Is this coalition sustainable in anyway? surely this is down for another vote after the brexit negotiations?
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Drop the conspiracy nonsense.
The DUP will have been promised something significant for NI and they will back the Tories come what May. The two parties see eye to eye on many issues anyway, including Brexit.
I've never loved this country more.
Of course. I'm Glaswegian too. Should've been obvious.Religion of course, come on @Fingeredmouse, get with the program
It's not nonsense. Google Pilger for a start.
But a majority of 2 requires essentially every MP to follow the whip in every single vote and as a few people mentioned (i have no idea about this whatsoever) there seems to be some variation in what the DUP votes count for with regards to english laws? or have i completely misinterpreted that. And i cant imagine every elected tory MP is down with some of the DUP's questionable social policies?
OK, it's fringe stuff. I know Pilger, he makes alternative history films. His work lacks context and drives a preformed agenda.
The question is, do any of the potential tory leaders want to choose now to try their luck. I don't think Boris will want to wait, he'll be trying to get the numbers as we speak.
Is there a difference between the DUPs links to loyalist paramilitaries and Sinn Fein's to the IRA? Yes there is, but also bare in mind that the Provisional IRA has decommissioned and essentially disbanded whereas most of the equivalent loyalist paramilitaries have not. So although Sinn Feins links are certainly more deep with paramilitarism it could be argued that the DUPs is more current given Fosters recent meetings with the leadership of the UDA and the scandal involving another UDA leader Dee Stitt employed by and DUP affiliated charity.
i think if they see it out till then end of the brexit negotiations they will probably see out the term.
Why do people continue to vote Sinn Fein in these elections, when they know they will never ever take up their seats, Northern Ireland gonna Northern Ireland?
What I'd like to believe is that their reign is a hangover from the peace agreement, the electorate polarized from the two relatively moderate parties on both sides to the hardline. but after a decade and change the UUP are never coming back and they have their own problems (also terrorist linked if you go by the standard of today).
Its the sad state of affairs of Northern Irish politics, I had hoped people like the Alliance party were gaining ground of the "unionist" voting areas but they shot themselves in the foot over a flag.
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They should do. I don't know how that would work exactly, but they should do. If not now, then when? In the middle of brexit?
There is a huge middle ground for them to take
I wonder if Mays recent interview is actually an indicator that they may change their approach and call an election now
It's a protest, but also hinders the DUP.
EVEL means this isn't sustainable in any way - expecially since Tories themselves propped up by 13 seats in Scotland. Would result in only 300 or so voting on English laws, they won't pass?
I am pretty happy today overall.
Oh god watching her speech now, fecking ridiculous how she continues to treat people as chumps
Seriously don't waste your energy.
I'm a liberal unionist and have literally no one to vote for (that would win). It's just tribal plain and simple. DUP stand against Sinn Fein and a United Ireland - for many, that's enough regardless of the rest of their policies. It is depressing if you focus on it too long.
They have a majority of English MPs.
Only requires a majority of english seats, which they have easily.
I guess the big problems facing NI are nothing like the problems facing Britain.
Unionists are constantly fighting (figuratively) to stop their country being ripped in two. Republicans are fighting (figuratively) to stop a border being put up between them and the south.
Religion, poverty, etc
They wont though unfortunately
Simplistic view but hard to argue with.
Daily Mail are totally gunning for May.
Ive got to give Sturgeon credit for admitting that the threat of a second referendum on Scottish independence cost her party votes.
Most politicians would just either ignore the question or twist the facts to suit them.
Fair play!
Most politicians would just either ignore the question or twist the facts to suit them.
Fair play!
That is superb
I wasted my vote too, but at least my person was just unlikely to win, not win and not bother to turn up, how has it remotely hindered the DUP ? only when the margin is this small would it even matter.
Okay, that's my new saddest irony.
Northern Ireland and Scotland voted remain. Its arguably more important for Northern Ireland than for Scotland
Scotland returned 39 pro-eu candidates. Northern Ireland, 0.
Northern Ireland and Scotland voted remain. Its arguably more important for Northern Ireland than for Scotland
Scotland returned 39 pro-eu candidates. Northern Ireland, 0.
That is superb
I saw it on b3ta, some real good stuff there.
Name me three decent investigative journalists that write for the mainstream media (owned by billionaires enjoying offshore tax-haven status) - i.e. not "fringe-stuff". Decent journalism has been forced to the fringe but is therefore less constrained and, often, superior. That's the world we live in these days. It's really not fair to denigrate investigative journalism as "fringe-stuff" anymore.
Edit: This chap also has some decent contributions to make...
Edit 2: As does...
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Loyalist paramilitaries 'decommissioned' too. Though they all still have plenty of guns. The IRA included.
Campbell's came out supporting Corbyn during the campaign, I think that's already happened. Jeremy has a full mandate to lead and realign the party now, I'd expect people are going to come round to his wing of the party, hopefully meaning a much improved front bench for the shadow cabinet.
Cameron ruined his prime ministership by calling for a referendum. May ruined her prime ministership by calling for the election. Who next?
Let's not get carried away, I think Jez is still going to be shit at PMQs.
Thats going to be so depressing after this. One of May or Corbyn has to goLet's not get carried away, I think Jez is still going to be shit at PMQs.
in fairness while he use to get destroyed by cameron, he's been on top most weeks since May took overLet's not get carried away, I think Jez is still going to be shit at PMQs.