General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%
  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%

  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
Are there any LGBT Conservative MPs?

Wait yes, Ruth Davidson

Could she derail this

:lol:
She surely can't be happy with it. Expect her to just make no comment at all. She has made a big play for the Orange vote in Scotland. Just goes to show you should be careful what you wish for.
 
She surely can't be happy with it. Expect her to just make no comment at all. She has made a big play for the Orange vote in Scotland. Just goes to show you should be careful what you wish for.

This did amuse me a little.

 
Davidson strikes me as the type savvy enough to understand compromise in government. I doubt she'll protest this. More likely she waits in the shadows until the next election.
 
Davidson strikes me as the type savvy enough to understand compromise in government. I doubt she'll protest this. More likely she waits in the shadows until the next election.

Aye she's very savvy which is why she'll be careful becoming condemning it at all, but I don't imagine she'll be particularly happy.
 
Rape Clause Ruth is not only a gay woman but marrying a Catholic. Double whammy.

Imagine the absolute seethe and confusion of bigoted Tories up north right now who are simultaneously delighted at their success and appalled with Davidson's personal life.:lol:
 
At least 7 of them will stand up for the LGBT community right?
Well, no. Especially considering it's not a formal coalition. A Conservative MP is not going to vote against a Conservative government just because some people also voting for it have dodgy views on LGBT issues.

They share a party with some people like that after all.
 
Imagine the absolute seethe and confusion of bigoted Tories up north right now who are simultaneously delighted at their success and appalled with Davidson's personal life.:lol:

Well, no. Especially considering it's not a formal coalition. A Conservative MP is not going to vote against a Conservative government just because some people also voting for it have dodgy views on LGBT issues.
Mmm, you might be right. Argh, what a poo
 
Davidson strikes me as the type savvy enough to understand compromise in government. I doubt she'll protest this. More likely she waits in the shadows until the next election.

Aye she's very savvy which is why she'll be careful becoming condemning it at all, but I don't imagine she'll be particularly happy.

http://www.scottishconservatives.com/2016/08/ruth-davidson-keynote-speech-at-belfast-pride-event/

She posted this on Twitter earlier today.
 
Well, no. Especially considering it's not a formal coalition. A Conservative MP is not going to vote against a Conservative government just because some people also voting for it have dodgy views on LGBT issues.

They share a party with some people like that after all.
Exactly, half of Conservative MPs voted against equal marriage so it's not like the DUP are hugely out of keeping with their own right.
 
It's a really weird day after feeling.

Basically....everybody lost:

May lost serious face within her own party, lost the majority and lost any respect from the eu.

Corbyn did remarkably well but still lost the election.

Rape clause Ruth came out really well and then got rewarded by an allience with a party who hate her sexuality and her wife.

The nation as a whole lost because we are essentially inviting the DUP - who in my view are essentially bigotted twats into the running of the country.

And Ireland could potentially lose because there could be disruptions to the peace. Although this could be a stretch of my imagination, time will tell.

Sturgeon lost because indyref2 is dead, wtf else is her party going to campaign on.

Lib dems are lib dems, lets face it, nobody cares.

Ukip just lost.
 
What borrowing? The spending was wholly funded by tax generation and re-allocation as was spelt out in tedious detail in the manifesto.

The IFS took apart Labour's funding plans. Labour says it can raise £49bn a year through tax rises - £52bn minus £3bn of slack.

The think tank ditched £11bn of the £52bn on the grounds that the party has overestimated what it will get from taxing the rich and hitting tax avoidance (see below). It then warned that the remaining £41bn was "very generous" given that its other tax-raising measures were doing a lot of fiscal heavy lifting, and that corporation tax rises wouldn't deliver the claimed savings beyond 2022.

Labour's flagship tax measure is to hit the highest earners with an income tax rise, so as to protect everyone else. Tax will be raised on everyone earning more than £80,000 a year.

Not so fast, says the IFS. While Labour is planning to raise £6.4bn a year from these measures, the think tank warned that just a low level of "responsiveness" - higher earners changing their behaviour, such as by moving abroad - would reduce this to £4.5bn a year. Medium responsiveness would cut it to £2.5bn, and high responsiveness would slash it all the way down - rather improbably - to nothing.

Left wingers have a habit of ascribing heroic new funding streams to clamping down on tax avoidance. Labour's manifesto pledges to raise £8.8bn from hitting tax avoiders and evaders.

The IFS warned "at least half of that is unlikely to materialise".

The party has double counted £2.5bn in extra revenue, while the £1.6bn the offshore company levy is expected to raise won't materialise at all as people respond by ditching those ownership structures, said the think tank.

Anyone who thinks the richest in our society can be taxed to a greater degree than they already are, which is the highest degree of total tax revenues (as a numver and a %) in modern hisotry... Is a fantasist.
 
May being pillored on Question Time. We all knew it, but she's dead. She's not respected in the eyes of the public at all now.
 
See post above.

Quote fail I see. feck it.

Basically, I know what the IFS said and see no reason to disagree with them. That wasn't the point I was making, more than original post I was replying cited debt increase as his reason to not vote Corbyn. Pointed out they had costed (albeit debatably to the tune of about 30%).
 
May being pillored on Question Time. We all knew it, but she's dead. She's not respected in the eyes of the public at all now.

Hated by her party, and regarded as a bit of a weak joke by her opponents and the country as a whole. The Tories may be shiting it.
 
i think the people saying May can't resign right now becuase it would cause even more chaos are probably and unfortunately right.
 
Should be a rerun in Newcastle Under Lyme.

The winner only won by 30 votes and the area had issues with people not being able to vote.
 
Alistair Campbell's very effective whatever you think of him.
 
Surprised no one's called the government a coalition of May-os yet.
 
how do you not have a hard border in northern Ireland if you end free movement?
How can you want a hard Brexit and a soft border? bizzare
 
I'm half-expecting Grayling to crack and just go on a massive tirade against May.
 
Grayling doesn't believe in hard and soft Brexit but does open and closed brexit :lol: