is 'putting local farming communities at risk', according to the Tory parliamentary candidate.


Vegan meals row: Calderdale Council won't be 'sneaking into people’s houses to steal away their wafer-thin ham' as it moves forward with taking pork pies off the menu

https://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/ne...KGoTVt0hVYsyw4ESzHmnsMaTJN_hLPD61fmjpBuf3mdOp
 
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