General Election 2024

[Phil Jones Face]

It's amazing. The Tories have lurched and pandered to a very select minority of the electorate who fantasise and replay these events in their heads on a daily basis.. then Sunak shits on them.

They can't even do the basics right.

 

[Vidyoyo]

does anyone know if the itinerary of these events was set weeks ago or not? rishi didn’t clarify.

I believe the itinerary of those events was set weeks ago before the general election campaign even began

 

[Superden]

weve gone from nothing to see here (nothing on the major news channels yday, even though clearly he wasnt there), to blame the advisers, to a non-apology apology, to lets not play politics, to nothing to see move on. Its like the tory partygate response over several months squeezed into one morning.

thh daily mail now dont even have a major piece on it on their website (its all about a tax dodging billionaire's wedding, gosh how great do our actual overlords look!)

 

[V.O.]

It's amazing. The Tories have lurched and pandered to a very select minority of the electorate who fantasise and replay these events in their heads on a daily basis.. then Sunak shits on them.

They can't even do the basics right.

Yeah, it's hard to believe they've managed to feck that up. It's flagshagging 101.

It's about the only thing you'd expect a Tory politician to be able to do even if they're incapable of anything else.

 

[nickm]

agreed. they’ve been cashing in since the start of covid and leeching as much money and favours owed as they can now, to see them through the next 4 years whilst out of office.

that should be the case but the world isn’t exactly a shining place of growth and industry at the moment. it’s not going to be an easy ride for labour. plenty of stuff won’t go their way, which will be totally out of their control. and we’ve seen with brexit how stupid people can be with the promise of slogans that magically make everything better. we’ve seen with bojo, with trump, how short people’s memories are. murdoch has 4 years to position the tories as the only ones that can fix the mess, whilst they pander to the nutjobs and those with only a passing interest in trying to work everything out.

I agree, Labour is going to have a tough time, and the electorate is highly volatile. But I think the Tories, on their own fundamentals, are in a far worse position than they were when Blair got into power. They barely have a functioning organisation, talent, a voter base outside of the over 65s, any widespread representation at all, a coherent political philosophy or even a connection to reality. On the asset side, they have the papers and some rich people - that's it. They are becoming a niche party/a pressure group.

 

[Eplel]

The funniest thing is that even if Sunak's apology was sincere, nobody is going to believe it is, after he spent the last 3 days incessantly lying.

 

[Nogbadthebad]

As I said.

No one will convince me this is anything but deliberate. Like announcing the election in the pouring rain outside when they have a broadcast room boris spent 2 million quid on in the building, and even refusing to use a brolly for him, leaving teh D Day stuff early isn't just a mistake. It actively goes against common sense. You have to physically force yourself to do something that stupid.

He wants to lose as badly as possible. It may be some tory strategy, or it could be that he really, really hates the rest fo the tories as much as i do, and as he is off to california, just wants to burn the entire thing to the ground and go off to enjoy his wife's money.

 

[Frosty]

Sky News have been showing a clip of an interview with a 98-year-old veteran in Normandy today about yesterday’s events. Ken Hay told viewers “What can you say? They are politicians. They are politicians”.

Asked about Sunak leaving early when Biden, Macron and Scholz all stayed, he observed that Rishi Sunak had departed because “he’s electioneering”.

Hay continued:

I think he let’s the country down, you know. It’s not representation of how we’re trying to weld things together to keep the peace. Blimey it’s bad enough with what Putin’s doing. And the Chinese possibly doing it, not necessarily in warfare but in other forms. What are we doing? We bail out. Let them get on with it. Because I want to stand in the election. I want my seat back.

 

[WPMUFC]

There's always a quote.

 

[Berbasbullet]

does anyone know if the itinerary of these events was set weeks ago or not? rishi didn’t clarify.

Was about to post this.

 

[TheGame]

 

[nickm]

As I said.

No one will convince me this is anything but deliberate. Like announcing the election in the pouring rain outside when they have a broadcast room boris spent 2 million quid on in the building, and even refusing to use a brolly for him, leaving teh D Day stuff early isn't just a mistake. It actively goes against common sense. You have to physically force yourself to do something that stupid.

He wants to lose as badly as possible. It may be some tory strategy, or it could be that he really, really hates the rest fo the tories as much as i do, and as he is off to california, just wants to burn the entire thing to the ground and go off to enjoy his wife's money.

I think it's more likely that he lacks vision. He's a small, tactical man and he lacks the ability to tell bigger stories about his country and himself. D-day was a chance to do that but because he lacks the vision to see the bigger picture, he just saw the tactical opportunity to keep bashing Labour on the £2k tax thing. He simply lacks the skills you need a PM and party leader to have.

 

[nickm]

What are we doing? We bail out. Let them get on with it. Because I want to stand in the election. I want my seat back.

Ouch. He's right.

 

[buchansleftleg]

does anyone know if the itinerary of these events was set weeks ago or not? rishi didn’t clarify.

There are rumours on twitter that he originally tried to dip out of attending the thing altogether...if that's true then there is electoral dynamite of an email / WhatsApp message out there to be leaked to the press. Here's hoping they do a "Boris" and try and blame it on a staffling who then leaks it to create a bigger shitstorm!

 

[TheGame]

 

[Pexbo]

I think it's more likely that he lacks vision. He's a small, tactical man and he lacks the ability to tell bigger stories about his country and himself. D-day was a chance to do that but because he lacks the vision to see the bigger picture, he just saw the tactical opportunity to keep bashing Labour on the £2k tax thing. He simple lacks the skills you need a PM and party leader to have.

He’s what you get when you take a very very average individual and put them through the best schooling money can buy and surround them in a world of privilege. Very little actual intelligence, emotional intelligence non-existent and zero street smarts.

He did well when he had no scrutiny and the media getting behind him because it was the pandemic and there was a strong “rally behind each other” attitude anyway. Now he’s actually got to deal with situations out of his control, he’s melting.

 

[Drainy]

As I said.

No one will convince me this is anything but deliberate. Like announcing the election in the pouring rain outside when they have a broadcast room boris spent 2 million quid on in the building, and even refusing to use a brolly for him, leaving teh D Day stuff early isn't just a mistake. It actively goes against common sense. You have to physically force yourself to do something that stupid.

He wants to lose as badly as possible. It may be some tory strategy, or it could be that he really, really hates the rest fo the tories as much as i do, and as he is off to california, just wants to burn the entire thing to the ground and go off to enjoy his wife's money.

Or he's surrounded himself with people who want to humiliate him. Like Boris allies seeking revenge for the 'backstab'

 

[Pexbo]

This is a bit silly, fish come from the sea, it’s literally a seaside treat. He’s obviously not claiming to be sitting by the sea having a treat is he?

 

[nickm]

He’s what you get when you take a very very average individual and put them through the best schooling money can buy and surround them in a world of privilege. Very little actual intelligence, emotional intelligence non-existent and zero street smarts.

He did well when he had no scrutiny and the media getting behind him because it was the pandemic and there was a strong “rally behind each other” attitude anyway. Now he’s actually got to deal with situations out of his control, he’s melting.

There is a story that when he became chancellor, everyone was impressed because he could do the spreadsheet analysis himself. But that's not what you want in a chancellor. I don't think he is average, I think he is probably technically highly proficient in a narrow sense, but the higher you rise, the less those skills matter. The skills he really needs, he completely lacks. (Also worth noting he is quite politically inexperienced and hasn't spent much time in the trenches, developing those street smarts etc).

 

[The Boy]

He’s what you get when you take a very very average individual and put them through the best schooling money can buy and surround them in a world of privilege. Very little actual intelligence, emotional intelligence non-existent and zero street smarts.

He did well when he had no scrutiny and the media getting behind him because it was the pandemic and there was a strong “rally behind each other” attitude anyway. Now he’s actually got to deal with situations out of his control, he’s melting.

With his utter ineptitude at campaigning, he is giving Theresa May a run for her money!

 

[TheGame]

This is a bit silly, fish come from the sea, it’s literally a seaside treat. He’s obviously not claiming to be sitting by the sea having a treat is he?

Who cares, he’s a fecking Cnut representing a racist cesspit of a party.

 

[phonics_tid]

Found it.

He’s really shit isn’t he?

Might be a bit of an outlandish wish but I pray for the day that people in these kinds of positions are actually qualified and not just opportunistic wankers.

 

[UnrelatedPsuedo]

This is a bit silly, fish come from the sea, it’s literally a seaside treat. He’s obviously not claiming to be sitting by the sea having a treat is he?

I’ve never heard anyone eat seafood in the middle of a City and called it a ‘seaside treat’. Nor can I imagine anyone doing it.

The tweet is lazy and boring. But the man is a dickhead and should get dunked on at every opportunity.

 

[RUUD_10_LEGEND]

Found it.

6 minutes of saying the same thing over and over again to every question. He comes across as a robot with zero compassion

 

[The Boy]

It's a bit of an eye opener that he couldn't even stop his own Channel crossing.

 

[11101]

He’s what you get when you take a very very average individual and put them through the best schooling money can buy and surround them in a world of privilege. Very little actual intelligence, emotional intelligence non-existent and zero street smarts.

He did well when he had no scrutiny and the media getting behind him because it was the pandemic and there was a strong “rally behind each other” attitude anyway. Now he’s actually got to deal with situations out of his control, he’s melting.

You don't have the pre-politics career he had without being intelligent. Doesn't matter who you married. His downfall is that lack of ability to do or care about anything that can't be quantified that's common in the hedge fund world. I think it's why he's fixated on the £2k thing; it's something black and white he can focus on and he can't grasp the nuances of campaigning.

 

[The Corinthian]

 

[Jippy]

Easy accusation to chuck out, but can he actually stand it up?
The Sun, Tel, DM, and the Times to a lesser extent, have been shitting on Labour and Starmer daily, while parrotting every Tory attack line, like the £2k thing.

 

[UnrelatedPsuedo]

You don't have the pre-politics career he had without being intelligent. Doesn't matter who you married. His downfall is that lack of ability to do or care about anything that can't be quantified that's common in the hedge fund world. I think it's why he's fixated on the £2k thing; it's something black and white he can focus on and he can't grasp the nuances of campaigning.

Things such horse shit. I worked at funds and an Investment company. I worked with plenty of millionaires that were dumb by most metrics.

Equating ‘good at math’ and applying that to a very narrow vocation and calling it ‘intelligent’ so broadly is really silly.

You dont need a well rounded set of skills. You can be truly shit at many things and still be a roaringly successful finance professional.

To me, he’s the very definition of an average intellect. He can’t think on his feet. He reacts poorly to complex question, he has zero empathy, seems to possess close to zero emotional intelligence.

There are of course life scenarios where I’d have him down as being in the top 1% of people to solve that problem. But 0.5% of problems would ever need that person.

I saw so much of it across years of my career. People like him flounder in the face of pretty basic real world stuff.

 

[DanH]

Easy accusation to chuck out, but can he actually stand it up?
The Sun, Tel, DM, and the Times to a lesser extent, have been shitting on Labour and Starmer daily, while parrotting every Tory attack line, like the £2k thing.

Yeah, Rayner and the council house, Diane Abbott, Faiza Shaheen stories speak otherwise.

 

[TheGame]

Easy accusation to chuck out, but can he actually stand it up?
The Sun, Tel, DM, and the Times to a lesser extent, have been shitting on Labour and Starmer daily, while parrotting every Tory attack line, like the £2k thing.

Exactly, that tweet is no where near true.

 

[TheGame]

 

[Jippy]

The Sunak story is even making headlines in Southeast Asia

UK's Sunak apologises for skipping main D-Day event
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/wor...-d-day-commemorations-draws-criticism-4394896

 

[Frosty]

Exactly, that tweet is no where near true.

Yes, it would be good if we had examples to substantiate it. But I mean, it is hardly news that the British press doesn't do its job well at times. We have also been here before with Alastair Campbell's press operations under a Labour Government. Plus Labour have literally selected a journalist for a winnable seat, showing the very permeable boundary between our political and journalistic classes.

 

[Buster15]

I agree, Labour is going to have a tough time, and the electorate is highly volatile. But I think the Tories, on their own fundamentals, are in a far worse position than they were when Blair got into power. They barely have a functioning organisation, talent, a voter base outside of the over 65s, any widespread representation at all, a coherent political philosophy or even a connection to reality. On the asset side, they have the papers and some rich people - that's it. They are becoming a niche party/a pressure group.

That may seem like it now.
But we have to bear in mind that politics is highly cyclical. You should never write off the Tories and they are highly capable of reinventing themselves. Coupled with the right wing press.
However, lowering the voting age to 16, which is quite necessary and correct will further damage them (good).
Much depends on the development of Reform.

I detest them but don't underestimate them.
They will be back.

 

[Maticmaker]

This is a bit silly, fish come from the sea, it’s literally a seaside treat. He’s obviously not claiming to be sitting by the sea having a treat is he?

Yes, just someone wanting to be seen as a smart a**e... and coming across as dumb a**e

When I was a kid fish and chips was our Friday night 'chippy tea' treat for years in our house. Mum and Dad got paid (in something called 'Cash') and they emptied their pay packets and pooled their money on the kitchen table. They put aside: the rent money, the money for stocking up on food, the money for the Co-op Life insurance man (who called later)... then I was sent off with the 'chippy' money to get the battered cod and chips (sometime mushy peas as well).

Of course in those days we didn't know that fish had 'fingers'

 

[Fergies Gum]

Sunak should just come out and say his wife was not interested in the events and that's why he wanted to come back earlier. Its well known she hates being at these events and thinks they are beneath her "status". She even refused to be with Sunak when he was appointed PM and gave that speech at Downing Street as she was "busy".

 

[Buster15]

Found it.

Boris Sunak is like a broken record. Just keeps repeating the same old thing as if no one heard it the first time.
It is a standard tactic. Keep talking because that way, you are minimising the opportunity for anyone else to say something.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

That may seem like it now.
But we have to bear in mind that politics is highly cyclical. You should never write off the Tories and they are highly capable of reinventing themselves. Coupled with the right wing press.
However, lowering the voting age to 16, which is quite necessary and correct will further damage them (good).
Much depends on the development of Reform.

I detest them but don't underestimate them.
They will be back.

In terms of polling since the Liz Truss debacle polling for the Tories has plumetted. The problem is that the those polled are not swaying towards Labour as Labour's polling has also fallen but at a slower rate. In terms of seats it is helping Labour this time but only because the right is splitting between the Tories and Reform not because they suddenly like Labour.

 

[TwoSheds]

You don't have the pre-politics career he had without being intelligent. Doesn't matter who you married. His downfall is that lack of ability to do or care about anything that can't be quantified that's common in the hedge fund world. I think it's why he's fixated on the £2k thing; it's something black and white he can focus on and he can't grasp the nuances of campaigning.

If you can't grasp the majority of things in life, perhaps that makes you unintelligent.